SHOCK: Rampant homerism on Halos' Heaven

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 12:30 AM PST

So RevHaloHomer posted a front pager on the regularly mocked and always derided Halos' Heaven tonight, taking great glee and making great predictions for the 2006 season based on the fact that the A's split squad managed just one hit against the Cubbies yesterday.

Of course, across Arizona, the other A's squad beat the tar out of the Mariners, 20-8, but the LAAAAAAA folks would prefer to point out that Richie Robnett and Korey Wayment couldn't muster a hit against big league pitching. I guess they figure the (AA) next to Robnett's name means "Angeles Angels".

Here's a sample of what passes for informed debate on the Rally Monkey end of town:

Lick your Pecota Popsicle over Casey Kotchman's low sample size of at-bats making him appear as a minor leaguer to your computer, never once thinking that Mark Ellis will never repeat a 125 VORP... (he can't, he won't, he's average and regressing to the mean by the minute),

Pretend that Kelvim Escobar's removed bone spurs were just the beginning and that Milton Bradley's pinkie and Eric ShuhVEZ' shoulder are made of precisely aligned titanium...

Assume Garret Anderson is 33 going on 44 while you wait for Bobby Crosby and Rich Harden to each play one measly healthy season.

Make a Bartolo fat joke while you ignore a lead-footed gallon of molasses on the basepaths in all their green-and-gold-double-play-waiting-to-happen-glory...

The Oakychoaky Februaries have been celebrating their 2006 World Championship for the month of Predictionary. As the new season dawns, there's holes in their swings, aches in their arms and the issue of clubhouse chemistry is still taboo on stat-team island.

Maybe the OakChoke Nation better start composing rationalizations for their impending failure now and test them as April trial balloons after each early loss in order to remain "On-Message" when the Billy Beane Disco Ball lights up an empty Autumn dance floor...

Oh, such mirth. Oh, such homerism.

Here's what PastorRallyMonkey won't talk about:

The Seattle destruction - 20-8 is a beatdown of mammoth proportions, especially when your split squad is playing their FULL squad.
It's SPRING TRAINING - when you start putting big credence in spring training split squad results, you're really stretching.
Anyone remember this game on Thursday, where the awesome AAAA grouping of Kiko Calero, John Rheinecker, Juan Cruz, Jorge Casilla, Ron Flores and Dan Meyer shoved The Angels Angels of Anaheim (English translation) into the loss column?
On the same day the Rev was crowing about the A's split squad loss, the Angles were getting their asses handed to them by the Arizona SPLIT SQUAD. Eric Byrnes even hit a dinger!
Was that the ROYALS beating the LAAAAAAAAAA (to the power of 3) full team 5-1 on Friday?
The Angles play the Mariners today. anything less than a 12-run victory for the Darin Erstad Stalingrad IX will be something we can laugh at since, you know, we suck and all, yet we beat the M's 20-8.

There is one other thing we should consider - none of this matters. It's spring training, after all, where players are supposed to put getting into shape above results on the field.

But the cell-phone chattering, Rally Monkey clutching, grit-espousing Disneyland Cupids of Anaheim will continue to blah blah about how the fact that Two Buck Chuck Thomas didn't manage a hit today, and Bobby Kielty only got two walks in three plate appearances, and AA-based Richie Robnett didn't score a run, is an indicator that Oakland will fade in the stretch.

All together now... BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!

UPDATE: At 11:20am, there were 33 comments on the Rev's diary, about half mocking him for his ridiculous commentary, and the other half him trying to make witty retorts.

At 11:37am, 30 of those comments were deleted, leaving only those supporting the Rev visible. Welcome to free speech, Halos style.

Poll

RevHaloFan:

Homer

11 votes

Moron

13 votes

Mentally unhinged

6 votes

Throwing red meat to his idiot brethren

13 votes

Unworthy of the energy it takes to hold his atoms togethers

4 votes

Nailed his sister. She said I was better than him.

20 votes

All of the above, and many more besides.

55 votes

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Comments

So why the fuck are you feeding the beast?

You snipe at him over here every chance you get and now your posting a link to a mountain of bullshit.

Why?

So everyone here can go over there and say "Yeah, 'tis a pile of stinky poo" and then you can feel good about correctly identifying crap? That's the #1 way Rev has of getting traffic on his site, so quit shilling for the guy and find yourself a better Angels site if you want to know what the other side is saying.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 12:45 AM PST reply actions

Not for nothing...

...but HH is an SB Nation site. That makes it relevant what's going on there, how the place is run, and whether it's hitting the standards of professionalism dictated by the agreement Rev signed when he took over the site.

Right now, Rev is deleting posts left and right, changing posts, disabling posting rights and cursing his ass off over there - and yeah, I'm pressing his buttons, but plenty come here to press our buttons and we behave in a different way.

So hey, excuse the heck out of me for letting folks know what's on the other side of a very thin fence.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 12:53 AM PST up reply actions

Been there, done that

Got banned for my troubles.

Then I got to enjoy a series of personal attacks as Rev spun and lied and twisted what I said in an effort to justify my banning, an action that was panned by the members of HH by a 12 to 1 margin.

So don't preach to me. Anyone over here who cares already knows what's happening over there, and nothing is going to happen to rectify the situation as long as the little counter keeps ticking upward.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 1:11 AM PST up reply actions

Although I gotta admit

The poll question involving his atoms was funny.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 1:13 AM PST up reply actions

I try to keep it light.

I'll admit, I do enjoy yanking his chain, just because he's so bad at the comebacks. It's like pitting Monkeyball against Nicole Richie in a pun contest.

I will give him credit - he banned me just now, but when I came back under another name and called him on it, he unbanned me, and stopped deleting my posts. So that's something... I guess.

His real problem is he's just ill-equipped to take a bit of ribbing and give back same. It's always venom with the guy, and when he's losing, he gets trigger happy with the admin tools and starts doing things you're not supposed to do if you're running a straight up site.

