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DLD 12/4/06--Making Beane Work Harder

The Hot Stove Season is into full swing with the start of this week's winter GM meetings.  For updates on events as they happen, tune into ESPN's live coverage, as well as Rotoworld's.

One update from Jayson Stark in the aforementioned ESPN coverage that's worth noting--the Angels are now also "kicking the tires" on Mike Piazza:

While the A's and Rangers are still Mike Piazza's chief pursuers, there were rumblings Monday that the Angels had also kicked the tires on Piazza, who is expected to sign with one of those clubs sometime this week.

Since the start of this offseason, the Rangers appear to have realized that getting in on players that interest the A's is a good idea, because driving up their price exacerbates the A's competitive weakness in the market--the ability to pay big bucks.  Not surprisingly, it appears the Angels might now be figuring this out as well.  Really, it's a bit surprising our competition has taken this long to figure this out.  I wouldn't be surprised if we hear chatter from the Mariners, Angels or Rangers about Cliff Floyd as well as the week progresses.

Beane says the A's don't really need much anyway:

``The good thing, as anyone who follows our team closely or anybody who is a close fan of our team should realize, is that we don't have much to do,'' Beane said. ``Most of our team is already in place.''

Well, I agree it would take a fan to realize that replacing Frank Thomas, Jay Payton, and Barry Zito "isn't much to do."  If we can take what he's saying at face value, it looks like just one free-agent signing is in out future this offseason, and we should expect Dan Johnson and Daric Barton to be non-Gintered this offseason.

In former Athletic hot stove news, Jose Guillen's deal with the Mariners has been finalized.  It's not quite as attractive as previously reported, since he gets a little more money than previously thought ($5.5M), and a lot more if he has a typical Jose Guillen season ($3M in incentives).  Also, there is a $9M mutual option for next year, with a $500K buyout.  That said, I'm impressed with this move by the Mariners.  When you think about the money the A's are rumored to be offered for aging/damaged players on a one-year basis, Guillen at slightly less money looks awfully attractive.

Meanwhile, the Red Sox may end up with a bullpen that could be called the Oakland A's Closer Alumni Association, as both Keith Foulke and Octavio Dotel could wind up in the Sox's pen next year.  

I've said this before, but I'll say it again--Huston Street could potentially have enormous trade value in a market like these, where set-up men are commanding three-year deals at $6M/per.  What about giving the Devil Rays a call?  They have a surplus of outfielders, and we need outfielders.  They also don't have anything that resembles a closer, and lost an awful lot of games last year because of their bullpen.  This article speculates on a Baldelli for Blanton and Windsor trade; I don't know if Baldelli is the spare outfielder they have that I'd want, but Tampa's deep farm system and OF talent seem like a very good trading match for the A's.

There are still two, um, interesting free-agents out there that want to play next year, and might have a shot if Nathaniel Hawthorne were resurrected and given an expansion franchise.  In an interview on "Outside The Lines," Sammy Sosa expressed his desire to play next year, and offered up his opinions on Mark McGwire's HOF chances:

"I love Mark McGwire. Everybody knows that I have so much respect for Mark. But I'm not gonna speak for Mark McGwire. I'm nobody," Sosa said. "I have so much problems in my life to try and think about somebody else, but my opinion I think there was a few questions they [Congress] was asking Mark that [McGwire] should have answered a different way. That's my opinion now. On the other side, the Hall of Fame is a Hall of Fame for me regardless, no matter what happened."

I was going to point out that Sosa was also criticized for his handling of those proceedings because he hired an interpreter, but the quote above pretty much explains that choice.

Rafael Palmeiro also wants to play next year.  If either of them really think they have a chance, I'm surprised they're not playing winter ball for someone.  They both need to prove they can still play.

That's plenty of links to dump for now.  I hope to see some A's-related news added later...

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Are Texas/Anaheim REALLY interested in Piazza?
Yes, why wouldn't they be?
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Beane is misleading people.
He knows he has to do something; there's no way we win the West next year without making some adjustments. This is just spin-doctoring. No way you lose Frank Thomas and Barry Zito without adding anybody and yet "don't have much to do". Unless he's not planning on winning too many games next year.

by Philip Christy on Dec 4, 2006 10:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Compared to other years, when he had to shed
Salary, like the Mulder, Hudson trades, and replace them, this year is a cake walk.  He has almost every position filled with adequate players.  If DJ could be the consistent 1st basemen, the only postion we are lacking is DH with Swish back in the OF.  

by theblackpearl on Dec 4, 2006 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
Lots of "adequate" players. Adequate, in this case, means 3rd place in the West in '07.
  We need an upgrade in LF, and if thats Swisher then we need a 1B. We have no DH, no #2 starter, a questionable closer, and little, if any pitching depth.  Fix it, Billy.
This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings. ~Bill Veeck

by Steve in Napa on Dec 4, 2006 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't hold your breath..
..with every new deal that is announced this off-season, it's clear that the new 'undervalued' asset is homegrown talent.

If Beane is going to make any deal (beyond Piazza), it's going to be for prospects.

