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DLD 11/7/06--Oakland Link Dump of Fremont

It's never a dull offseason for the green and gold.  Soon, we will be watching the hot stove season unfold, but in the meantime, we have a new A's ballpark to chew on, where you could presumably be watching A's games as soon as 2011.

Predictably, there is lots of reaction, both on this site and in the media about the likely move.

The Oakland Tribune's Dave Newhouse says that if the A's move to Fremont, they have no one to blame but themselves:

Make no mistake, Jerry Brown is ringing the funeral bells you're hearing. Former city manager Robert Bobb had the downtown ballpark in motion. HOK, the reputable ballpark architects from Kansas City, was hired. Brown then dumped Bobb faster than Rickey Henderson could steal second base.

Brown's deal is housing, and there are condos rising in Oakland by the second. That's wonderful, mayor, but just remember the A's left town on your watch. They are your legacy as much as Oakland's.

But did Wolff deliberately pick that "ballpark village" site directly across 66th Avenue from the Coliseum knowing the small business owners situated there weren't about to move, thus freeing him to leave?

"A lot of people think that way; my colleagues think that way," Oakland City Council president Ignacio De La Fuente said. "As usual (regarding the latest Fremont news), we've received no contact whatsoever (from Wolff). Maybe that's one of the problems."

Communication definitely broke down between Wolff and the politicos, leaving both sides at fault to some degree. But with Bobb out of the picture and Brown out of touch, Wolff's one-year ultimatum to Oakland to find him a ballpark site or else passed by without any resoution.

This is pretty close to how I feel on the subject, although other posters such as FreeSeatUpgrade have argued eloquently to the contrary.  Wolff determined in two years, first in an advisory role, then as owner, that Oakland was never going to happen.

In other ballpark-related linkage, Jimmy Cliff of the Merc points out that there's many rivers to cross before the ballpark can actually be built:

A final decision about a stadium would take at least two years after an application is filed. To date, Wolff has been seeking information from Fremont officials but has presented no proposal to the city. Wolff follows former owner Steve Schott, who long wanted to move the team to Santa Clara County, in seeking a location that would be accessible and appealing to Silicon Valley companies.

Pacific Commons is isolated from other residential portions of the city, meaning a shift to housing would require a vast array of new services, including police, fire, libraries, parks and schools. The property is five miles from the existing Fremont BART station, and about two miles from a planned new BART station in Warm Springs, whose construction is not yet guaranteed.

I am very curious to see how well the process actually goes.

There is also the issue of what to call the new team, which is speculated upon in salb918's article for the Merc:

The Silicon Valley designation could be popular with Cisco Systems, the San Jose-based maker of computer-networking equipment that holds the rights to the land Wolff would use for his stadium.

Baseball historian John Thorn, however, said it was a bad idea to consider labeling the team the Silicon Valley A's because that honors an industry, not a community.

``It's terrible because the region, 20 years from now, may no longer be known as Silicon Valley,'' said Thorn, who lives in upstate New York. ``What you're talking about is something that's very present-centric. What if they called it Slide Rule Park in 1962?''

Regardless of how this all works out, I'm just happy that a new ballpark in the Bay area is being accomplished.  Getting a project like this done is a enormous accomplishment.  Don't believe me?  Ask Sacramento Kings fans, who despite 311 consecutive home sellouts, are unlikely to get a new facility constructed in Sacramento.

Finally, a little bit of roster-related news that might otherwise get lost in the ballpark hubhub.  It looks like keeping Jay Payton and Frank Thomas, like pimping, might not be easy:

Along with hiring a manager, the A's have other business, including trying to re-sign Frank Thomas. Like many other free agents, the DH is waiting until Sunday, when other teams can make offers, before weighing his options. Four other teams have expressed interest in Thomas, according to agent Arn Tellem. Outfielder Jay Payton also wants to see what the market will bear. His agent, Craig Landis, said seven teams have called about Payton.

There's an awful lot of interest out there in those guys, and I hope that the A's can keep at least one of them.  The bigger one of them.

Vote Quimby.

