DLD 11/27/06--Performance Enhancing Link Dump
This link dump admits to using ANdro, but generally, is not here to talk about the past.
The 2007 ballot for induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame has been released. The notable first-time inclusions on the ballot are Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripken, and Mark McGwire. Gwynn and Ripken may as well make their plane reservations today.
The interesting one, of course, is McGwire, who represents the first HOF litmus test for how perceived steroid users will be treated by voters. Frank Robinson thinks that McGwire does not belong, and an anonymous voting writer with whom Robinson discusses the issue at a card show agrees:
"Why aren't you voting for McGwire?" Robinson asked."Steroids," the writer answered. "McGwire admitted he was taking andro back in the 1990s. It's the same thing as steroids - the steroids he won't admit to taking. Andro turned McGwire into something he wasn't created to be."
"That's exactly right," said Robinson. "Who else?"
"I'm not going to vote for (Sammy) Sosa after that, or (Barry) Bonds after that," the writer said.
"Good, good," said Robinson, nodding.
A woman standing nearby chimed in: "Once it's proven they were on steroids, their records should be stricken."
The rules for voting make it pretty clear that you're obliged to at least consider this issue:
Listed as No. 5 on the Hall's guidelines for voters -- but it might as well be the cardinal rule -- is the phrase that defines the qualifications of a Hall of Famer. It reads: "Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played."It's not an easy call, especially since no proof is available unless the player has admitted taking steroids (Caminiti, Canseco), or has tested positive (Palmeiro). He is 7th all-time in home runs, and 13th in OPS, which are pretty compelling numbers. On the other hand, he was also a career .263 hitter and a pretty one-dimensional player. I strongly suspect that he won't make it this time, but will make it on a subsequent ballot.
In hot stove news, the Orioles and Danys Baez have agreed to terms on a 3-year, $19MM contract. I wonder what affect, if any, this will have on the kind of money Kiko Calero gets in arbitration. If $6MM+/per is the going rate for set-up men, Kiko is going to be well paid, and could be a very valuable trade asset this offseason.
The Brewers and D-Backs completed the biggest trade of the offseason to date, swapping LHP Doug Davis, LHP Dana Eveland, and OF Dave Krynzel for C Johnny "CHiPs" Estrada, RHP Claudio Vargas, and RHP Greg Aquino. I like how the D-Backs made out in this one. Doug Davis is a big upgrade for their rotation, and Eveland is young and talented. I don't see how this helps the Brewers a lot, since they already had Damian Miller. Sure, Estrada is better, but Miller isn't bad.
Across the Bay, we have a signal that the Barry Bonds era in San Francisco may indeed be over, as the Giants have had "serious discussions" with the Red Sox about acquiring Manny Ramirez. At 34, Ramirez almost makes their minimum age requirement, but the article rightly wonders what the Red Sox would want from the Giants:
Another obstacle is the talent Boston would seek in return. The Red Sox are seeking relief help (so are the Giants), a shortstop (Omar Vizquel is staying put) and prospects (the Giants' best hope).The Giants' farm system is pretty weak, so unless they would part with Jonathan Sanchez and Vizquel, I don't see how they could do it without involving a third team--and even that's a stretch. I also don't know if Manny would want to go there. Does he think they're going to win games when their plan is to sign 35-year-old Dave Roberts, 35-year-old Gregg Zaun, 35-year-old Rich Aurilia, and 35-year-old Mark Loretta to multi-year deals? That's one osteoporitic offense.
No news on the A's hot-stove front, and I am starting to think we shouldn't expect any. We might see one late-season OF signing (like Trot Nixon, Jose Guillen, or David Dellucci), but the more I think about it, the more I think that Daric Barton is going to be given a chance to win a job in spring training. The A's brought up Miguel Tejada (3 AAA ABs) and Eric Chavez (194 AAA ABs) before you could accurately call them "ready," because both were supremely talented, and the A's thought they would both benefit from developing in the majors. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they do the same thing with Barton. I'll be shocked if we don't see him next year, if not on the opening-day roster.
That's all the links I have to dump. Have a great day, AN!
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Injury update
by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 10:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Davis advice to Phil Bronstein
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 27, 2006 10:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sharon Stone may be a lot of things...
by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, eye black actually works!
I wore eye black for games a couple of times, for pure cool points only.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 27, 2006 10:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I tried Eyeblack in Little League
by Zonis on Nov 27, 2006 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just gave the bitch a black eye
by grover on Nov 27, 2006 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
<buys popcorn>
by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Take notes
by grover on Nov 27, 2006 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
argh!
My responde to you was supposed to be: "That would explain how she was able to track and snare your balls in flight."
by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh huh. Sure
by grover on Nov 27, 2006 5:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wearing it now.
by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Randy Wolf may be off the market
by grover on Nov 27, 2006 10:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to the Darren Dreifort...
by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously Dreifort hated LA
by grover on Nov 27, 2006 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my one impression of Dreifort
That's small sample size for you.
by Apricot on Nov 27, 2006 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know you did impressions...
by ArakSOT on Nov 27, 2006 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My impression of Dreifort
by Nick on Nov 27, 2006 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His Native American name
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His Russian name is:
by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Smart Move
by jubjub on Nov 27, 2006 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
McGwire was at least two dimensional
Until the last couple of years of his career he was also a good to decent defensive player.