"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Dec 4, 2006 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"homegrown" talent
You mean like Haren?
I can smell Febreze @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I sure don't mean..
..Bill.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Dec 4, 2006 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some disagreement
If Swisher goes to left and Johnson gets another shot at first, the only positions that are real problems are center (I don't think a lot of people appreciate what a lousy player Kotsay has become), DH and catcher. So the easiest way to get up to average offensively will be to upgrade at the holes.

Finding a good catcher this offseason will be impossible, but if the rumored Piazza deal goes down, that will alleviate the problem (say he gets 30 games behind the plate) and also put less pressure on the team to find a DH.

Then there is the problem of Kotsay. He's a 31-year-old double-play machine with a bad back and a .718 OPS. There is potential for a huge diaster there (I would call his 2006 season and 1.8 WARP a medium-sized diaster). Bradley can play center, and well, so we really just need any outfielder. If we get Floyd or (pleasepleaseplease) Barry Bonds, that should be enough to put Oakland in the top third in the league in runs scored, which should be enough to win the division with an above-average staff and bullpen. So the rumored moves are right for us and necessary.

As for what to do with Kotsay after the team gets three major-league caliber outfielders, I would suggest Billy tell him he's taking him for a camping trip and then ditch him. And, no matter how hard it may be, ignore him if he starts howling.

by yarky on Dec 4, 2006 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OT: Stanford fires Walt Harris
Just two seasons into his five-year deal, he's gone.  I'm very surprised, since he hasn't really coached a team he's recruited yet.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 10:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Bond's doesn't like white......
Shoes that is.

* One agent in the lobby of the Walt Disney Swan and Dolphin Resort predicted that Mike Piazza will wind up in Oakland despite his recent dalliance with Texas, in large part because Piazza would prefer to remain in California. The agent also said that Barry Bonds would much rather stay in San Francisco than sign with Oakland. "He doesn't want to drive across the Bay, he doesn't want to play in a dilapidated stadium, and he doesn't want to wear the white shoes," the agent said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2685697

by theblackpearl on Dec 4, 2006 11:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

LOL
The reasons players will come up with to hide their desire to get the biggest check possible never fail to amaze me.  Next we'll hear Barry Zito say he wants to sign with Colorado because he knocked up some starlet, and needs good schools available.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

... or he wants to vote for Tom Tancredo
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with white shoes..
..is when the needle drips, it stains them.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Dec 4, 2006 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember that BART ad from last year?
The one that went something like....
"Coach, coach, coach!"
"What, what, what?"
"HE -- isn't here."
"Why not?"
"He's stuck on the bridge."
"WHAT!  Haven't I told you all -- take BART if you want to be on time...."

Who knew the HE would turn out to be Bonds?

"I had to turn my weaknesses into my strengths." -- Milton Bradley, October 6, 2006

by Englishmajor on Dec 4, 2006 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love that commercial
What do I always say?
Winning is everything, Coach?
No! Take BART when you want to be on time.

by H3liCat on Dec 4, 2006 6:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to believe
at least the "dilapidated stadium" part, given that Bonds played most of his career in Three Rivers Stadium and then at Candlestink Park.

We're supposed to believe that Bonds would rather retire and not break the HR record than wear white shoes and play at the Coliseum. Yeah, right.

MJB

by MJB on Dec 4, 2006 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Guess he doesn't want to wear the rings, either.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Dec 4, 2006 5:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 7:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Barton for Duke
I think the A's should pull the trigger on that one if it is really out there. Especially if Blanton and Windsor could fetch Baldelli.

Play Baldelli in left this year and move him to center next year. By then Buck, Robnett, Herrera, or even Putnam can take over in left.

I think a Duke and Baldelli is far greater than Blanton, Windsor and Barton. Swish is every bit the player Barton may be. And having Duke a lefty is equal to Blanton plus having a #3 starter as a lefty is huge.

Make a splash BB.  

by Bud Light on Dec 4, 2006 11:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Baldelli's not really our type, is he?
74 walks in 1519 career ABs. However, the price is definitely right, and if he has good defense (I have no idea), then this would probably be a good trade.

by Philip Christy on Dec 4, 2006 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's an excellent defender.
Offense-wise, he seems to be a faster Jay Payton, although since he's just 25, the uptick he showed in power last year might be a trend, rather than a mirage.

Last year:

.306/.339/.533 in 364 ABs (92 games), with 16HR, 57RBI, and 10 steals in 11 tries.

"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Baldelli worth a try but can be had 4less
His contract is no gamble if he fell apart:
07:$0.75M
08:$2.25M
09:$6M club option ($4M buyout)
10:$8M club option,
11:$9M club option ($2M buyout - 2010 & 2011 options must be exercised together)

$4M escalator if Baldelli has 600 Plate Appearances in 2006
$1.75M in 2007, increasing 07 salary to $2.5M
$2.25M in 2008, increasing 08 salary to $4M
performance bonuses for 2007 & 2008 if Baldelli fails to reach 600 PAs in 2006

may earn as much as $32M from 2006 to 2011

A's signing Embry frees up pitching for trades
Embry as LOOGY allows BB to trade a lefty: Kennedy, Halsey, or Flores and we are already thick with righties.
Blanton's starts are too important to A's to be trading with Z-Man gone and Harden questionable.