If he'd just lighten up a little, maybe listen to some opposing points of view once in a while, nobody would complain, and his site would really pick up some steam.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 1:17 AM PST up reply actions

honestly, I am sick of hearing about him

Yeah, he is an idiot homer. I get it. If I wanted to hear more about him I would go to HH.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 7:36 AM PST reply actions

And yet...

...you clicked on the diary that said "Rampant homerism in Halos' Heaven"...

Did you mean to click on something else?

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 8:12 AM PST up reply actions

I figured that was coming

I wanted to say within this diary that I am tired of the Rev Halofan conversation. Yeah, I could have skipped the diary but I just wanted you to know that I am tired of him being discussed here.... Take that for what it is worth though, just my opinion.

On the other hand, beating the angels will be all the more fun because of him.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 8:31 AM PST up reply actions

Good point.

Though I think it speaks to the class of this place that when we beat them pre-season, we didn't go writing diaries claiming they were kaput for the season.

But yeah, it'll be nice to watch them slink into third place. Maybe then they'll learn what VORP means and catch up.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 9:23 AM PST up reply actions

Seriously

The way you hurt the Rev the most is to ignore him. He's smart enough to realize that AN has the biggest SB audience, so if he repeatedly attacks A's fans, he knows he'll get someone to link to the site thus creating traffic and continuing to grow his audience. Even if it isn't the ideal audience, he's happy that it's growing.

Why do you think he continues to attack? Nothing drives traffic more than controversy.

And as for representing SB Nation, Angel fans are different than A's fans. They obviously enjoy his brand of homerism because the audience does continue to grow. Then again, perhaps a lot of the audience are A's fans who are wanting to see what he says next about the team.

The only way we'll find out is if AN ignores it.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 26, 2006 9:36 AM PST reply actions

I was going to say the same thing

There seem to be few, if any, Angels fans who read HH.

Stop clicking the link; he'll have no traffic.

by MrIncognito on Mar 27, 2006 4:47 PM PST up reply actions

Ya gotta admit....

This is pretty good:

"Maybe the OakChoke Nation better start composing rationalizations for their impending failure now and test them as April trial balloons after each early loss in order to remain "On-Message" when the Billy Beane Disco Ball lights up an empty Autumn dance floor..."

by Mark H on Mar 26, 2006 10:21 AM PST reply actions

Did you see the other 33 comments under that?

If not, you never will. Because The Rev just deleted them all because they pointed out how dumb his diary was. He even deleted his own responses.

33 comments just dropped to 3.

That's the way HH operates. Agree with us or we ban you, delete your posts, and pretend there's no opposition to our infantile rantings.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:37 AM PST up reply actions

In the rev's defense

Wasn't half of the comments from sockpuppet accounts of banned AN users?

<<-THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED->>

by secret ASian man on Mar 26, 2006 12:35 PM PST up reply actions

Defending RevHomerHankie?

What's a sockpuppet account?

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Mar 26, 2006 12:40 PM PST up reply actions

sockpuppetry

When you get banned from a website, you try to get around it by creating a new account.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_sock_puppet

<<-THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED->>

by secret ASian man on Mar 26, 2006 12:47 PM PST up reply actions

Yes.

The bigger question is, is it cool to ban someone because you disagree with them, or because they ridiculed you in a way you couldn't ably respond to?

When a guy engages in a debate with me and I school him, I don't expect him to start changing his old posts, deleting mine, and banning me so I can't point out his dishonesty.

But if they do, the only way to respond is to reregister and point it out.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:09 PM PST up reply actions

Can we get an online petition going to bring the

33 comments back?

I really want to read them.

Frankly, to me, RevHaloHomer's site is just about the funniest place on the net. I never leave that site without laughing, no matter how stressed or depressed I am. It is great comic relief!

If you want incisive, thoughtful analysis go to AN, but, if you want full scale parody, a good laugh, and a mockery of the game go to HH!

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Mar 26, 2006 12:09 PM PST reply actions

OK, HH is a laugh fest

Where on SB Nation are you supposed to go for quality Angels content?

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 12:23 PM PST up reply actions

Sadly, I don't think it can be found on SB Nation

There's one guy, Matt Welch, who is one of the few intelligent posters on HH. Sometimes, he has good analyses, but I think he's been scared off by the Rev's antics.

Sometimes good analysis on the Halos can be found here: http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Mar 26, 2006 12:38 PM PST up reply actions

I talked with mattwelch

I wonder if he has a website? And I've read 6-4-2, they do both Dodgers and Angels and there seems to be a need for coverage of both teams on SB Nation.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 12:50 PM PST up reply actions

I think he has a non-sports blog

It's either about conservative politics or some LA thing, or both.

<<-THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED->>

by secret ASian man on Mar 26, 2006 12:54 PM PST up reply actions

Too bad

He's got some good stuff.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 1:10 PM PST up reply actions

Seriously, I mean

I used to post over there, but the quality of analysis was pretty lame. So I followed in the path of one of the greatest Halos who came to his senses and joined the A's...

Check it out:
http://halosheaven.com/user/Bruce%20Bochte/comments

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Mar 26, 2006 1:53 PM PST up reply actions

No can do

Not gonna feed the beast.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 2:05 PM PST up reply actions

Seriously

Oz, if you don't like the Rev so much, then don't read his stuff. It's not like he's camped outside your home with a megaphone reading his blog posts and insulting your family at all hours of the day and night.

Or is it...

<<-THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED->>

by secret ASian man on Mar 26, 2006 12:49 PM PST reply actions

Ha, nice one SA Man!

You'll give him nightmares with that one for sure.

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Mar 26, 2006 1:50 PM PST up reply actions

Here's the thing:

When the guy posts a BS front pager heckling the A's and calling their season over for losing a split squad game in spring training, and proceeds to mock all our players, our management, and ourselves, I reserve the right to lay down the smackdown in our defense.

And when he responds to said smackdown by not only running away from my arguments but deleting them and banning me (twice), I take it upon myself to point out what he's doing is bullshit.

