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DLD 11/27/06--Performance Enhancing Link Dump

This link dump admits to using ANdro, but generally, is not here to talk about the past.

The 2007 ballot for induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame has been released.  The notable first-time inclusions on the ballot are Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripken, and Mark McGwire.  Gwynn and Ripken may as well make their plane reservations today.  

The interesting one, of course, is McGwire, who represents the first HOF litmus test for how perceived steroid users will be treated by voters.  Frank Robinson thinks that McGwire does not belong, and an anonymous voting writer with whom Robinson discusses the issue at a card show agrees:

"Why aren't you voting for McGwire?" Robinson asked.

"Steroids," the writer answered. "McGwire admitted he was taking andro back in the 1990s. It's the same thing as steroids - the steroids he won't admit to taking. Andro turned McGwire into something he wasn't created to be."

"That's exactly right," said Robinson. "Who else?"

"I'm not going to vote for (Sammy) Sosa after that, or (Barry) Bonds after that," the writer said.

"Good, good," said Robinson, nodding.

A woman standing nearby chimed in: "Once it's proven they were on steroids, their records should be stricken."

The rules for voting make it pretty clear that you're obliged to at least consider this issue:

Listed as No. 5 on the Hall's guidelines for voters -- but it might as well be the cardinal rule -- is the phrase that defines the qualifications of a Hall of Famer. It reads: "Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played."

It's not an easy call, especially since no proof is available unless the player has admitted taking steroids (Caminiti, Canseco), or has tested positive (Palmeiro).  He is 7th all-time in home runs, and 13th in OPS, which are pretty compelling numbers.  On the other hand, he was also a career .263 hitter and a pretty one-dimensional player.  I strongly suspect that he won't make it this time, but will make it on a subsequent ballot.  

In hot stove news, the Orioles and Danys Baez have agreed to terms on a 3-year, $19MM contract.  I wonder what affect, if any, this will have on the kind of money Kiko Calero gets in arbitration.  If $6MM+/per is the going rate for set-up men, Kiko is going to be well paid, and could be a very valuable trade asset this offseason.  

The Brewers and D-Backs completed the biggest trade of the offseason to date, swapping LHP Doug Davis, LHP Dana Eveland, and OF Dave Krynzel for C Johnny "CHiPs" Estrada, RHP Claudio Vargas, and RHP Greg Aquino.  I like how the D-Backs made out in this one.  Doug Davis is a big upgrade for their rotation, and Eveland is young and talented.  I don't see how this helps the Brewers a lot, since they already had Damian Miller.  Sure, Estrada is better, but Miller isn't bad.

Across the Bay, we have a signal that the Barry Bonds era in San Francisco may indeed be over, as the Giants have had "serious discussions" with the Red Sox about acquiring Manny Ramirez.  At 34, Ramirez almost makes their minimum age requirement, but the article rightly wonders what the Red Sox would want from the Giants:

Another obstacle is the talent Boston would seek in return. The Red Sox are seeking relief help (so are the Giants), a shortstop (Omar Vizquel is staying put) and prospects (the Giants' best hope).

The Giants' farm system is pretty weak, so unless they would part with Jonathan Sanchez and Vizquel, I don't see how they could do it without involving a third team--and even that's a stretch.  I also don't know if Manny would want to go there.  Does he think they're going to win games when their plan is to sign 35-year-old Dave Roberts, 35-year-old Gregg Zaun, 35-year-old Rich Aurilia, and 35-year-old Mark Loretta to multi-year deals?  That's one osteoporitic offense.

No news on the A's hot-stove front, and I am starting to think we shouldn't expect any.  We might see one late-season OF signing (like Trot Nixon, Jose Guillen, or David Dellucci), but the more I think about it, the more I think that Daric Barton is going to be given a chance to win a job in spring training.  The A's brought up Miguel Tejada (3 AAA ABs) and Eric Chavez (194 AAA ABs) before you could accurately call them "ready," because both were supremely talented, and the A's thought they would both benefit from developing in the majors.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if they do the same thing with Barton.  I'll be shocked if we don't see him next year, if not on the opening-day roster.

That's all the links I have to dump.  Have a great day, AN!

Poll
Should Mark McGwire be in the Hall of Fame?
Yes, on the first ballot
27 votes
Yes, but not on the first ballot
30 votes
No, he shouldn't
32 votes

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Injury update
Apparently, Larry Davis is now working for the SF Chron. Either that, or the Giants have signed Mr Cranky Pants. No, the other one.
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

Davis advice to Phil Bronstein
You can't injure it any worse, so you can return to the full range of monitor lizard activities as long as you can stand the pain.
"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" --Johnny Rotten

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 27, 2006 10:35 AM PST reply actions  

Sharon Stone may be a lot of things...
..but reptilian? Harsh.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL
But I would have giggled more if you'd referred to him as "El Macho."
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Nov 27, 2006 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, eye black actually works!
As linked from Page2's Uniform Watch column, this study claims that there is an actual, measurable improvement in glare fighting from the grease paint type of eye black, although not from the sticker variety.

I wore eye black for games a couple of times, for pure cool points only.

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" --Johnny Rotten

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 27, 2006 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

I tried Eyeblack in Little League
and it did help reduce glare, but I didn't use it much. Until you're used to it, its sort of distracting. And if you ever rub your eyes...

by Zonis on Nov 27, 2006 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I just gave the bitch a black eye
She didn't say anything about it reducing glare...
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 27, 2006 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

<buys popcorn>
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Take notes
That's how you goad a response.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 27, 2006 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

argh!
Crud. I actually meant to respond to Oz' goading of xbx with that.

My responde to you was supposed to be: "That would explain how she was able to track and snare your balls in flight."

