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Advice for a Coliseum newbie.

Hey folks, I'm flying in to Oakland on business on the 29th, zipping out to Petaluma for a few days, and coming back to town on the 31st, just in time for the Oakland exhibition game against the San Francisco Steroid Abusers on the 1st.

I've decided to stick around for a day or two after that and take in the home opener against the Yankees on the 3rd (to my surprise there were still tickets available, albeit in the outfield plaza, but hey - I can at least yell at Sheffield from there).

My questions, however, are now many.

First, before I book my ticket to the exhibition game, where the heck should I sit? I wouldn't say money is no object, but being as it'll be my first time at the Col, I figure I should get as good as seat as I can. That said, if there's a group of ANers elsewhere that are dead keen to buy an Australian Canadian stadium noob a beer, I'm open to other suggestions.

Second, should I book online or buy one on the day? MLB charges a couple of bucks for booking fees, six more for handling fees, then a couple more for the luxury of printing your own tickets (but at least that's better than the $15 it costs to have them mailed out!), all of which makes a $14 ticket actually cost $26. If there's likely to be empty seats on the day I'll buy at the gate and curse Ticketmaster's name with a smile, but if it gets tight... What say you?

Third question - the stadium is three miles from the airport, which is likely where I'll be penned up in some HoJo/Motel 6 impersonation, and from memory the area around the stadium isn't particulary pleasant (correct me if I'm wrong). Is there a spot nearby, that'll give me cheap digs and plenty of Oaktown cultcha that I should choose over the 'oh look, another highway/plane landing/surly bellclerk' offerings of the airport?

Last question: Is it worth heading out to SF on the 2nd for the away Oakland/SF exhibition game, considering I'm relying on cabs and public transport, or should I just let it go and avoid having the 'retarded' of those people rub off on me?

Thanks guys. Any advice will be welcomed, and maybe even heeded.

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Ever been to an A's exhibition?
This time for sure!
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I live too far, but I damn straight will go if and when matter transporters become commercially available.
4 votes
Yes
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No
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Not sure if there'll be tickets on the day of (given the closed 3rd deck and all) at the Coliseum, though I would guess there will be.

But if you have the opportunity, I'd highly reccomend going to see the Giants stadium.  One of the best baseball memories I have is seeing Byrnes hit a cycle over there a few years ago.

It's a beautiful park, regardless of who calls is home.  The BART can get you close enough for a nice 15-20 min. walk down the Embarcadero to the park. Or you can catch a street car, if you don't want to walk.

I love the Coliseum for the fans, but Telecom Park accross the bay has got to be the finest new era park in baseball.

Regardless, enjoy your games.  I can't wait for that Yanks series.  Less than a month now...

by booya on Mar 7, 2006 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

er...
That'd be recommend, and across.

I hate misspelling.  And being a hypocrite even more.

by booya on Mar 7, 2006 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sit in 317!
Oh wait, never mind, that's closed now :-).  What you need to know is that the section ending in 17 is behind home plate, ending 01 is extreme RF, and ending in 34 is extreme LF.  I haven't checked the new pricing structure, but once you get to 09/24 or so, they start getting cheaper.  So being in 09 or lower, as close to 09 as possible, is good.

For the exhibition, you're probably OK with day-of-game seating, although even Coliseum vets probably aren't sure how scarce the upper deck closure will make walk up tickets yet.  

For hotels, you're right, it's not a nice area.  There is a Courtyard (probably listed as the Airport one) that's nearby, and they were nice enough to give me a ride to the game in their shuttle; I took a cab back.  You have immediate access to the BART there, so another option is to take it to the 12th St/Downtown Oakland station and stay there.  There are a few Marriott owned hotels there, and a Best Western about a nine-block walk at the corner of Broadway and 3rd, which might have pretty reasonable prices.  There will be more to do around there.