Every SB Nation site has strong professional blogger standards... except HH. That's the bottom line.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:12 PM PST up reply actions

I don't know what actually happened,

as I rarely visit the HH site, but if non-offensive dissenting comments are being deleted, and if I'm in Blez' shoes, I shut down the site or change leaders. That kind of behavior, if it is happening, is contrary to the spirit of one of this country's very, very early amendments--and allowing this kind of behavior would reflect very badly on SB Nation, IMO.

In short, I hope that this did not happen (and I truly have no idea if it did), or if it did that Blez will take some action on it on behalf of all our reputations.

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 2:52 PM PST reply actions

Well said Nico!

There is a SERIOUS free speech issue here. Its not the first time Rev has acted with dictatorial impunity.

Besides, he's depriving us all of laughs by striking down witty retorts and substituting them with iPod lyrics and silly prediction contests.

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Mar 26, 2006 3:07 PM PST up reply actions

Hey, if he wants to

moderate baseball analysis, or if he wants to take a "Howard Stern" approach, more power to him. I find only the former interesting, but think both are within his rights.

But what's being reported--maybe accurately, maybe not, I don't know--cannot be tolerated if you want your blog, or series of blogs, to be taken seriously.

I'm reserving judgment entirely until I know for sure where the truth lies, but I'm definitely watching this issue very closely and with great interest.

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 5:04 PM PST up reply actions

I can guarantee you 100% that what I reported...

..is absolutely true.

And the evidence of it is on HH right now - right here.

The linked comment from The Rev, as it sits right now, makes no sense. It would seem he's commenting on his own diary and saying it was a WEAK comeback. The reason is that the post in question now has no parent comment, as the parent, and the entire string preceding it, was deleted.

What came before that comment was much back and forth, none of it offensive in any way, until I referred to him as a homer. He said in response, "YES I AM A HOMER, BUT FOR THE RIGHT TEAM YOU FUCKING IDIOT!"

I kept it clean and responded like so; "Yes, yes you are a home for the right team. Because no other team would have you. Standards, don't you know."

He then replied with the post you see left, and a few minutes later deleted the others.

And about four threads more. And banned me. It was the second time he'd banned me that night, and the third round of post deletions.

He actually changed his own posts too, so they didn't look weird with mine gone.

Oh, and he did the same BS routine a few nights earlier in a thread titles "Billy Beane on LAA's prospects." Another thread where he mocked Beane and ANers, so I responded that it was a bit homerish to mock a guy saying you have a good team.

Long story short, he was happy to mock in response, but whenever I mocked back and nailed him a little too good, he'd remove my posts, eventually banning me from posting.

The post here has had several replies to it, all of them from me, asking why he bans people he can't beat. They disappear within the hour.

I'm all for a guy keeping his forum safe from trolls, but I know the difference between mocking unmercifully and being a troll. If he wants to poke our cage, he should damn well have the decency to not play with admin tools so as to pretend he won arguments that he was schooled in.

That's dirty pool. It's filthy pool. Check the accounts MrOz, Weak, PreviouslyDeleted and WhyBanThoseYouCantBeat. The first three exist, but can't post, yet you won't find a single comment they made warranted banning. I expect the last to join them soon.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:26 PM PST up reply actions

my glance at HH

my glace at HH when I first read this diary confirms with what Oz has said about the comments that rev made and then deleted. He prevoked the "poo slinging" by saying, "But I am a homer for the rightteam, you fucking idiot" and then deleted the rest of the posts due to them being mud slinging. He is a very unprofessional blog admin, to say the least.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 11:31 PM PST up reply actions

The truth was deleted, NIco

H.O's posts were not grover questioning Erstad's defense, this was smack talking, having the comment deleted, smack talking more, being banned, creating a new user account and smack talking some more.

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 5:34 PM PST reply actions

Smack talk?

I pointed out to you that it was a spring training game, that the A's other squad peeled the M's, that the A-list hitters that got blanked were largely triple-A hitters, that the Angels got murdered by AAA Oakland pitchers last week, and that Darin Erstad hasn't hit more than 10 dingers in a season this century.

Where's the poo poo talk? Where's the 'smack'? That's insight, brother, and you were fine with it until your attempts at humor were beaten down by my own.

You deleted me not because I said naughty things, or because I started an argument (your own diary did that), but because you couldn't beat me.

You banned me, because I was schooling you.

That, good sir, is the height of wimpdom.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:30 PM PST up reply actions

OH... and of the 33 posts deleted

30 were his or my responses to each other. Yep grown men saying poo-poo have been censored, free speech be muerto...

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 5:37 PM PST reply actions

Just out of curiosity,

what were the other 3 posts, and why delete anything? They are a record of a conversation that happened. Ban the user, but why delete the comments, why delete your own comments?

Just wondering. I'm never going to take sides on this one, because I never saw the content in question.

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 5:42 PM PST up reply actions

the other three posts are still there

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 7:57 PM PST up reply actions

Your post above,

which I can see because it hasn't been deleted, says "Of the 33 deleted posts, 30 were..." That suggests there were 3 other deleted posts. Those are the ones I'm asking about.

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 8:19 PM PST up reply actions

sorry, typo

should read of the 33 posts, 30 were deleted.

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 8:28 PM PST up reply actions

you know

If you want to use yesterday's spring training results (and we all know how meaningless spring training results are) for an indicator of what the coming season will bring you might want to look at some things.....

The A's averaged 10 runs a game yesterday and gave up 9 in 19 innings. That is 10 runs a game for and a team era of 4.26.

If you average almost 6 runs per game more than you give up, your team is likely to be good... really good.
But, since you are nothing but a reactionary meat head, your analysis would not include all of the facts from yesterday. Just the ones that suit you.

Now go away. I have seen enough of you here. I do not read your blog and I promise I will not dirty it with a well thought out and contrary opinion.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 6:25 PM PST up reply actions

Ooh, that's not a nice comment

Hang on a sec while I delete it...