What about Harden & Street for Crawford?

by Billy Ball 2005 on Dec 4, 2006 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Baldelli already missed the escalator
So no need to worry about that.  Crawford would not be worth that kind of talent, because he becomes a free agent too soon for it to be worth it.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The numbers game & I favor Rocco or Church
But for the heck of it:

Crawford
07:$4M,
08:$5.25M,
09:$8.25M club option ($2.5M buyout),
10:$10M club option ($1.25M buyout)
2010 salary may increase to $11.5M with incentivex
assignment bonus of up to $0.8M if traded

by Billy Ball 2005 on Dec 4, 2006 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had no idea
that Crawford was that affordable--I had thought he was supposed to be an FA after this year or next, for some reason.  At those prices, he's still worth talking about.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Harden and Street for Crawford?
Are you on crack? What good is a speedy outfielder on a team that doesn't steal bases.

by jjham15 on Dec 5, 2006 7:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's more than a speedy outfielder
He has a lot of pop in his bat, if not enough patience.  He's also 25, and cheap.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 5, 2006 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One of these players has the ability to
be a super star sooner than the others.

One of these players can up the A's level of play now.

Harden's 4 seasons
72 starts not 120
30-16 =7.5 wins per season
3.67 ERA

Duke had 9 convincing saves last year

Crawford is approaching stardom and of these 3 would have the greater impact considering Duke & Calero can both close and we would only be replacing 9 starts by Harden.

If we can get more great! Get Baldelli or Upton and Crawford.

by Billy Ball 2005 on Dec 5, 2006 8:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Three Way
Could be a three-way deal with the Bucs and DRays.  Wouldn't be upset if we end up with Baldelli, but I'll cross my fingers it's for one of the other 47 outfielders on the DRays.  Crawford in left sure would look good.  And we know he's okay wearing the white shoes...
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Dec 4, 2006 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

totally agree
Baldelli would be a perfect fit on our DL
Beane's World!! Excellent!!! Rock On, Beane! Rock On, Geren!

by Satchmo22 on Dec 4, 2006 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did I miss something?
Where did you read the Zach Duke/Daric Barton theory?
This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Dec 4, 2006 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no, justin duke
the rivercats are willing to give us barton if we send down the duke.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 4, 2006 9:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A combination
of a rumor from mlbtraderumors.com, and an idea I floated to walk off bunt in the Embree diary.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 5, 2006 8:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nice work, jeeps
should hit 100, easily
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is embarassing

by ArakSOT on Dec 4, 2006 11:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's what Esteban tells me
Wait--you WERE talking about my car, weren't you?
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sunk costs vs 'psychological entrapment'
Ignore the, shall we say, "topical" aspects of this and focus on the implications for decision-making.

<stares at grover, twiddles thumbs>

People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 11:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, we should trade Kotsay to the Cubs
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking we should trade Kots to ...
... al Qaida. They seem to favor overpaid, physically incapacitated players with limited mobility.
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm having this problem with my wife's Volvo
It's funny that your article opens with the succession of car breakdowns metaphor.  The Alameda Aphid taught me that phenomenon is called having a car "go Vietnam on you," where every time and money sucking repair job only gives rise another one, and once you've gone that far...

Works on pigeons at the poker table too.

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" --Johnny Rotten

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 4, 2006 12:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

with your wife's WHAT?
IIRC, didn't Nixon have a secret plan to get out of your wife's Volvo?
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 12:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's a secret taping system joke
in there somewhere.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

there's probably a good 'Plumbers' joke, too
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

...and a break and enter joke.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Dec 4, 2006 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Two midgets walk into the Brookings Institute...
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Dec 4, 2006 2:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oddly enough
I just watched Oliver Stone's Nixon for the first time last night.  I love how the one who responds to mention of Nixon's secret plan in the film is J. Edgar Hoover.

Choppy movie, but Anthony Hopkins paints a great Nixon.

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" --Johnny Rotten

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 4, 2006 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're already done watching it?
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that's my favorite Stone movie
I think it's his masterpiece, really. And, yeah, Hopkins is fantastic, in a bit of casting that just shouldn't work but somehow does. What's more, Stone had the gonzo gall to cast The Man Who Was Born To Play Richard Nixon (Dan Hedaya, who did, finally, in Dick -- which is even more genius than Stone's movie) as ... Bebe Rebozo.

(And, yes, if I had directed the movie, I would have cast Bobby Kielty as Rebozo.)

People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Domo arigato, Mr Ronaldo.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Dec 4, 2006 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless you or your mechanic are Vietnamese
Then you call it "going American on you".
"I had to turn my weaknesses into my strengths." -- Milton Bradley, October 6, 2006

by Englishmajor on Dec 4, 2006 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why you eyeballing me?
I done said my piece.
This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Dec 4, 2006 4:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you done said your piece ...
... as well as those of a dozen men twice your size.
I can smell Febreze @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 5:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Then lock your steely gaze on Billy Beane
He's the one that needs his thinking changed.