"All the years I lived in the Bay Area, just hearing Bill's voice alone, that was the signal that baseball was here again."--Ken Korach.

by jeepers on Mar 7, 2006 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

answers
  1. The bleachers are always fun for real games, but I don't know how rockin' they'd be for an exhibition (maybe ask saint). I'd probably go for the best available, which would be lower level, either behind the plate or down one of the lines a little bit, depending on your preferences.
  2. I don't imagine an exhibition would sell out, even against the Giants. In fact, since the game is included in season ticket packages, you can probably find someone unloading decent tickets cheap, either at the game or ahead of time on craigslist.
  3. Can't really help you.
  4. Sure. As booya says, it's a beautiful park and easy to get to. Take BART to Montgomery St., then walk 15-20 minutes down 2nd St. to the stadium. Be sure to stop in at the 21st Amendment for a beer on the way. You may want to get a ticket in advance for this one, though, as <Telephone Company> Park tends to sell out, and it will probably cost you a bit more.
As a tribute to Jimi Hendrix, I'm going to light my tapir on fire and choke on my own vomit. - monkeyball

by andeux on Mar 7, 2006 5:34 PM PST reply actions  

wilkommen! bienvenue!
1 and 2 have been adequately answered above.

As for #3, BART runs a shuttle to/from OAK airport that costs $2 one way. If you're going to the game directly from the airport, or if your hotel is right on a runway, you might think about just taking the "AirBART" shuttle from OAK to the Coliseum BART station and then walk across to the stadium.

#4: If you're gonna be in the area, yeah, try to get to the SF park. It really is awesome. And if you do plan on going, let me know and I can buy you a drink -- I work 2 blocks from the ballpark.

No poetry any more. I've moved on to more scary things. -- Miguel Batista @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 7, 2006 5:41 PM PST reply actions  

If it's bait, can I call you "chum"?
No poetry any more. I've moved on to more scary things. -- Miguel Batista @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 7, 2006 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as you don't call me...
CHUD.

Or bitch. I could do without bitch too.

by Ozzz on Mar 7, 2006 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

So I can't call you "Anna Benson"?
No poetry any more. I've moved on to more scary things. -- Miguel Batista @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 7, 2006 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

wilkommen! bienvenue!
welcome!

To Cabaret! Au Cabaret! Im Cabaret!

Oops, I mean

To the Oakland Coliseum! Au le Oakland Coliseum! Im die Oakland Coliseum!

"Damn kids" -Ron Flores

by secret ASian man on Mar 7, 2006 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Joel Grey ...
... has one of the 4 or 5 greatest creepy film performances ever in that role.

(And, yes, Peter Lorre has most of the rest.)

No poetry any more. I've moved on to more scary things. -- Miguel Batista @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 8, 2006 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

a restraining order will do that ...
No poetry any more. I've moved on to more scary things. -- Miguel Batista @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 8, 2006 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You got the order.
She got the disorder.

Strangley poetic.

by Ozzz on Mar 9, 2006 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

"Strangley Poetic"?
Wasn't that the serial-killer moniker the cops gave to that guy who was leaving garrotted starlets in the Hollywood Hills with little poems pinned to their blouses?
No poetry any more. I've moved on to more scary things. -- Miguel Batista @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 9, 2006 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

No, you're confusing him with Darin Erstad.
Otherwise known as "strangely pathetic".
Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 9, 2006 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

good seats
home plate is at 117 or 217 depending on which level you are on.  there is a screen, but it is no bother.  every section going higher in numbers is third base lower is first base.  mine are in 118 about 20 rows back.  they crush.  if you want the best in house, get diamond level from ebay, about $180 if i remember right.  it is a game to remember.  you are on the field behind the catcher.  the seats you see on t.v.  they bring you food for free to your seat and you get whatever promo they have there for you.  oh yeah, lot's of autographs happen there as the players for both teams walk right by you.  
"Oakland is home, and you always want to go home. Anytime you get the chance, you're happy to go home." - #24 Rickey Henderson

by burnone on Mar 7, 2006 5:45 PM PST reply actions  

Diamond Level
I sat in the Diamond seats once and didn't like it at all.  You have a great view of the battery but it's difficult to see what's happening in the outfield because you're basically at field level.

I agree with a previous poster who recommends the Sect 116-118 area behind home plate (my season tickets used to be in Row 30, right under the overhang).  Low enough to be close to the action but a decent view of the outfield because you've got a bit of elevation.

by LoveDemAs on Mar 7, 2006 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

If you get Diamond Level...
...and you are one of those jackasses that stands up, with cellphone glued to ear, and waves & waves & waves at the centerfield camera, undoubtedly saying "Can you see me? Dude! I'm right behind the plate! I'm waving! Can you see me?" to whatever buddy of yours is watching the game on TV while talking to you on the phone...