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 6:31 PM PST up reply actions

why?

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 6:34 PM PST up reply actions

Sarcasm

Don't forget this is Nico you're talking with.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 6:36 PM PST up reply actions

duh

my bad....

I am not all there right now..

too thrilled about frank thomas' dinger and triumphant return.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 6:39 PM PST up reply actions

and please answer this question

Have you or have you not deleated posts because they ran contrary to your opinions?

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 6:38 PM PST up reply actions

How is he going to respond to you?

When you just asked him to go away.

<<-THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED->>

by secret ASian man on Mar 26, 2006 6:40 PM PST up reply actions

Damn!

Asking the tough questions.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 6:41 PM PST up reply actions

well

either result is ok with me.
It is a win win situation.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 6:42 PM PST up reply actions

Maybe the Rev

initially answered "Yes," then disagreed with himself and deleted the post.

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 7:21 PM PST up reply actions

If Rev gets that kind of authority

on this side of the pond I'm gone.

I'm not sure if that means I'll walk away or if he'll ban me.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Mar 26, 2006 7:25 PM PST up reply actions

He shouldn't have the sort of authority..

..in his own bathroom.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:47 PM PST up reply actions

man

I can only imagine what happens if he has trouble deciding which breakfast cereal he wants in the morning. If he chooses toasty O's and then decides that he wants peanut butter bumpers half way through, does he delete the bowl?

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 7:26 PM PST up reply actions

Or does he only

eat cereals that taste like Darin Erstad?

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 7:32 PM PST up reply actions

Whoa now

I do not think a cereal with an OPS+ of 85 over the last 5 seasons would taste very good. In fact, I do not think it would be fit for human consumption.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 7:42 PM PST up reply actions

Sorry, I actually

stole the idea of off Jason Kendall. Anyway, who needs cereal at all when you have GRITS?

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 7:52 PM PST up reply actions

Who needs cereal...

..or batting average.. or OBP.. or power.. or a hamstring that doesn't snap like a guitar string..

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 12:04 AM PST up reply actions

because

I've deleted posts that were contrary to my opinion - BUT - that was not the reason I deleted them.

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 8:01 PM PST up reply actions

why then

why did you delete them then?

And are you aware that on the date that the A's got one hit by the cubs in split squad action the other half of their split squad scored 20 runs? Or do spring training results that appeal to you worth mentioning?

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 8:13 PM PST up reply actions

selective editing

I added the CAVEAT in italics in my post that the A's had scored 20 runs in the another game - funny H.Oz failed to mention that paragraph in the above post...

Why did I delete them? When things start to look like the rag-a-thon message boards on the MLB site, ESPN and other goofy fan forums, I get out the bugspray.

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 8:32 PM PST up reply actions

Perhaps in hindsight,

better to let those things slip into the archives and be quickly forgotten than to "tamper"? That's what I'm getting from all this, as an outside observer.

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 8:39 PM PST up reply actions

I understand that in theory

but it is like the difference between moutwash and brushing teeth - using just the former means all that gunk is still there.

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 8:59 PM PST up reply actions

Just a hunch,

but I think traffic on HH might improve if you accepted more gunk, but it meant people could post more freely with less awareness of your presence. Moderators are like umpires: if you are too aware of them, are they having a good day?

by Nico on Mar 26, 2006 9:59 PM PST up reply actions

improve?

If I don't get a diary raging about me on A.N. every week, my traffic will disappear!

Seriously though, i think SBN can be different than the message boards - A.N. has a large community to impose guidelines from within a community - so the deletions are sort of my version of that - HH is only 1 year old and only has 8% the # of A.N.'s registered users, so a lot of things on HH are in my hands or they don't get done - and raging poo-poo namecalling is already being replicated on every sports message board everywhere - let's all work to make SBN different !

(reaches out to hold hands, nobody holds hands, silence, awkward staring...)

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 10:47 PM PST up reply actions

the poo slinging

the poo slinging at HH starts with you.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 11:15 PM PST up reply actions

Oh. My. God.

Here's a sample of what the Rev called me yesterday (I saved it once posts started disappearing):

Idiot
Fucking idiot
Liar
Troll
Fucking troll
Moron
Imbecile

That's 7 posts out of 16 he made calling me something that would get you a warning here.

In response (and I was very careful about this) I called him not one offensive name, other than 'homer'.

If you wanted to delete the namecalling, Rev, you could start by banning your own account.

Oh, and maybe by not lying here. You might think the posts are gone, but I'm not stupid enough to see you deleting them and not make copies of what was left...

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:43 PM PST up reply actions

so ...

what part of your dossier of these horrible crimes against humanity will have a negative effect on my senatorial campaign?

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 11:53 PM PST up reply actions

None.

Just as long as you're running as a Republican.

Which I can TOTALLY see.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:56 PM PST up reply actions

Ouch! Hey!!!

"This is the show. Do it right."

by baseballgirl on Mar 27, 2006 9:36 AM PST up reply actions

Have you ever

Have you ever deleted any posts for no other reason than they ran contrary to your opinion?

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 8:50 PM PST up reply actions

Have I?

No.

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 8:56 PM PST up reply actions

I do not believe you

I do not believe you.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 26, 2006 9:04 PM PST up reply actions

I'm gonna come right out..

..and call you a liar, Rev.

An absolute, 100%, unadulterated liar.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:35 PM PST up reply actions

Liar!

Here's how it went:

Oz: Funny how he barely mentions the M's getting creamed by 12 by the A's on the same day.

Rev: I took great pains to mention that, you idiot liar.

Oz: The Rev's idea of 'great pains'? A footnote. But hey, I'll bet there were great pains when you saw that Seattle-Oakland scoreline - I bet you had great pains all the way down your right side. Did you smell burning?

Funny, right? Clean, right?

So how did the Rev respond?

He deleted the thread.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:35 PM PST up reply actions

hey

Including a footnote that undermines part of an essay that took ten minutes to write IS a great pain - who are you to judge pain in another human?