I'd vote for him from the beginning but I doubt he makes it until year 2. You simply cannot fault players for seeking whatever advantages they can within the rules. Andro was in no ways against the rules when McGwire is known to have used it and no steroids were banned in any meaningful way until after he retired. Those are absolute, unquestionable facts.
What you do with those facts is up to you -- but to me he is simply accused of engaging in ethically questionable acts but not of breaking any rules. It's fair to consider it to be a strike against them, a strike that might knock out some more borderline players -- a Palmeiro or a Sosa -- but that certainly wouldn't be sufficient to knock out arguably the greatest pure power hitter in the history of the game.
Righteous indignation is certainly good fun but thse guys are scapegoats. Steroids were a major part of Major League Baseball in the 90s and early 00s. No single players were any more responsible than any others.
by devo on Nov 27, 2006 11:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's pretty close to how I feel
If I had a ballot (with which you can vote for up to 10 players), I would probably vote for Gywnn, Ripken, Blyleven, and Gossage. I don't know what I'd do about McGwire, but I know I would vote for him eventually.
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oops
by Philip Christy on Nov 27, 2006 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His OBP is relatively low because of Avg
by devo on Nov 27, 2006 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well said devo
"McGwire admitted he was taking andro back in the 1990s. It's the same thing as steroids - the steroids he won't admit to taking. Andro turned McGwire into something he wasn't created to be."
So, some jackass at a card show yapping it up with Big Frank Robinson thinks that "andro" is "the same thing as steriods". You know what, the more i think back to those hearings the more i think macgwire said and did the right thing. he was in a complete no win situation and he probably should never have attended. let those congressmen throw him in jail for not reporting to the hearing. screw 'em.
by bigelephant on Nov 27, 2006 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
from bbtf:
http://biz.yahoo.com/special/invest112706_article4.html
The conversation turns from investing to baseball - which are connected, of course, in that both are susceptible to statistical analysis. In Miller's mind, baseball is another venue for unconventional thinking. ("Moneyball," by Michael Lewis, is a favorite book.)
Bill Miller - a baseball pitcher himself at Washington and Lee, as was Chip Mason in high school - makes no secret of his disappointment with the Orioles' performance. Someday, Miller says, if owner Peter Angelos wanted to sell, he would like to join with Mason and Oriole great Cal Ripken to buy the O's.
(When you suggest to Miller that his streak is DiMaggio-like, he'll tell you he prefers that it be described as Ripken-like.) Miller's dream team to run the Orioles would include Harvard-educated baseball exec Paul DePodesta, who uses nontraditional, so-called sabermetric principles to analyze baseball.
by xbhaskarx on Nov 27, 2006 11:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Turnaround
by jubjub on Nov 27, 2006 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yum-O.
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 11:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've been wondering
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Nov 27, 2006 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Four shows on the Food Network
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Emeril got a network show?
by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, it's on
by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard Rachel Ray
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Nov 27, 2006 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don Rumsfeld had a cooking show.
And you don't even want to try his Lady Fingers.
by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Rachel Ray ...
speaking of Food Network shows, I made a great vegan adaptation of the Everyday Italian recipe for Turkey/Cranberry ravioli if anyone is interested. It was a very popular dish among vegans and non-vegans alike at my family's turkey day.
by devo on Nov 27, 2006 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vegans scare me.
by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a vegan
by Athletics fan and runner on Nov 27, 2006 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean junkies?
Yeah, me too.
by Ozzz on Nov 28, 2006 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She's easy on the eyeballs, too.
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Nov 27, 2006 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My wife
Me, I've never seen her.
by iglew on Nov 27, 2006 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope I don't come across as insulting
by grover on Nov 27, 2006 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
your wife is a professional chef?
by Amnesiac727 on Nov 28, 2006 12:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She is not a chef
by twinkle toes on Nov 28, 2006 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Rachel Ray ...
by devo on Nov 28, 2006 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More Manny
I'll believe it when I see it. The Giants, Dodgers, and Padres are characterized as the most interested suitors, while the Rangers, Angels, Orioles, and Indians are viewed as teams have have opted out of the sweepstakes.
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 12:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Man...
by OaktownPower on Nov 27, 2006 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he a 10/5 Player?
by jubjub on Nov 27, 2006 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He has a no-trade clause.
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
by OaktownPower on Nov 27, 2006 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I had a dime for everytime
by AsGirl on Nov 27, 2006 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you'd be on the verge of being a millionaire?
by McFood on Nov 27, 2006 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Osteoporitic?