...I will track you down and smack you with a flounder.

I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Mar 7, 2006 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

If anyone from AN sits in Diamond Level...
...they absolutely must brings Nico's vision to life, and when the cameras are rolling, hold up a sign which says "Hit it Here, Kendall."  Please, oh please, someone do this.
Defeat d'Anaheim!

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 7, 2006 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome to Oakland
Please leave all ballteams as you find them...if everyone took one home with them we'd have none left.

On #3, there plenty of uppermid range hotels hotels along Hegenberger Road, which makes a 2 mile straight line from Airport to Coliseum.  All of them are OK; all provide lots of American Airport culture and zero Oakland culture (except the circular purple hotel, which is another story entirely).  There are some very low-end hotels along Coliseum Way North of the 'seum (where Wolff's Plan A park would have been) that offer perhaps more than you want to learn about "Oakland culture," in the most reztipsy of senses.  If an important goal is to stay in a place that feels like Oakland in a good way, try the Jack London Square area--range from Waterfront Plaza to Jack London Inn, all nice, none cheap.  Ribs at Everett and Jones BBQ, Jazz at Yoshi's, a decent night's slice of Oakland.  A bit further afield is a Motel Six, maybe 1-1.5 miles from Jack London Sq, along Embarcadero, perhaps a bit less pricey.

All of these (except the sketchy Coliseum Way ones) are a walk or bus or cab away from BART.  And you won't want to walk from BART to Jack London at night, but there's a cab stand at 12th Street BART station and it's a short ride.  BART will get you lots of places but you need to tack on soemthing to get to a lot of Bay Area spots.  This will also prove true if you head to SF, which is of course a great city worth seeing, ballpark or otherwise <ducks chair>.

Defeat d'Anaheim!

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 7, 2006 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

"reztipsy"
<hic>
No poetry any more. I've moved on to more scary things. -- Miguel Batista @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 7, 2006 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, and also...
...since you asked for advice.  Around here we spell is "Coliseum."  Sorry.
Defeat d'Anaheim!

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 7, 2006 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I've always wondered...
what was up with the purple hotel.  Care to elaborate?
"All the years I lived in the Bay Area, just hearing Bill's voice alone, that was the signal that baseball was here again."--Ken Korach.

by jeepers on Mar 7, 2006 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The Edgewater Hotel
Once formally known as the Edgewater West Adult Resort, the purple circular fixture on Hegenberger was for years the East Bay swinger Mecca.  It was sold in 2001 to become a "normal" hotel and doesn't have the swinger reputation so much anymore.  However, the fact that the new owners have left it purple, with no signage whatsoever, makes me think that the business plan includes keeping some of their old client base.
Defeat d'Anaheim!

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 7, 2006 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it used to be a normal hotel ...
... until someone stepped on it and it started to turn purple ...
No poetry any more. I've moved on to more scary things. -- Miguel Batista @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 7, 2006 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You are welcome
to purchase ours.  If you are interested email me at jb_wilcox@att.net. I can get you $ and location.

You are my long lost Parry cousin right?

while I'm GM, I'd get the black uniform tops back into the mix, make high socks mandatory and add a beer tap in the press box-Mychael Urban

by jb on Mar 7, 2006 6:42 PM PST reply actions  

have fun in cali 'Oz
Just returned from FL and some ST down there. ahhhh the sun!
"Keep Watson in Oakland in '06"- The Committee has reconvened and is accepting new members.

by bigelephant on Mar 7, 2006 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

I HATE the outfield seats
some of you may know that I'm bitter about the closing of the third deck, but it's my opinion that the outfield seats SUCK.  You can't see the outfielders unless you're at the edge.

I personally like sitting near the left field foul pole.  My fave section is 130.  But those are $30, while you can get 231 for $14.

Basically, you get what you pay for except from 234-249.  (Those are $10, FYI)

Enjoy Oakland.  Be sure to rep yo shit while you're here.

Oh, and definitely go to SF.  Some people who don't live in the Bay think Oakland and SF are equivalents.  And even though I grew up in the East Bay and have EB pride, that's just a crock of shit.  Don't know about the stadium though - I've heard it's nice, but I refuse to support the Giants so I've never been there.