To imply that pain is an objective truth that can be quantified is arrogant.

BUT, HEY A.N. - A BIG Thanks for the traffic over to HH today, folks, Sunday is normally our slowest day but it bested our daily average thanks to H.Oz sending folks over - controversey sells - keep buyin' !

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 11:48 PM PST up reply actions

You'd do much better..

..if you learned the difference between one-off attention from people who will never visit you again, and people who come because the site is fun, informative, and the admin isn't an A-grade douchebag who'll ban anyone he can't competently mock.

Hey, here's an idea - try to put together a good Angels site, so that 65% of your visitors aren't people who support another team and are only there to see what level of jackassery you're exhibiting today.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:53 PM PST up reply actions

You deleted my posts two days ago.

And banned me.

Oh, and changed your own post so it wouldn't look weird without mine before it.

Classy moves there, Rev. And you wonder why you get the bad rep.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:45 PM PST up reply actions

I've never deined that I delete posts

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 11:48 PM PST up reply actions

and I have a great rep

HH had its biggest SUNDAY EVER TODAY - hundreds of A.N. came to genuflect at the Shrine of the Red Monkey's Halo...

Come on back to LA of A anytime - your click of that link is my collection plate - Thank$ Ozzy, say hi to Sharon!

by RevHalofan on Mar 26, 2006 11:51 PM PST up reply actions

You're like a guy standing on a ledge...

..57 storeys up, screaming "look at all the hundreds of people looking at me! I'm finally somebody! People finally know who I am!"

The reality that you're missing is they all want you to jump.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:55 PM PST up reply actions

LOL Oz...

That post made me laugh. But seriously ? The worst punishment for an attention Ho like the Rev would be to ignore him. He is eating up this negative attention.

by IM4Oakgal on Mar 26, 2006 11:59 PM PST up reply actions

A-freakin'-men

<<-THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED->>

by secret ASian man on Mar 27, 2006 12:47 AM PST up reply actions

God Damnit!

The Angels beat the A's!

They beat the Mariners by 13 RUNS to our PUNY 12!

Bleacher Crew.com
Chronicling the 2006 Bleachers

by Zonis on Mar 26, 2006 5:39 PM PST reply actions

Oh wait, I can't do math

It was 11!

We win after all!

Bleacher Crew.com
Chronicling the 2006 Bleachers

by Zonis on Mar 26, 2006 5:39 PM PST up reply actions

The guys over at HH

Have been going on about our March World Series for months now because they have some rediculous inferiority complex and think everyone out there is underrating their precious Angels. Even on places like Primer people have to point out that just a year ago 15 of 16 ESPN experts picked the Angels to win the West, and rightly so. BUT OH THOSE WORLD CHAMPION OF MARCH OAKLAND A'S WE'LL SHOW THEM, it's tired, and you shouldn't be bothering with it, Oz.

by walk off bunt on Mar 26, 2006 9:19 PM PST reply actions

But here's the thing:

I have no issue with them saying dumb stuff if I have the chance to refute it cleanly. I mean, that's kind of fun.

You think Chavez has no power? I can argue that he does, and keep it fun and funny. You want to say Zito is overrated and that Erstad is waiting to explode? I reckon I can have fun by saying otherwise.

The problems begin when the guy running things has such a thick skin that he can't live with anything that isn't 100% support of the Angels on his site, and starts changing things, or banning people, or deleting posts to make himself look better.

That just gets my dander up, you know? Brings out the activist in me.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 12:02 AM PST up reply actions

I would suggest...

leaving the HH site alone. As long as you have a blog master there who deletes posts they won't build much of a base. And altering someone's post ? That's a major no-no . No matter what was said.

Why not have a warning system like they do on this site? I have read several of the other SB sites and they all seem to be run in a reasonable way except HH. I read the posts that Grover made a few weeks back. He was reasonable and the only "sin" he committed was to debate with the Rev. It seems banning people is the only way the Rev can handle an open discussion,and the people who suffer are the people who would enjoy a site where they could post about the Angels and be listened to,and get feedback.

by IM4Oakgal on Mar 26, 2006 11:25 PM PST reply actions

It's true.

We get into scraps on this site all the time, but when things get out of hand, the community polices things in a calm, relaxed, often hilarious way.

But on the Rev's site, he incites big arguments, deals the insults to anyone who disagrees with him, and when they take the time to respond in any sort of way that makes him look foolish (real easy), he busts out the delete button - removes their messages, removes their posting rights, removes their accounts.

He's changed other people's diaries before when he didn't agree with them, he's changed other people's polls... the guy is classless.

SB Nation deserves better. (Ha! You can't ban me here, douchebag.)

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 26, 2006 11:39 PM PST up reply actions

seconded

It was funny at first to watch Rev & his sycophants get all exercised over someone trying to engage in reasoned debate there (or in grover's case for example, simply asking what were fans' observations of a particular player, apart from numbers & Gold Gloves)... but if Rev's actually changing diaries & comments now, in addition to the knee-jerk banning -- not so funny.

MMMM... gotta love the "new season" smell ~~ jlaff

by Poppy on Mar 26, 2006 11:49 PM PST up reply actions

SB Nation deserves better.

But it just seems like inciting craziness over on HH just gets him more hits and makes Rev look like he may actually be RIGHT in some of his deletions. Seems like Blez isn't gonna be taking Rev off SBN, as horrible as the content is. I'm with everyone who wants to just ignore HH and let it crash itself down.

If he pulls that kind of deletion on his own members, he won't keep them for very long. Let HH sink into itself. The dreck that's been posted there about other teams isn't any different than it's been -- if people want to read that, it's their problem. I'd be stoked to see Blez take such an unprofessional site off SBN, but it hasn't happened despite complaints, it doesn't look like this meltdown is any more likely to make it happen.