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Wow.
It looks like keeping Jay Payton and Frank Thomas, like pimping, might not be easy:

That is beautiful.

"...and then a third guy walks in and starts punching me in the grief bone."

by Jennifer on Nov 7, 2006 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks :-).
I was hoping someone would catch the Chappelle's Show reference.

NOTE: YouTube link.

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

depends on who you ask
some might respond to "is pimping easy?" with an emphatic "hell yeah".
the judges somehow accept both answers.
"welcome to ME, motherf*^*er!" - tim hudson

by guy incognito on Nov 7, 2006 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Or some, like me...
..might have seen it as a reference to an Oscar-winning song.

Hustle and Flow, yo.

"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Nov 7, 2006 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ratto can't pass up a chance to dump on the A's
Quite predictable...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/07/SPGBDM7G5P1.DTL

In other words, the A's aren't in any danger of going broke in Oakland, so they really don't have to move to Fremont at all. They can wait until San Jose becomes an easier place to do mega-business again, and get exactly the city in which they really want to live, and they can do it while knowing they are helping take money out of Peter Magowan's pockets, a side benefit both Fisher and Wolff easily should understand.

So we have the A's, who don't have to move and can't get into the place they want, moving somewhere they really don't want simply because it's somewhere else. If any of your friends said he wanted to do this, you'd grab him, tie him to a radiator and hurl garlic rolls at him until he came to his senses.

But Lew Wolff is a man in a hurry, and ballparks just don't present themselves for the filling. This is his shot, and he's taking it, even though we suspect he knows Fremont really is the third-best choice of the three.

by socal on Nov 7, 2006 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

Oh please oh please oh please!
SLIDE RULE PARK!  SLIDE RULE PARK!
Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

Slide Rule Park
Jeremy Giambi must have been asleep when they taught that rule in school.

(Or, more likely, stoned.)

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Nov 7, 2006 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't blame him
It was the hamburgers.
Some are sabermetricians.

by andeux on Nov 7, 2006 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

well, if they'd been from White Castle ...
... he'd probably have known better.
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2006 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

And
replace that superannuated pruno-lush Stomper with Sporker the Wonk.
"Even if you know the deck is stacked in your favor, you still have to have the discipline to trust the math and the cojones to go to the ATM." BB

by green star oakland on Nov 7, 2006 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Sporker the Wonk! I'm sensing another AN-ism.
Woohoo!
"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Nov 7, 2006 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Sporky the Wonk just flows better, neh?
"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 7, 2006 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, this is the BEST BURGER EVER!
Wait...what were we talking about?
I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL
"It gives a whole new meaning to the word 'Whopper,'"
"...and then a third guy walks in and starts punching me in the grief bone."

by Jennifer on Nov 7, 2006 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

You've got the munchies, so you
go grab a burger and...you've got the munchies again!  It's the perfect plan!
Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Have It Your Way.
The officers ate about half of their burgers before discovering marijuana on the meat, the lawsuit said. They used a field test kit to confirm the substance was pot, then went to a hospital for medical evaluations.

Doctor:  "Yes, you are indeed stoned."

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

lol
Could you hotbox a dorm room with hamburgers?
Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't know.
But I think you just came up with the name for the packaging.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

goodness!
"aggravated battery on an officer, a felony"
"Having a vote for 'most clutch' baseball player is like having a vote for 'most real' monster." - Ken Tremendous

by ArakSOT on Nov 7, 2006 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

"Mellow battery" isn't on the books.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

dude
special orders don't upset us
"Having a vote for 'most clutch' baseball player is like having a vote for 'most real' monster." - Ken Tremendous

by ArakSOT on Nov 7, 2006 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

The harder you dump, the harder I fall
down laughing.  Very nice.
I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

why not
I say if the new stadium will be Cisco Park or whatever why not just take the next logical nascar-like step and sell the team naming rights too; Ladies and Gentlemen, your EBAY A's!
the home run that Eric Chavez did was tight. Sprots4Kids quote

by Satchmo22 on Nov 7, 2006 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

I don't know if they'll go that far.
But I wouldn't be surprised to see ad space sold on uniforms at some point.  There's precedent for it in other sports, notably soccer.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Two reasons why that will happen eventually.
  1. It's profitable - companies will pay handsomely to get their name on the front of a baseball shirt.
  2. It ensures that every fan goes out and buys a new jersey every time a sponsor changes.
The old Australian Baseball League had shirt front sponsors, as well as shirt back sponsors (that was a league sponsorship deal) and one shirt sleeve.