And I resent the implication that you could find a dozen men twice my size.

This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Dec 4, 2006 5:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Opening Day Countdown
This is cool... Just in case you're looking WAY ahead (off-season blues?), Lone Star Ball has a countdown clock to Opening Day.
Blez, could we have one of those?

Countdown clock here: ="http://www.lonestarball.com"

by streetfan on Dec 4, 2006 12:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Rotoworld article is very interesting
I'd love to add Pat the Bat for Shane "Long Reliever" Komine, even if we had to cover his whole salary.  The guy can mash, plus he's a RH hitter, which we need.  If we could honestly get Baldelli and Burrell with only giving up Blanton and two long relievers (Komine and Windsor), those deals are no brainers.  Baldelli would cost us $9 million over the next three years, with $6 millon of that in a 2009 option.  He has two options years in 2010 and 2011, at $8 and $9 million respectively, or a $2 million buyout.  Both options must be picked up or declined at the same time.

As for Barton for Zach Duke, I'm not so sure.  I'd rather try DJ for Paul Maholm if possible.  Burrell at DH would give Barton at least a year and a half in AAA to get ready for the bigs, and hopefully develop some more power.  Interesting moves we could make here, I hope BB gets moving.

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Dec 4, 2006 12:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You might be right on Duke
If the Pirates like DJ, and would give us Maholm for him, that would work at least as well for me.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also
I'd be willing to move Barton if we could get Ian Snell from Pittsburgh.  I'd have no problem throwing in Casilla also, or a similar minor league arm.  He's more of the power arm I'd like to see us add.
"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Dec 4, 2006 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If we did that deal...
...you just know that Barton would hit three dingers in his first three ML games, and then half of AN would declare that Beane has lost it and can't trade for shit anymore.

See Ethier, Andre.

"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Dec 4, 2006 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I somehow missed this tidbit
in Mychael Urban's recent pre-Winter Meetings write-up:
But Johnson's future with Oakland is far from secure. Beane has said he might look outside the organization for a starter to replace Zito, and because Oakland's top hitting prospect, Daric Barton, is a first baseman, Johnson could be among the players dangled as trade bait.

Barton, 21, batted .316 at Double-A Midland in 2005 and had his 2006 season at Triple-A Sacramento interrupted by an elbow fracture. Does Barton have a shot at making the big-league club this spring?

"Yes," Forst said.

I'm glad to hear it.  Assuming we're only going to sign one guy to replace Payton and Thomas, spring training next year can and should involve a competition between DJ and Barton for the remaining open spot.

"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't read too much into it
Barton's obviously very talented and if he comes out looking good in spring training, why wouldn't they give him a shot? But I doubt it's in the team's plans in any serious way.

by yarky on Dec 4, 2006 3:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

<takes detailed notes>
Man, I wish I'd had the chance to write this article.  Patrick Hruby plays it too straight (and has no excuse, either, since he wrote almost the same article four years ago).  But anyway, Hruby spends a day with ex-Phanatic turned mascot coach Dave Raymond.  My character is more anti-hero than Raymond, who is a serious fellow who subscribes to the method for mascots.  Mine's more Krusty the Klown than Robert De Niro.  But there are some useful insights here.

The sidebar piece has a list of mascot mishaps, which aren't as funny as they should be.  And they left out the one where the costume head of the Florida Marlin fell off while he was parachuting into the ballpark.

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" --Johnny Rotten

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 4, 2006 12:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

new sig line!
So, if the Gorilla is in the MHOF, then trampolines don't count as performance-enhancing devices?
I can smell Febreze @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fun read!
Dave Raymond sounds like an interesting guy.  He has the grit of a Darin Erstad, who may now have found his post-baseball calling:
Raymond could have done it, too. Could have gathered his 5-foot-10 frame - still solid from his years as a college football punter - and plowed the portly Dodgers' skipper right into the artificial Veterans Stadium turf, struck a blow for picked-on mascots everywhere. Coulda, woulda, shoulda ...
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we have a new hitting coach!
press release.
OAKLAND -- The Oakland A's today named Ty Van Burkleo as their hitting coach for the 2007 season.

Van Burkleo comes to the A's from the Los Angeles Angels organization where he was the minor league roving hitting instructor for the past six seasons. He began his coaching career as a player/coach for the Angels at Single-A Lake Elsinore in 1996 and also spent four seasons as a minor league coach in the Arizona Diamondbacks organization from 1997-2000.

by gotgreen on Dec 4, 2006 12:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Who is this guy?
What's the scoop on this guy?

by oaklandbbfan on Dec 4, 2006 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great!
And his name is just like Oakland's neighbor, Berkeley. O.
Kinda?