I've never seen the word before either way, but hypnosis has hypnotic, psychosis has psychotic, and symbiosis has symbiotic, so it stands to reason that osteoporosis would have osteoporotic.
by iglew on Nov 27, 2006 2:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You are correct, sir.
by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 8:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Should be o.k., jeeps...
by Ice Cream on Nov 28, 2006 10:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my poll rarely stays intact ...
by monkeyball on Nov 28, 2006 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Beanes head to be attached to robot.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/11/23/robots.tooreal.ap/index.html
Unfortunately, Ted Williams frozen head, even if thawed, will still have the vision of an old codger, thereby rendering him useless as a hitter. Now, maybe as a coach...
by McFood on Nov 27, 2006 2:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Williams's eyes worked fine when he was old
One year when Williams was the Senators' manager in the early 70s, Luciano heard him at Spring Training describing how he used to actually see the bat hit the ball when he was made contact at the plate. Luciano told him that was impossible, and Williams, who was 54 at the time, said he'd show him that he could do it.
Williams took one of his hardthrowing young pitchers to a practice field and, with Luciano wathcing, hit BP with a bat he'd covered with pine tar. Despite Luciano's misgivings (he thought the old man would embarass hiself), Williams proved he could do it. In Luciano's (and David Fisher's) words:
The young pitcher threw a bullet and Williams hit a rocket to center field. "One seam," he shouted confidently over his shoulder.
"Sure, Ted," I agreed. I was just glad he was still able to hit the ball. Someone retrieved it and brought it over to me. One seam was covered with pine tar.
He hit another pitch. "About a quarter inch above the $#&%$%$% seam," he said.
That ball had a pine-tar scar just a quarter inch above the seam. He called five of seven perfectly, the most amazing display of hitting ability I've ever seen.
The man could hit.
by Nick on Nov 27, 2006 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Russian cosmonaut hits golf ball a million miles..
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/11/22/spacestation.golf.ap/index.html
by McFood on Nov 27, 2006 3:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Giving the finger
The article gives the gesture partial credit for one of the more meorable one-sided trades in baseball history, when St Louis sent bird-flipping Garry Templeton to San Diego in exchange for young Ozzie Smith.
And in a local tie in, here's Berkeley's own Billy Martin giving a subtle bat handle finger to the whole world on his 1972 baseball card.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 27, 2006 3:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They sure broke the mold
Oh, no, wait. Billy did that. Someone left it in the manager's office after the A's 7th loss in a row, and he smashed it to pieces with a fungo bat.
by Nick on Nov 27, 2006 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not what I heard
by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear
by OaktownIn06 on Nov 27, 2006 3:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You misheard...
by McFood on Nov 27, 2006 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With our budget?
by mikedaviswhereareyou on Nov 27, 2006 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
by mikedaviswhereareyou on Nov 27, 2006 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eaton Signs with Phills
This is a guy I would much rather have than the Tiajuana Turd, but, oh well.
The good news is that he is OUT of the West before he can do any real damage.
Now, who do the Rangers have?
Millwood?
by saint on Nov 27, 2006 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Adam Eaton signs with Philly
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2677728
A good deal if the guy stays healthy. A bad deal if his name is Adam Eaton.
by grover on Nov 27, 2006 4:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dellucci to the indians
by bigelephant on Nov 27, 2006 4:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OT: Vander-jacked
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 4:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
how many Gramatica's are there?
by bigelephant on Nov 27, 2006 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are three, I believe.
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Ah yes, BEEL."
by capper3 on Nov 27, 2006 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As a Cowboys fan...
by JLaff on Nov 27, 2006 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True enough
by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh...
by JLaff on Nov 27, 2006 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like cheese
by Amnesiac727 on Nov 27, 2006 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cheese refuses to comment
by Amnesiac727 on Nov 27, 2006 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
O's interested in jay pay
soo ... is 2007 our rebuilding year again?
by gotgreen on Nov 27, 2006 10:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that doesn't sound like much more
I've no doubt Payton will entertain offers from various clubs. The A's are also supposedly trying to re-sign him.
by OaklandSi on Nov 28, 2006 7:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, it's the Orioles
by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 7:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Poll
by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 8:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
my best guess
by bigelephant on Nov 28, 2006 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Iga-WOW.
by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 11:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yanks?
by jubjub on Nov 28, 2006 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
The Sox may have adopted the position that you should submit a ridiculously high posting fee, win the rights, and exert pressure on the posting team to play ball if they want their player signed. That will have very interesting consequences for the posting system if true.
by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs offer ex-Giant Schmidt 45 million dollars!
Link is at the bottom of the link in the post above. (How lazy am I?)
by McFood on Nov 28, 2006 11:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
pretty darn lazy
by ArakSOT on Nov 28, 2006 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's still relatively fresh...
by McFood on Nov 28, 2006 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Then what's that smell?
by ArakSOT on Nov 28, 2006 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a day-old Danish
by monkeyball on Nov 28, 2006 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you and your anti-Scandanavian vitriol
by ArakSOT on Nov 28, 2006 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's no match for my orthographic vitriol
by monkeyball on Nov 28, 2006 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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