That is, until Dave Nilsson came home, bought the league for $5m, and then shut it down a year later.

"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Nov 7, 2006 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing Dave Nilsson also stole your girl...
killed your dog, burned down your house and impregnated your cat while he was at it too, right?

Christ, what a daghole.

"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 7, 2006 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Mixing politics and sports
In honor of our host in today's link dump, I refer you to this interesting Jeff Pearlman article about politics within baseball clubhouses and the dubious relevance of athletes' views on the issues du jour.
I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

In my honor?
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Re your politics on the blog views
Hey, tortured barely appropriate references are my stock in trade.
I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

stay on message, ESU
Those barely appropriate references of yours were subjected to alternative interrogation techniques.
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2006 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, my comment yesterday.
I think this passes muster, since it's also baseball related.

Obviously, it's not hard to tell what my politics are.  I'd just like to see politics invoked less frequently on the site, partially because I'm unable to refuse the bait when it's presented.

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

<reconsiders personal bias against Pearlman>
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2006 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

mixing politics and making money
what do statheads think of this.  i don't know that i accept all the state numbers, but if they're close, should it be closer to 50/50 than 70/30?

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2006_11_05-2006_11_11.shtml#1162881852

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 7, 2006 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd guess the market is fairly efficient.
I don't remember the exact situation here (and that blog doesn't say) but if, for example, the democrats need any four of those five races to take control, and (to make the computation a little simpler) have a 2/3 chance of winning each of them, then their implicit odds of winning the senate are only
5*(2/3)^4*1/3 + (2/3)^5
which comes to about 46%.
So yes, it seems like it should be a little closer to 50% under those assumptions (and assuming there aren't other seats that the democrats have a significant chance of losing).
If they need all five, then it's only 13%.

That assumes that the races are all independent, which may not be a safe assumption in this case. There could be a systematic bias in the odds in individual races, or something that affects voter turnout nationwide.

Some are sabermetricians.

by andeux on Nov 7, 2006 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Now that I read the comments there,
I see that the democrats need all 5, so, if anything, 30% seems too high. People there also discuss the question of whether the probabilities should be seen as independent.
Some are sabermetricians.

by andeux on Nov 7, 2006 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

i didn't notice the link to the comments
i'll read them
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 7, 2006 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

i don't know if i buy the numbers
i'm sure turnout is factored in, people pretty much know what turnout will be in the days leading up to an election, it's usually not a surprise.

i think the republicans chances in many of those states (va, mo, ri, mt) have improved in the last few days and are slightly better than the listed odds.  and the dems have better than a 15% shot in tn, i think ford is down around 3-6% in the latest polls but closing the gap a bit.  

that's just my gut feeling, but the odds this close to an election are usually pretty damn accurate.  in the days leading up to the 04 election, tradesports correctly predicted 49 states (it had bush slightly ahead in wisconsin, which ended up being the closest state) and all but one senate race (it had murkowski slightly behind in alaska).  

if i had to put numbers on it this time, i'd say the dems have a 90% chance (better than the 84% on tradesports) of taking the house (by around 5-6 seats) and 25% chance (less than the 33% on tradesports) of taking the senate (it'll probably be 51-49).

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 7, 2006 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Certainly NOT a safe assumption
that all five races are independent.

The uncertainty in each race is whatever unmeasured (or unmeasurable) factors can also affect the race. Surely a great deal of those factors are ones which would move all five races in the same direction.

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Nov 7, 2006 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Ooops
In the response ad, Sweeney, St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Jeff Suppan, Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, the dude who played Jesus in the Mel Gibson movie, and Ray Romano's TV wife make impassioned pleas to vote NO on an amendment to the state constitution that would permit extensive stem cell research.