It's a beautiful day for baseball.

by As Man on Mar 7, 2006 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

I would try to stay away from the Coliseum.
Nothing much in the area.  See if you can get a decent rate at the Courtyard in Downtown Oakland.  It's very close to BART, which will get you to the Coliseum and most other places you might want to visit.  It's also walking distance from the ferry to SF, which you can take directly to whatever the Giants' stadium is called at the moment (assuming you're going for a game).

If you need to save money on your hotel, folks seem to be able to get the Oakland Airport Hilton on Priceline for $55-60 per night.  Hotels in this area (Oakland/Berkeley/Emeryville) are expensive, so this is a good value.  You could also get lucky and end up at the Marriott in Downtown Oakland, but you're most likely to get the Hilton if you use Priceline.  IMPORTANT: Do not bid for anything below 3 stars or you could end up someplace nasty.  I have strategies for getting your best price on Priceline.  E-mail me if you want advice.

Experiencing Oakland (my top 10 in no particular order):

  1. Eat at Le Cheval on 10th and Clay for a busy/crazy large Vietnamese meal where EVERYONE from the Mayor to EMTs eat.
  2. Have a fantastic $2 Vietnamese sandwich at Cam Huong on Webster at 9th.
  3. Enjoy great Cambodian food at Phnom Penh House on 8th at Alice.
  4. Eat crisp yuppie pizza or swanky organic Mexican food in the Temescal district (51st and Telegraph) with dinner at either Pizzialo or Dona Tomas.
  5. Have kick ass Korean stews (esp. #3 on the specials menu) at Sahn Maru (Telegraph at 43rd) or Korean BBQ at Oghane (3900 block of Broadway).
  6. The best Ethiopian food in the area is at Cafe Colucci on Telegraph at Alcatraz.
  7. A fried chicken sandwich to die for (you will never be able to eat chick-fil-a again) can be had at Bakesale Betty (Telegraph at 51st).  The scones are amazing as well.
  8. Hoist a few tasty Belgian beers (or Hendricks & Tonics) at Luka's Taproom on Broadway at West Grand (23rd).  Great food and DJ action as well.
  9. Visit Heinold's First and Last Chance (http://www.heinoldsfirstandlastchance.com/)--the only authentic thing at Jack London Square.  Closes absurdly early (midnight?), but it's worth a visit to have a beer by gaslight and try to negotiate the floor that's been askew since '06.
  10. Experience yup-scale Rockridge with a meal at Pearl Oyster Bar, Grasshopper (Asian small plates & GREAT cocktails), or A Cote (French small plates & GREAT cocktails).  Trendy, not cheap...but yummy.
"I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain."--Darby Crash

by lexdevil on Mar 7, 2006 8:56 PM PST reply actions  

do you post on chowhound too?
I second those recs, particularly #6 and #7!

by miguel on Mar 7, 2006 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

On occasion.
Betty's is the BEST.  Have you had the braised pork sandwich?  Or the egg salad?  I don't even like egg salad, but I love that sandwich.  And that potato salad she just started making is really tasty as well.  I think I've probably gained 10 lbs. since she opened her shop!
"I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain."--Darby Crash

by lexdevil on Mar 7, 2006 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

tell me about it.
Betty's is dangerous.  They're super-friendly too.  I've tried all except the beef sandwich they have on occasion, they're all awesome, but I just loooove the fried chicken sandwich.  Don't even get me started on the cookies / desserts...

it's a good thing I don't live too close to that area, or I'd be there everyday for lunch.

by miguel on Mar 7, 2006 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

My kid goes to school a few blocks from Betty's.
And we live at most a half mile away.  I probably sneak away from work at least twice a week to pick up lunch...and then there are the pot pies for dinner...
"I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain."--Darby Crash

by lexdevil on Mar 7, 2006 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Alright.
You got me. It's on my list of things to eat.

by Ozzz on Mar 7, 2006 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Vietnamese Sandwiches
highly reccomended
"Damn kids" -Ron Flores

by secret ASian man on Mar 7, 2006 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially the curried chicken...
...with lots of peppers.  
"I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain."--Darby Crash

by lexdevil on Mar 7, 2006 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

If you can handle spicy
I highly reccomend the liberal use of Sriacha hot sauce on the sandwich.
"Damn kids" -Ron Flores

by secret ASian man on Mar 7, 2006 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit, now I'm hungry for...
...dinner #2.
"I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain."--Darby Crash

by lexdevil on Mar 7, 2006 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Lex is correct in each of these:
*Note: Monday is Dollar Oyster Day at Luka's (#8) and they have $1 off the draft beers as well!!!
While taint is everywhere and baseball is certainly no different, it's important that it be treated with open attention-Devo