As much as I have warm fuzzy love of the MLB boards, it's a little deja vu-esque creepy how much this situation is reminiscent of the battles that go on over there. Doesn't seem like it's good for the quality of SBNation to have this much focus on internal conflicts.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Mar 26, 2006 11:53 PM PST reply actions

I totally agree with you Kyli

Let me sink myself folks.
I couldn't have hired a better publicist for my site than H.Oz - he totally took me to another level - jeez I love the view up here <0=0>

Think about it.

by RevHalofan on Mar 27, 2006 12:05 AM PST up reply actions

Now I feel dirty.

Aw geez, man. I thought agreeing with an A's fan would break some kind of personal moral code! :-P

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Mar 27, 2006 12:08 AM PST up reply actions

Doesn't play.

You've tried everything to get out of this jam. You lied about the nature of the posts, you said you only deleted trash, you tried the 'can't we all just get along', and now you're going to the 'ignore me, for if you don't, you give me hits' routine.

The bottom line is, you stink as an admin. And not just because your site if filled with bad info, but because your 'thing' is to fight and yel and lay down abuse, but when you get anything back that puts you in your place, you can't take it.

Grow a skin and learn the ethics of blogging, Rev. Maybe then people will come to your site not to mock you, but because you deserve their attention.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 12:09 AM PST up reply actions

Thanks Oz

Everything you say is TRUE.

I'm a shady character. Amoral. No ethics. My team, take no prisoners. And i can't take it - right about that - and i play dirty to compensate.

Mock away - I love the attention - March's paycheck is going to be a lot bigger thanks to you.

Can we get schedule a mid-May Anti-Rev diary? Mrs. Halofan is a late-Taurus and likes jewelry....

by RevHalofan on Mar 27, 2006 12:18 AM PST up reply actions

Mrs HaloFan?

You're still living with your mom?

Dude, drop the lame 'wow, I'm gonna be so rich!' routine. There isn't a person here who doesn't know that your site, at 8% of what AN gets in traffic (according to your numbers), makes barely enough change per month to pay for your Ritalin perscription.

"Wow, today I went from 184 visits to 198! I'm gonna be loaded! Now I can buy the new Richie Rich comicbook!"

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 12:25 AM PST up reply actions

This is the worst diary ever.

Can we move on now?

"We don't start nothin', but we don't take nothin' either" - Dusty Baker

by Philip Christy on Mar 27, 2006 12:23 AM PST reply actions

You can move wherever you want.

And as for the worst diary ever (if only because of the comments):
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/story/2006/3/25/114336/023

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 12:28 AM PST up reply actions

Oz: I'm shocked,

shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

:Your winnings, sir.

Oz: Oh, thank you very much.

Check out the future Mrs. Devo's campaign ...

by devo on Mar 27, 2006 9:09 AM PST reply actions

Thanks.

On the downside, I'll never coach a Major League team again, and be shunned for the Hall of Fame.

But look at all these pretty pennies!

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 9:33 AM PST up reply actions

Wow, this thread really exploded.

Funny how the Rev is so lonely he's coming over here to post and try to make friends...

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Mar 27, 2006 9:34 AM PST reply actions

All right, we get the point

People here don't like the Rev. HH is a really nasty place. Ew. Okay. Can we please get over it now? And isn't making a diary attacking the Rev and then firmly, constantly, and sometimes rudely defending your point exactly what the Rev does often? Also, I believe attacking another member of AN (shocker!) is against the Community Guidelines...but maybe there's a fine print that says the Rev is an exception. Whatever. I really don't think we need diary after diary talking about how much so-and-so hates the Rev and how terrible HH is. I agree, yeah, but let's just get over it and talk about the A's, since this is actually an A's blog.

by Squeaky on Mar 27, 2006 10:13 AM PST reply actions

With respect...

..if it was just the Rev is a dufus, I'd agree with you. The bigger point being made is about the ethics of banning someone you disagree with, and deleting posts that make fun of you, or disprove your point, or disagree with you.

The rest is just silliness. Rev can say what he wants, and I'd like to think I can go and refute what he says without being deleted for doing so, just as he can come here and say that Zito is a poopyhead and not be deleted for saying so.

It honestly isn't about personalities. It's about ethics.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 11:07 AM PST up reply actions

I agree with what you're saying HOz,

but I also think you are the best publicity agent the Rev could ever hope for.

by Nico on Mar 27, 2006 11:43 AM PST up reply actions

If his daily traffic were to triple..

..his blog is still a whopping failure.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 12:01 PM PST up reply actions

Agreed

and the larger point is, I really wanted to read the deleted 30 posts. I'm sure they were a good laugh.

Anychance you'd share them with the Nation, Oz?

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Mar 27, 2006 12:17 PM PST up reply actions

Some of it was funny.

The rest was sad.

Some parahrasing:

Some guy: And that wasn't even the Cubs' best pitchers that one-hit the A's!

Me: That's true. And here's who they were pitching to:
Merrill
Scutaro
Wayment
Brown
Perry
Robnett
Rouse
Thomas
Gee. Fearsome lineup of AAA fill-ins, waiver pick-ups, and AA prospects there. Oakland fans must be trembling.

Rev: Here's the box score, where you can see what a liar this guy is.

Me: Uh, every name I mentioned is on that box score, Rev.
So, basically, Chavez, Bradley, Payton and Kielty had a bad day (though Kielty and Bradley each got 2 walks from 3 plate appearances), and a bunch of kids and roster filler scrubs were overmatched, ina spring training split squad game, and you think that means Oakland will fade in the stretch. Riiiiiight...

THREAD DELETED.

Then there was this:

Rev: Darin Erstad was the best CF in the league in 2002.

Me: Just as well, since his offensive line that year was .283/.313/.389 and he had nearly three times as many K's as walks. But hey, he has 'grit', isn't that what you people say?

Some guy: He said DEFENSIVE.

Me: He sure did, because the guy's offense is non-existent. But hey, he's a center fielder so that can be forgiven... oh wait! He played 1B for the last two years, didn't he? And hasn't hit more than 10 homeruns in a season since the turn of the century! Heck, you better give him a contract extension and tell me how Eric Chavez is overrated.