The initiative would prohibit Missouri and its local governments from "preventing or discouraging lawful stem cell research, therapies, or cures."  My reading of the initiative is that it would not "permit extensive cell research." Also, it does not ask for state or taxpayer funding of stem cell research.

Pearlman got this detail wrong.  I think it's sloppy.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Disagree
Doesn't "prohibiting" from "preventing" mean "permitting"?

He doesn't say anything about taxpayer funding, and "permit extensive stem cell research" to me just means "allow."

by mikeA on Nov 7, 2006 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The lawyers would point out..
..that you need a definition of what 'extensive' means in this context.

Is testing it for an hour extensive, or would you have to test it for twenty years to be extensive?

"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Nov 7, 2006 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, not to bring too much religion or politics
into this, but it's absurdly sloppy logic to state the case that telling the government to keep its hands off of stem cell research is actually saying that would permit it or endorse it. I mean, in America, you have the tacit permission to do anything that isn't expressly forbidden, but to state the case that passage would amount to an endorsement of the research is an unfair characterization. Which is not surprising, given the context and contestants.
See the latest dumbass thing I've done -- camUra

by hunter on Nov 7, 2006 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

"ballpark hubhub"?
Don't you mean, in Lew's ExpensiveSeatUpgrade world, "ballpark Stubhub"?
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2006 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

So this is why we haven't seen McFood lately
Disclaimer: animal cruelty is wrong and unfunny.  And yet I link:

Man jailed for putting puppy in oven

I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 11:24 AM PST reply actions  

goodness
"misdemeanor aggravated animal cruelty"

cooking a live puppy is a misdemeanor; doping a burger is a felony

"Having a vote for 'most clutch' baseball player is like having a vote for 'most real' monster." - Ken Tremendous

by ArakSOT on Nov 7, 2006 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

If only he put pot in the puppy.
Then he'd get the punishment he deserved.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Come on..
That puppy had it coming.
"...and then a third guy walks in and starts punching me in the grief bone."

by Jennifer on Nov 7, 2006 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL.
Reminds me of one of my favorite lines ever from a Kurt Vonnegut novel, in "Deadeye Dick":

"She was practically asking for a bullet between the eyes, wasn't she?"

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Puppy Tar Tar...
was to be my entry into the Purina Canine Cuisine Cook-Off Contest.

"Pop one into a warm oven and you have a quick snack that's not only good, it's good for six months in jail!"

"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 7, 2006 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

bad news
my productivity will continue to decline.
the economist now has a blog:

http://www.economist.com/debate/freeexchange/

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 7, 2006 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

Kill my GM, Kill my GM
Apparently Lonnie Smith planned to kill John Schuerholz in 1987, believing that the then-KC General Manager was blackballing Smith's chances of returning to baseball.

Says the article:  "The plan died when (Smith) gave the pistol to his ex-wife as part of their divorce settlement."

I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

San Francisco Giants news
I imagine he will be a strong contender for their rotation.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

Nationals hire grover as GM.
I think they must have read his "Cheap Pitching For Sale" diary.  They went out and signed a whopping 21 minor-league free agents, including 13 pitchers.  

Jermaine Van Buren is off the market, grover!

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

Tease
Any Mariners fan got a double-take out of that.

I thought maybe the Nationals swiped Mike Hargrove from the M's.  Don't I wish.

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Nov 7, 2006 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

They grabbed a SS I liked as well
Josh Wilson.

You'd think I'd have received a commision but noooo!

<sigh>

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 7, 2006 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

More importantly
would AN forgive me if I got a job with some other team?
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 7, 2006 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

only if ...
... they built a BART extension within 2 miles of you.
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Britney Spears files for divorce.....
http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/07/britney-spears-files-for-divorce/

Ok, so not something you would typically see here, but its big news nontheless.

I have a new philosophy. I'm only going to dread one day at a time

by athleticscatcher on Nov 7, 2006 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

What is up....
with all this advertisements?  Since when has AN sold out to Tom Bodett?
Hope Floats...I hate Sandra Bullock

by franks a lot on Nov 7, 2006 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

Link dump suddenly brought to you by...
the Canada tourism board.