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Mar 8, 2006 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

opinions on #1 and #4...
#1: My own seating preference, for the view, is just about anywhere around the infield -- but it always sounds like the bleachers (especially LF) are the place to be if you're sociable... I dunno, because I'm antisocial, so I've never sat there...  ;)

If you get a Plaza Level ticket, be aware that Row #1 is the walkway (yes, this seems NOW like a no-brainer, but I didn't know that the first time I went to the Coliseum, and I had people milling around, blocking my view and crashing into my knees during the entire game). If your seat is lower than about Row 6 in the Plaza Level, your view might be at least partially blocked by pedestrians and the safety rail.

#4:  I also think it's worth a trip to Phone Co. Park... and as booya pointed out in the first comment, it's fairly easy to do via BART + walking or streetcar.

I'll have a spare ticket for the Wednesday game (4/5) if you're still in town then and would like to use it...  :)

I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Mar 7, 2006 10:21 PM PST reply actions  

I'd still opt for the ferry...
...that goes directly to the Giants' park. http://www.eastbayferry.com/where/pacbell.html  They ran it for the pre-season Saturday game last year, so I imagine that they'll do it again this year.  One of the cheapest ways to get out on the Bay, and if the weather doesn't suck, it can be nice.  They sell wine and beer on board as well.
"I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain."--Darby Crash

by lexdevil on Mar 7, 2006 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds like a plan.
Being as I'm a tourist and all.

Poppy, I might just hit you up for that spare. Gotta see what the airfare situation is, and whether the wife has a friend coming to stay while I'm away, to help with the newborn.

If I get the green light from she who must be obeyed and adored, I'm there.

by Ozzz on Mar 7, 2006 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Ferry would *definitely* be better than BART
I don't know anything in Oakland except the Coliseum, so I didn't even realize there WAS a ferry from Oakland to Phone Co. Park.  Even if the weather is bad, I think being on the ferry would be a lot less uncomfortable than being in the transbay BART tunnel...  :\
I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Mar 8, 2006 6:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Definitely
I've taken the ferry from Larkspur a bunch of times (though never from Oakland), and it's a great experience on a nice day.  Lots of fans having a good time, pre-gaming, etc.

Much better than riding a train through the tunnel.

by booya on Mar 8, 2006 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

My thoughts ...
  1. The coliseum is like most parks, except more so ... the less you pay, the further away from the action you are. Only the coliseum was built out instead of up more than is typical today, so the cheaper seats are further away. That said, I love the view from a Sec 220-222 ... not too far away, but enough distance and height to really be able to see what's going on. The bleachers are fun, but the view is distant and you can't see what's going on in the OF under you.
  2. I find it hard to believe the exhibition will sell out ... and even if it does, there will be scalpers selling for face value or, likely, below ... but you won't have as much choice in seating ... though there's a decent chance you'll get better tix than are available today.
  3. The hotels in the airport area are all in perfectly safe but horrendously boring neighborhoods. There is nothing at all to do out there ... unless you're a golfer, there's a brand new course in that area. You could also consider staying in a different part of town, Jack London, perhaps where there's a lot more to do and better food to eat. The Coliseum and the airport are an easy BART ride (and airport shuttle) from most of Oakland.
  4. I'd absolutely recommend you check out PacBell ... it's a beautiful park and definitely worth seeing. The ferry is nice ... though it will likely be a bit cold heading back, so you might consider BART for the return ride. I'd try to pick up a ticket in Row 1 of the Arcade if you can ...

by devo on Mar 8, 2006 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

The future Mrs. Devo's website...
...doesn't read too well for Firefox in MacOS.  Just letting you know.
"Damn kids" -Ron Flores

by secret ASian man on Mar 8, 2006 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

really?
I don't have access to a mac, what does it look like?

by devo on Mar 8, 2006 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The font is small and fuzzy
looks fine Safari for MacOS.  Haven't hopped on my PC yet today.
"Damn kids" -Ron Flores

by secret ASian man on Mar 8, 2006 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

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