THREAD DELETED.

Then there was:

Rev: WEAK comeback.

Me: Oh, I get it! My nickname here is 'WEAK', and you said 'weak comeback"! Oh, that's comedy gold. I better write that one down. Will you be here all week? Should I tip my waiters? Maybe try the veal?

THREAD DELETED.

Rev: Why don't you tell that to Macha? Maybe he can wear the Connie Mack three-piece suit during games.

Me: Sure. Can I fire him first?

Rev: Geez, you hate me, and you hate your own manager. Wow, and people call me irrational and emotional.

Me: Yes, yes they do.
So let me get this straight, if I dislike two unrelated people who have never met each other, I'm irrational and emotional? What sort of logic is that? I'm thinking you probably hate both Hitler AND Stalin - does that make you irrational and emotional?

THREAD DELETED.

You get the idea.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 3:48 PM PST up reply actions

... he still couldn't drive it in

If you can't go to Harvard, you can always abuse the krazee wand. -- salb918 @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 27, 2006 12:18 PM PST up reply actions

as it was in the beginning,

is now, and ever shall be, world without end.

AMEN

Stick a fork in it, this thread is done.

<<-THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED->>

by secret ASian man on Mar 27, 2006 11:45 AM PST reply actions

ashes to ashes

dust to dust

Why is everyone throwing chairs? -KendallGurl18

by ArakSOT on Mar 27, 2006 11:47 AM PST up reply actions

he

must be Rex Hudler...it just has to be!

But if your life is such a big joke, then why should I care?

by johnspaz7 on Mar 27, 2006 3:52 PM PST reply actions

hi guys!

i just thought i'd come over from HH & see what all the fuss is about. wow, you guys are busy! oz, it sounds like you're a little upset. why is that? do you need a teddy bear?

yes, i'm an angels fan, and yes i think they will win the division this year. but one thing i think we can all agree on is that this will be yet another tight race. the A's and Rangers appeared to improve on paper in the offseason, while the Angels did a kind of shape-shifting, and they'll rely on some highly touted but unproven talent, in addition to a few aging put professional hitters.

if nothing else, all this AN-HH riffraff serves to heighten our teams' rivalry, which is great for baseball! i've never been so excited about the beginning of baseball, and i think SBNation has been a big part of that. thanks guys!

by yeswecan @ Athletics Nation on Mar 27, 2006 3:55 PM PST reply actions

Hello, Yeswecan

Welcome to AN. Personally, I enjoy reading input from fans of other teams.

"Put a Milo on him." -Billy Beane

by kaweahkaweah on Mar 27, 2006 4:40 PM PST up reply actions

No teddy bear required.

Unless he wears an Angels shirt and does backflips on the Jumbotron. That's this year's merchandising ploy, isn't it? The Rally Teddy.

You could roll him out when Erstad has K'd for his third time by the fifth inning and Bartolo's colon has finally given way, spilling six days worth of chocolate and nachos across Row 17.

It'd really give the fans a boost!

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 4:52 PM PST up reply actions

I'd like to see Krazy Anna Benson ...

... wearing the Rally Teddy.

If you can't go to Harvard, you can always abuse the krazee wand. -- salb918 @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 27, 2006 4:58 PM PST up reply actions

I'd like to see Krazy Anna Benson ...

... wearing the Rally kaweahkaweah.

"Put a Milo on him." -Billy Beane

by kaweahkaweah on Mar 27, 2006 4:59 PM PST up reply actions

literalizing the metaphor, wouldn't that mean ...

bANnEd!

If you can't go to Harvard, you can always abuse the krazee wand. -- salb918 @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 27, 2006 5:13 PM PST up reply actions

Maybe I'll get all my HH nicknames...

..and then they and Kaweahkaweah can go to Banned Camp.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 5:20 PM PST up reply actions

I disagree ...

I'm not talkin shit, I just really don't think the Angels are going to be very good and I think the A's will clinch by mid-September.

Check out the future Mrs. Devo's campaign ...

by devo on Mar 27, 2006 5:15 PM PST up reply actions

that's cool

i don't think you're talking shit at all. while i disagree with you, i think you might acknowledge that it will be a close race and that both of our teams are vulnerable to the DL taking a bite out of our collective asses. injuries might have a bigger impact than we've anticipated.

by yeswecan @ Athletics Nation on Mar 27, 2006 6:21 PM PST up reply actions

I think injuries will probably decide

the AL West, and I think those who believe the A's (or Angels) will run away with the division are going to be disappointed. I'd say close race, advantage A's, lo-o-ong way to go.

by Nico on Mar 27, 2006 6:31 PM PST up reply actions

Bubble wrap -- more important to our chances

than Huston?

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Mar 27, 2006 6:42 PM PST up reply actions

I wonder if Rev is my brother-in-law

Rev, do you live in Long Beach by any chance?

by easyraider on Mar 27, 2006 4:04 PM PST reply actions

Nope, I live in the barrio

Hey, now that this diary is down to the bottom, could someone else go off on me and make a big whiney deal, as AN traffic to HH was 40% of my audience esterday and is only 19% today.

Thanks.

by RevHalofan on Mar 27, 2006 4:11 PM PST up reply actions

Santa Ana?

That is were I work.

by easyraider on Mar 27, 2006 4:15 PM PST up reply actions

East L.A.

homes.

by RevHalofan on Mar 27, 2006 4:22 PM PST up reply actions

You have to do your part.

hey, here's an idea: Ban someone for disagreeing with you. That ought to do it.

I mean, it's not like you'd have to stretch from your usual habits of changing posts, deleting posts, changing polls, changing diaries, editing your own posts and inciting fights that your delicate constitution can't handle finishing.

Oh, hey, here's another idea - build an Angels blog populated by actual Angels fans. That'd be novel.