by streetfan on Dec 4, 2006 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So much for Chili Davis
"People who can, hit.  People who can't, teach," seems to be the profile for some successful hitting coaches.  Van Burkleo's got that licked:
Van Burkleo played professionally for 14 seasons from 1981-1994, including Major League stints with California in 1993 and Colorado in 1994. He batted .152 with one home run in 12 games with the Angels in 1993 and also went 0 for 5 in two games with the Rockies in 1994.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Made Up
That sounds like a made up name.  I would like to see a picture of this guy to make sure he's real.  Could just be a cardboard cut out of Billy with a tape recorder that says: swing at strikes, take balls, keep that elbow up...
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Dec 4, 2006 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At first
I thought the dude from "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" was making a career change.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's a native
We seem to like to bring back the local boys.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Van_Burkleo

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Dec 4, 2006 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm....he's from Oakland....
And more from Wikipedia

Tyler Lee Van Burkleo (born October 7, 1963 in Oakland, California) is a former first baseman in Major League Baseball. He played for two different major league teams in his career: the California Angels (1993) and Colorado Rockies (1994). He also played two teams in Japan the Seibu Lions and Hiroshima Toyo Carp.

At the plate he was 5-for-38, a .132 batting average. His one home run was hit on August 16, 1993 against Detroit Tigers right-hander Bill Gullickson. In the field, he handled 118 chances without an error for a fielding percentage of 1.000.

Van Burkleo played the last of his 14 Major League Baseball games on July 30, 1994.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Dec 4, 2006 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh, wouldn't it be more fun
if he were from Fremont?
"The hard... is what makes it great."

by Jjjsixsix on Dec 4, 2006 5:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How valuable are professional basketball players?
http://www.economist.com/debate/freeexchange/2006/12/how_valuable_are_professional.cfm

a sports economics blog:
http://dberri.wordpress.com/

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 4, 2006 12:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

zito rumor update
The Rangers are making a major push for free-agent left-hander Barry Zito, major league sources say, and continue to negotiate with free-agent right-hander Vicente Padilla.

Zito, 28, could end up with a six-year, $102 million deal, a $17 million average that no team, including the Mets, likely would match.

from ken rosenthal.

by gotgreen on Dec 4, 2006 1:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If they get both
My up-to-the-minute order of finish in the AL West next year would be as follows:

Anaheim
Texas
Oakland
Seattle

"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tough Call for Zito
He will have to decided whether to take the money and let his performance take an absolute beating (I'd predict a 5.00+ ERA in at least three of those six years) or take less money (maybe as much as $3-4MM/year) for a team with a ballpark that doesn't turn lazy flyballs into home runs.

BTW, did we ever put a deal on the table for him?  With the soft market that has developed for him, could we sign him for 4/55 or 5/65 (putting aside questions of whether that is the smart thing to do)?  

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Dec 4, 2006 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not that I've heard
But I wonder if that might be better than spending ca. $12M per each year over the next four or five years on stop-gap offensive players.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

why would the a's spend
$12m per year for 4-5 years on stop-gap offensive players?  just because we did it last year (thomas made well under 12 million) and we may do it again this year doesn't mean we're going to do it every year.

barton was supposed to be ready by this year, but he lost pretty much all of last year to a freak injury.  he still may be ready, but even if he's not, next year we should see both barton and buck.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 4, 2006 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well
I'd count Payton for last year, too.  That still falls well under $12M (a total of $7.1M), but it's closer.

The pieces stand a good chance of continuing to disappear from year-to-year for a while (Bradley and Kendall next year, Kotsay and perhaps Ellis the year after).  It's certainly possible that the prospect pipeline could keep up with that, but it's also possible that the A's could end up spending the way I mention from year-to-year as well.

"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Zito
How effective is it for the Rangers to spend 17-Million on Zito, and approx. 11-12 Million/Year on Padilla, and 12-Million/Year on Millwood?  The only consistent guy is Zito, and we all know his story.
  • Millwood turns 32 in 20 Days.  He's had an injured past.
  • Padilla turns 30 next year.  Another guy with a checkered medical history.
How can the Rangers afford Michael Young, TEX, Blalock in the near future?

This is Crazy, This is Crazy, This is Crazy.

by Colorado Fan on Dec 4, 2006 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Different payrolls.
The Rangers have a lot of money.  If they don't have to worry much about cost-effectiveness, then they might as well go with a rotation of Zito, Millwood, and Padilla--what's another few million to them?  Becoming a playoff team, which they could do with that kind of pitching and Ron Washington instead of Showalter, would bring them a lot of money in a media market as large as Dallas.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget personnel
Taking less money with the Mets would also allow him to be reunited with Rick Peterson....
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Dec 4, 2006 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Shea is moderately pitcher-friendly
I just wonder if he's got the following offers on the table which one he would take.

Texas 6 years/102MM ($17MM per) - most money but will likely ruin his long-term career prospects

Athletics 5 years/$65MM ($13MM per) - least per year money, but will keep him in pitcher-friendly park and with teammates that he (theoretically) likes

Mets 4 years/$56MM ($14MM per) - lowest total money, but puts him in the spotlight in a fair pitcher's park

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Dec 4, 2006 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's His Agent Again?
Texas would be a "Shoe-In"

by Colorado Fan on Dec 4, 2006 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt
You don't sign up with Scott Boras to do hometown discounts.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Zito at Ameriquest
FYI: Zito has very good career numbers in Arlington.