The answer is that the site doesn't pay for itself.

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It really looks bad
It should off to the side, not smack dab in the middle of the page. I don't care if we have more advertising, it just should be more fluid with the page.
"This is the best hug in the major leagues, right here!" - Swisher Pics

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Nov 7, 2006 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.
I think it screws with your HTML, too.  I went in to make a minor edit to my diary earlier, and the HTML looks all funky.  At least I now know what that red X was that had been in the diaries for the last few days.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont think it is that bad at all...
Pretty small...and anything that helps Blez with some revenue is something I can support.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Nov 7, 2006 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It sure beats paying for AN Insider
Not to mention Blez tarping over the recommended diaries section.
I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

or relo'ing AN >2m from the nearest Internet
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2006 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

On some obsolete post-challenged Treo
I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm constantly worried about
when my next migraine will hit, and I don't even get migraines.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Halos Heaven claims Ramirez
will stay with Cubs.  They're gripping about it a little.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

Speculation, but...
Right now, Beane not interested in bringing back Mulder
According to the New York Daily News, the Mets were one of eight MLB organizations who recently called Mulder's agent, Gregg Clifton. The other clubs, Clifton said, were the Cardinals (who have exclusive negotiating rights through Nov. 11), Arizona Diamondbacks, Los Angeles Dodgers, San Francisco Giants, San Diego Padres, Tampa Bay Devil Rays and Baltimore Orioles.

(Hat tip: Gaslamp Ball)

BigLeagueChoo: rerish noooo

by JLaff on Nov 7, 2006 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

Aw, Foulke!
Red Sox decline their option on Keith Foulke.  If he does not exercise his $3.5M player option, he will get a $1.5M buyout.  Yet another quality Beane non-re-sign.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

Foulke is in my
inner-circle baseball player hell.
Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He was great for the Sox, though.
Was instrumental in them winning the 2003 ALDS, and three playoff series in 2004.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard.
<donates to cuss jar>
Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

did his Wizard break your cricket bat?
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2006 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm rethinking my late night Coli visit plans
I've shared a few times how I used to sneak into my local AAA ballpark as a kid when the team was on road trips.  It was way cool, and I continue to want to try it some late February night at the Coliseum, now that I'm an "adult."

Well, it turns out sneaking into stadiums these days ain't such a great idea, at least for two Pittsburg area college students who could be construed by police as "Middle Eastern males."

I threw that horseshoe into the weeds to see what luck can bring

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 7, 2006 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

Probably a good idea there.
Could turn these two into a couple of Carnegie Felons.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

My empty ballpark story
About two years ago, one of my first "dates" with the woman who is now my wife was a visit to the home ballpark of the Everett Aqua Sox, the Mariner's farm team in single-A Northwest (same league as Vancouver).

She lived a few blocks from the park then. One afternoon as we were walking by we noticed the gate was open, so we went in. No one was there, at least as far as we could see, so we wandered around for about a half hour. We even found a baseball, which I had to squeeze around behind the stands to retrieve. (It now sits on her nightstand in our bedroom.)

Whoever had opened the gate must have left while we were there, because when we went to leave it was locked up. Thus, although we didn't have to climb the fence to get it, we did have to climb the fence to get out!

Good times.

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Nov 7, 2006 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Wash Article
Nice article with a personal and unique perspective about Wash, written by the David Gardner co-founder of the Motley Fool investment service.  Dang, I wish he were our manager.  It'll be hard not to root for the Rangers next year.

http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2006/commentary06110706.htm

by david32 on Nov 7, 2006 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

Its official!!
The Minnesota Twins have officially been Harden-ed! Welcome to the club!

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061107&content_id=1735981&vkey=news_mlb &fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

It would just kill me if Liriano won ROY...

Let's GO OAKLAND!!!

by OaktownRajah on Nov 8, 2006 12:58 AM PST reply actions  

CNN.com!!!!!
I can't say more than that.  That is all.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 8, 2006 10:10 AM PST reply actions  

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