I believe you'll find several of them at The Onion, where they're presently cruising for baseball news, wondering just why it is that Ichiro went off on the M's management.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 4:55 PM PST up reply actions

I think the Rev is EVERYONE's brother-in-law

If you can't go to Harvard, you can always abuse the krazee wand. -- salb918 @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 27, 2006 4:15 PM PST up reply actions

I see him more as the inapropriate drunk uncle.

..who gets a little too touchy with the young ones and 'doesn't remember' the next day.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 4:49 PM PST up reply actions

Oz, it might be time to drop it.

We all know about Rev., and personally, I couldn't care much less about him or his blog, we all KNOW this one is the best. Sometimes, you gotta take the high road, and I think this is one of those times. I know what it's like when someone gets under your skin, but you can't lower yourself to his level. You'd better check yourself before that happens.

"Without steroids... 40 is the new 70." - socal

by McFood on Mar 27, 2006 5:10 PM PST up reply actions

Respectfully heard, and also denied.

Foodo, I'm having a blast with this, man. Don't get the mistaken idea that I'm sitting at home pounding my keyboard like the guy below.

Ridiculing half wits is, like, my most favorite thing ever.

Every time the Rev says something dumb, and I reply to him with something witty, and he doesn't reply because he's got nothing, an Angel gets its wings.

Of course, the Angel in question would be Bartolo Colon, and the wings would be of the Buffalo variety.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 5:17 PM PST up reply actions

"Honest, officer, I'm not stalking her"

"I just thought you'd want to know what kind of sick and illegal stuff I found in her trash can. And in her trash at work. And at her new boyfriend's house."

Defeat d'Anaheim!

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 27, 2006 5:23 PM PST up reply actions

<snerk>

If you can't go to Harvard, you can always abuse the krazee wand. -- salb918 @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 27, 2006 5:29 PM PST up reply actions

it is really quite flattering

you are all so kind and attentive.

it isn't like I planned any of this either, oh no.

by RevHalofan on Mar 27, 2006 5:32 PM PST up reply actions

Yeah, right.

You planned to ban a few A's fans and delete a whole wack of posts that make fun of you.

Of course you did.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 6:03 PM PST up reply actions

To be honest, HOz,

I have no doubt that Rev's goal was to rile up AN users and create lots of attention on a site that has many more visitors than his own. And I have absolutely no doubt that he has succeeded. You may have won the battle and lost the war.

by Nico on Mar 27, 2006 6:20 PM PST up reply actions

Personally

I don't think that a few hundred folks going over there to laugh at him, or shake their head at how messed up the site is, is winning him much of anything beyond derision.

I noticed that today he put up a poll for "your favorite Oakland Athletic", to support his new piece of reverse psychology, that it was all a cunning ruse to get people here to go there, but the reality is that's damage control.

He's been called out. he had to defend himself. He failed.

The rest is nothing more than playing tag in the smoldering ruins after the apocalypse - making the best he can out of a really bad situation.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 6:48 PM PST up reply actions

Of course, the other side of it is...

..he got me onto the recommended list.

Ha!

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 27, 2006 6:50 PM PST up reply actions

Shows how much you know

I genuflect to your brilliance oh OZ, but you lost the war...

SBNation advertisers look at which sites get the most traffic and some only go with the blogs getting more hits and/or heavy near-term traffic... and that would be me... and all because of you.

You put money in my pocket. Thanks, dude.

I'll be baiting the hook all season kids. Feel free to bite, just check the damn link first!

by RevHalofan on Mar 27, 2006 8:52 PM PST up reply actions

Don't kid yourself.

If you believed your own excuses for one second, you wouldn't bait A's fans, you'd host topless pictures of Natalie Portman.

Either way, from here on, whenever I point out your lameness, I'll be sure to just cut n'paste, rather than link to it. You know, just in case 17 hits is going to somehow make you wealthy enough to buy a Ford Explorer and a large city in Guam.

And hey, thanks for bowing to my greatness. It's about time you paid homage.

Then again, you bow in homage to Mr Erstad, so maybe it's best you keep your genuflections to yourself. Don't wanna be tarred with his brush.

Don't you miss the days of martinis and greenies?

by Ozzz on Mar 28, 2006 12:28 AM PST up reply actions

Rev loses the war

Personally, I will never go to the Angels site while he is in charge. However, I would occasionally do so if someone else was in charge and there was some meaningful content to read. I would guess that this view is not to dissimilar to those of others here at AN. In other words, Rev may gain a few "hits" now (and it will likely grow old very quickly) but would gain more if the site were better run. So I think HOz drew blood, Rev won a small battle, but he is the one who will lose the war.

I would also like to hear Blez's serious view on the deleting and changing of posts by the moderator. Personally I find this unacceptable.

by Larry E on Mar 28, 2006 7:21 AM PST up reply actions

Amen, LarryE

Why chase ambulances before you've tried just being a reputable attorney? I think a moderator should at least try intelligent commentary and discussion before resorting to "shock jock" efforts to build traffic.

I think Rev's approach will build some temporary "rubber-necking" traffic, but how many people do you know who will camp out at accident sites for the long haul?

by Nico on Mar 28, 2006 8:33 AM PST up reply actions

Ah, a true L.A. Angel

I used to work in El Monte.
I am a SoCaler from H.B. with a deep hatred (but also respect) for the Halos.
Maybe I'll see you at the Big A when the A's are in town. I'll be the one wearing the 'Walk Off Drop' shirt.

by easyraider on Mar 27, 2006 4:30 PM PST reply actions

the other LAA fan in LA

when i moved to east LA in 2000, i met a neighbor, Madam Rev, who was sporting an Angels hat. of course, in 2000 there weren't many angels fans -- especially in Los Angeles -- so i thought he was being ironic. when i asked "hey man, what's with the hat -- are you really an angels fan?" to which he replied by lifting his sleeve to reveal an old-school angels tatoo on his arm. we've been friends ever since.

by yeswecan @ Athletics Nation on Mar 27, 2006 4:41 PM PST up reply actions