11-1, 3.75 era, 1.31 whip, .218baa

by Gene Nelsons Mullet on Dec 4, 2006 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A's should sign Padilla
Kendall will sharpen his pitch selection.
McAfee will contain some of those generous HRs he serves up,
and our defense might get him an out or two extra per game!

Zito vs Padilla match up anyone?

by Billy Ball 2005 on Dec 4, 2006 2:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Texas offering 3 years @ $10
Padilla's agent holding for 4 @ $10!

Forget it.

Zito must be worth $18 per!

by Billy Ball 2005 on Dec 4, 2006 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Worst...HOF vote column...ever
I'm not a big Gwen Knapp fan, because I don't find her interesting, whether I agree or not with any opinions she holds.  So I link her Sunday column here only to say:  man, what an awful opinion this is.  She's saying she'll vote for Ken Caminiti on her ballot because he came clean about his steroid use, making him "a pioneer for change."  But she won't vote for McGwire because he was evasive before Congress.

This sort of extended mental gymnastics is all about the voter's opinions and leaves the actual playing career by the wayside.  Anyone who is making decisions entirely based on post-playing days actions doesn't deserve a vote in my book.  Since we can never know for sure about anyone from these days, seems to me the only choices are:  a) Don't vote for anyone who played in the steroid era, ever, or b) evaluate everyone within the context of their time.  Like the Hall always has.

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" --Johnny Rotten

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 4, 2006 1:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I. Hate. Gwen. Knapp.
So does Pants Man at McCovey Chronicles.
I can smell Febreze @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoy deriving high self-esteem
From the  shortcomings of others.  On that note, I'd like to thank Gwen Knapp for writing that column, as it has provided me with a lot of undeserved-yet-fufilling glee.
"WTF is wrong with you people TASTELESS COMMENTS. I'm disgusted. Mocking a 10 year old's horrible painful death." --eshock

by rubin sierra on Dec 4, 2006 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.
I guess Jeremy Giambi is on his way to Cooperstown, too.  I don't agree with your premise that we can't take a case-by-case approach to considering character issues with players (as the HOF has also always done), but she's certainly a poster child for what can go wrong with considering steroid use and HOF induction.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe retired players who didn't even use roids
will start coming clean about their steroids use, just for the HoF votes.

i think there are other options besides those two:
vote against anyone who has a cloud of suspicion around their name, because of the damage that has does to baseball.  the suspicion may be wrong in some cases, but being in the HoF is a privilege and not a right, and it's tough to have sympathy for anyone who may be unfairly tainted when no player did much to try to clear their names (for example, mcgwire's in front of congress, or when sosa was asked to take a steroids test by that ass from SI and refused).

i'd pretty much vote against every power hitter from the last 15 years, except maybe griffey, thomas, and possibly piazza.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 4, 2006 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You are proving why
voting for the HOF with steroids in mind is unfair: You'd vote against every power hitter of the last 15 years?!? That is patently ridiculous. Why don't you go lock up every human being with Mideast origins as well, on the basis that they might be terrorists?!? It's the same damn thing. I hope you revise your thought process on this.

by Philip Christy on Dec 4, 2006 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

so then are we all in jail?
you're not going to the HoF, so we might as well lock you up as a terrorist, right?

the HoF is not a right (like, not being jailed when you've committed no crime), it's a privilege.
those with votes can vote against a player's induction to the HoF for any reason they believe to be valid.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 4, 2006 9:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!
I mean, uh TO JAIL!!!
I can smell Febreze @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 10:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a hunch monkeyball,
you'll be popular in the prison showers.
This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Dec 4, 2006 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

<points at monkeyball's charlie browns>
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 4, 2006 10:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that was an AD s2 "amigos" reference
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 4, 2006 10:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

au contraire, mon cher
Have you ever smelled wet monkey fur? Worse than the inside of Stomper's head after a 3-day pruno binge.
I can smell Febreze @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 5, 2006 9:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe
But you'd still be the closest thing to a loofa sponge available to the inmates.
This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Dec 5, 2006 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Answer: 13%
Question:  What percentage of Cincinnati Bengal players have been arrested in the last year?
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

More ESPN updates
Gammons sez:
* The Dodgers and Mariners are in the hunt for Manny Ramirez.
  • The Cubs are making a hard push for Ted Lilly. According to Steve Phillips, Lilly's agent will arrive later today.
  • The Giants worked out Octavio Dotel in the Domincan Republic last weekend. Eleven teams made offers, but the Giants weren't one of them.

This division is getting entirely too competitive for my tastes.

"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 1:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to have Duke
Perfect innings-eating, solid lefty replacement for Zito. I'd be willing to give up Daric "Mark Grace is your Upside" Barton for him. (Don't take that the wrong way, either. Grace was a very valuable player. I'd just rather, in this market, have the young starter, than the young slightly above average offensive first baseman.)

Baldelli would be interesting too, but it'd obviously be senseless unless Kotsay were moved (or Bradley? I'd doubt that though.)

Burrell at DH would make me a very very happy too. He'd be an ideal bat to replace Thomas I think.

there's simply no club like the white elephant club

by walk off bunt on Dec 4, 2006 1:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...
it appears that Swisher will be the A's first basemen (sooner, if not later), which leaves Barton out of the equation for that position.  That only leaves DH as an open position and his lack power will be an issue.  In some ways, Barton's value might be higher now than it will ever be and I have faith that Beane has made the proper evaluation.  If they can somehow manage to get Duke for Barton, Burrell for a Komine or Windsor (even nicer if Phils pay off a portion of the salary), Baldelli for Blanton, and dump Kotsay for prospects, followed by signings of Embree and a 4th outfielder it will be a very successful offseason.
Rotation:
Harden, Haren, Loaiza, Duke, Kennedy
BullPen:
Street, Duke, Calero, Halsey, Embree, Saarloos
1B - Swisher
2B - Ellis, Scutaro
SS - Crosby, Scutaro
3B - Chavez, Perez
C - Kendall, Melhuse
OF - Bradley, Baldelli, Kielty/4th OF
I think Beane will have some interesting options to mull once the FA feeding frenzy is over.  I also think he might bait the hook with one of his relievers to gauge what he could get in return.

by Miggy on Dec 4, 2006 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If all that happened
And it could (I'd give it less than 1% chance of happening, but it's not out of the realm of possibility entirely) I'd call it the best offseason I've ever witnessed as an A's fan. We'd be completely retooled for the next 2-3 seasons without really impacting the currently constructed team negatively at all.
there's simply no club like the white elephant club

by walk off bunt on Dec 4, 2006 5:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious Lookout Landing pic
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

(link)

"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 2:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Carpenter Extension
Carpenter got 5/65 out of the Cardinals.  I guess he has a soft spot for the team that gave him a chance.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2686240

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Dec 4, 2006 2:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Chris Carpenter, Meet Frank Thomas
Frank Thomas, Meet Chris Carpenter...

Only, Carpenter can really say, "I think the Cardinals give a great chance of winning a Championship"

by Colorado Fan on Dec 4, 2006 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

unbelievable
<registers www.firesabean.com>
"...we don't score six, seven runs. We score three, four runs and play defense and pitch" - Eric Chavez

by pickinmachine on Dec 4, 2006 3:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to see the Gnats
going ahead with that youth movement. That's really working out well.

Molina - 32
Aurilia - 35
Durham - 35
Roberts - 34
Feliz - 31(?)

Is Bonds not a foregone conclusion?

Cisco Kid was a friend of mine...Cisco Field, not so sure.

by haren4prez on Dec 4, 2006 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yep
if they sign Bonds then the team will actually have gotten older in terms of the postion players.

Winn - 32
Vizquel - 40
Bonds - 42

"...we don't score six, seven runs. We score three, four runs and play defense and pitch" - Eric Chavez

by pickinmachine on Dec 4, 2006 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They should sign Maddux
and complete the 40+ trifecta.
Cisco Kid was a friend of mine...Cisco Field, not so sure.

by haren4prez on Dec 4, 2006 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Giants
are going to be HORRIBLE for many years. Two years from now, everyone that's now in their starting lineup is going to be a fringe major leaguer. Anyone  think it's a coincidence that as soon as Bonds gets injured before 2005, the Giants can't win anymore? Sabean is looking more and more like a terrible GM. Too bad, he used to seem much more sensible.

by Philip Christy on Dec 4, 2006 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

billy will arrive in orlando on wednesday
Craig Landis, the agent for outfielder Jay Payton, plans to meet with Billy Beane when the A's general manager arrives in town Wednesday. With lots of left-handed bats available (Luis Gonzalez, Cliff Floyd and Aubrey Huff, to name a few), Payton wins points because he's right-handed and extremely versatile. He started 62 games in left field, 46 in center and 45 in right last year for Oakland. Baltimore might have some interest as well, but the cost-conscious Washington Nationals backed off Payton because they think he's too expensive.

link

by gotgreen on Dec 4, 2006 3:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather they talk to Detroit, and see what they
are asking for Monroe, than bother with Payton.

There's some buzz circulating that the Tigers might be willing to move outfielder Craig Monroe, who hit .255 with 28 homers in 147 games. The Tigers upgraded their offense recently with the addition of Gary Sheffield, and they need left-handed relief help with the departure of Jamie Walker through free agency.

by theblackpearl on Dec 4, 2006 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The only problem with Payton
... Is that he sucks almost as hard as Kotsay. Jesus Christ, how hard is it to find an outfielder with an .800 OPS?

by yarky on Dec 4, 2006 3:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unicorns!
here
I can smell Febreze @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 4, 2006 3:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

"IBM missiles sold seperately.'
when did big blue start making nuclear missiles?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 4, 2006 10:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

right after it beat Kasparov
Oh, wait. Wrong blue.
I can smell Febreze @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 5, 2006 9:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

'tis the season...
this looks fun
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is embarassing

by ArakSOT on Dec 5, 2006 7:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cock block
Anaheim doesn't really need Piazza, they're just trying to drive up his asking price and make Beane look elsewhere.

Think about it. The Angels aren't going to ask him to be their primary catcher and between Juan Rivera, Vlad and Garrett Anderson they've got two guys who'd be better served as the DH instead of playing in the field.

That leaves 1st base and Piazza hasn't spent a lot of time there. Plus the Angels still love their boy Kotchman.

Cock Block. This is payback for Billy jumping in on the Soriano trade talk at last year's deadline. The A's never had the horses to pull off a trade but it got Bowden all worked up to the point that he couldn't pull the trigger with the Angels.

This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Dec 4, 2006 4:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Piazza
Let the Angels drive up the price.  I would love to see them get stuck with Piazza saying, "Yes" to their offer.  The 5-3 groundball would be funny...Figgins throwing low to Piazza...Piazza trying to scoop...Piazza running after the ball down the rightfield line in the Coliseum...Pure Comedy!

I almost feel like we need to go with Barton/Kielty/Swisher Platoon at DH/LF.  Maybe grab a Dmitri Young or Matt Stairs for insurance.  That, or go the trade route.

Either way, I feel like management is on Page1 of a 5-Year Business Plan (aka, The Fremont Kids).  Going Young.  Draft Picks.  Using extra money (not used on Piazza) to sign draft picks, etc...

by Colorado Fan on Dec 4, 2006 9:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Add DJ
Add Dan Johnson to the Swisher/Barton/Kielty Platoon at 1B/LF/DH

by Colorado Fan on Dec 4, 2006 9:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Geoff Jenkins
Couple things I've read make it sound like the Brewers are feeling anxious about being able to move Jenkins. Gecent LH bat with one more year on his contract. If he has a good season he could be worth a draft pick after 2007, maybe two.
This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Dec 4, 2006 9:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

...still recovering from
Ginter.

by Billy Ball 2005 on Dec 4, 2006 10:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

padres close to deal with gred maddux
but ken rosenthal is not sure if it's a one or two year deal.

link

by gotgreen on Dec 4, 2006 6:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Any word on whether MLB
has agreed to move opening day to Jan 1st?

by Amnesiac727 on Dec 4, 2006 6:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If we try to grab an outfielder
or a player in general from Tampa Bay, I don't want Baldelli.

I'd go for one of their numerous blocked prospects.

Hell, lets try for one of the malcontents? Try to get Delmon Young, Elijah Dukes or Upton?

by Zonis on Dec 4, 2006 6:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Red Sox Mariner Giant Three-Way
Allegedly:

MARINERS GET:

Noah Lowry (SF)
Manny Ramirez (BOS)

GIANTS GET:

Richie Sexson (SEA)

RED SOX GET:

Adam Jones (SEA)
J.J. Putz (SEA)

I'm glad the speculation is that a deal would be hard to accomplish, because a Mariner team with Manny Ramirez and Noah Lowry would scare the hell out of me.

"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 7:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that is one heck of a rumor!!
let's just hope that's all it is .. a rumor!

by gotgreen on Dec 4, 2006 8:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sexson
Not a bad deal for the Gnat's either- Lowry for Sexson.

by ohmangoAs on Dec 4, 2006 9:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Vicente Padilla signed by Rangers
Three years for $33M, with an option for a fourth year at $12M.  The deal is pending a physical.

A couple of other noteworthy items from the article:

Zito visited Dallas last week, but Daniels and Zito's agent, Scott Boras, haven't met here.

"I'm sure we'll meet, but we don't have anything set up yet," Daniels said.

Daniels made it clear that re-signing Padilla will not keep the Rangers from continuing their pursuit of Zito.

"We're looking for two starters," he said. "Getting that first domino to fall -- whether it's Vinnie or somebody else -- is big. That will give us the framework for some of the other things that we might be able to do."

In one of those things you don't say everyday, it appears the Rangers are going to back off on Piazza, because they're actually being outbid on him by the A's.  Mission accomplished, Mr. Daniels:

The Rangers had strong interest in free-agent catcher Mike Piazza as a designated hitter, but it appears that he could get a two-year, $15 million deal with the Oakland Athletics. The Rangers will likely hold off pursuing any other significant offensive candidates until they get their starting pitching sorted out.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Dec 4, 2006 7:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kind of a weird aside...
I received an email this morning from People for the American Way announcing their annual online auction.  They have a lot of stuff donated by celebrities, signed books and artwork, etc.  There's only one sports item and it's a signed baseball bat donated by one of the least likely individuals I would have imagined supports PFAW.

Jeff Kent.  

http://www.charityfolks.com/cfauctions/auction_vertical.asp?slrid=171&nopg=3

by coffee roaster on Dec 5, 2006 9:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

jeff kent doesn't care about black people
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 5, 2006 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh say Kanye see?
Jeff Kent's definitely hard to peg.  On the one hand there's the good ole boy image vis Bonds and Bradley, plus his classic CHP-style appearance.  On the other hand, he's a Cal grad whose primary charity over the years has been support for women's athletics.
"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" --Johnny Rotten

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 5, 2006 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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