People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh huh. Sure
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 27, 2006 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm wearing it now.
You don't want to know where.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Randy Wolf may be off the market
1 year plus an option in 2008 to play for the Dodgers. He's supposedly turned down more years and money from the Phillies. He's LA born & bred (not that there's anything wrong with that) and it looks like he's giving the Dodgers the ol' hometown discount.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 27, 2006 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

As opposed to the Darren Dreifort...
..'empty our pockets for five years' bonus?
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Obviously Dreifort hated LA
Which makes me like him more but he was still a sucky pitcher.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 27, 2006 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

my one impression of Dreifort
was a Dodgers-Cubs game I saw in LA a few years ago, where he pitched a very nice game and hit TWO homers, including (if memory serves) a grand slam.

That's small sample size for you.

by Apricot on Nov 27, 2006 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

My impression of Dreifort
"Owwww!!!"
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Nov 27, 2006 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

His Native American name
is "Elbow Tendon Snapping."
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

His Russian name is:
Darrenofsky Signbigandneverplayavich.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Smart Move
He'll play in the best pitcher's park for a couple of years, get that ERA back down in the high 3's and get a 5 yr/90MM contract in 2008.  
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Nov 27, 2006 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

McGwire was at least two dimensional
boasting prodigous power and a virtually unparalleled batting eye.

Until the last couple of years of his career he was also a good to decent defensive player.

I'd vote for him from the beginning but I doubt he makes it until year 2. You simply cannot fault players for seeking whatever advantages they can within the rules. Andro was in no ways against the rules when McGwire is known to have used it and no steroids were banned in any meaningful way until after he retired. Those are absolute, unquestionable facts.

What you do with those facts is up to you -- but to me he is simply accused of engaging in ethically questionable acts but not of breaking any rules. It's fair to consider it to be a strike against them, a strike that might knock out some more borderline players -- a Palmeiro or a Sosa -- but that certainly wouldn't be sufficient to knock out arguably the greatest pure power hitter in the history of the game.

Righteous indignation is certainly good fun but thse guys are scapegoats. Steroids were a major part of Major League Baseball in the 90s and early 00s. No single players were any more responsible than any others.

by devo on Nov 27, 2006 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

That's pretty close to how I feel
I think he will make it, but not right away.  I do think his power makes him belong, as well as how he stood out in relation to his peers (12 All-Star appearances).  I think "unparalleled batting eye" is a little strong for 78th all-time in OBP (.394), though.  He struck out an awful lot for that tag, too (23rd all-time).  

If I had a ballot (with which you can vote for up to 10 players), I would probably vote for Gywnn, Ripken, Blyleven, and Gossage.  I don't know what I'd do about McGwire, but I know I would vote for him eventually.

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops
That comment was supposed to be attached to Devo's, not Jeepers'. Although Jeepers' is cool, too.

by Philip Christy on Nov 27, 2006 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

His OBP is relatively low because of Avg
His OBP-Avg ranks among the best. Only 7 of the top 20 in OBP rank above him.

by devo on Nov 27, 2006 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

well said devo
Ignorant comments like this:

"McGwire admitted he was taking andro back in the 1990s. It's the same thing as steroids - the steroids he won't admit to taking. Andro turned McGwire into something he wasn't created to be."

So, some jackass at a card show yapping it up with Big Frank Robinson thinks that "andro" is "the same thing as steriods". You know what, the more i think back to those hearings the more i think macgwire said and did the right thing. he was in a complete no win situation and he probably should never have attended. let those congressmen throw him in jail for not reporting to the hearing. screw 'em.

"If the fans don't come out to the ball park, you can't stop them."- Yogi Berra.

by bigelephant on Nov 27, 2006 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

from bbtf:
The Greatest Money Manager of Our Time
http://biz.yahoo.com/special/invest112706_article4.html

The conversation turns from investing to baseball - which are connected, of course, in that both are susceptible to statistical analysis. In Miller's mind, baseball is another venue for unconventional thinking. ("Moneyball," by Michael Lewis, is a favorite book.)

    Bill Miller - a baseball pitcher himself at Washington and Lee, as was Chip Mason in high school - makes no secret of his disappointment with the Orioles' performance. Someday, Miller says, if owner Peter Angelos wanted to sell, he would like to join with Mason and Oriole great Cal Ripken to buy the O's.

    (When you suggest to Miller that his streak is DiMaggio-like, he'll tell you he prefers that it be described as Ripken-like.) Miller's dream team to run the Orioles would include Harvard-educated baseball exec Paul DePodesta, who uses nontraditional, so-called sabermetric principles to analyze baseball.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 27, 2006 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

Turnaround
Miller has had a great turnaround since late Summer.  He truly is one of the best.  
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Nov 27, 2006 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Yum-O.
Is this what is needed to unite pro- and anti-Fremont, and pro- and anti-Bonds factions on AN?
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

I've been wondering
when the anti-Rachel Ray backlash would begin.  I like her well enough I s'pose, but suddenly she is EVERYWHERE and that is a recipe, albeit one you won't find on her cookbooks, for burnout.
"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Nov 27, 2006 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Four shows on the Food Network
and one on ABC.  Are foodies tested for performance-enhancing substances?
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Remember when Emeril got a network show?
No? There's a reason.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, it's on
I think I started it (at AN, anyway) here.
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I've heard Rachel Ray
can make a hell of a watermelon sorbet with a melon that's been given the old sledge-omatic treatement.
"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Nov 27, 2006 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Don Rumsfeld had a cooking show.
But it never made it past the first week. He kept trying to make Bombe Alaska with real bombes.

And you don't even want to try his Lady Fingers.

"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Rachel Ray ...
she's got some great ideas and to me is totally likeable ...

speaking of Food Network shows, I made a great vegan adaptation of the Everyday Italian recipe for Turkey/Cranberry ravioli if anyone is interested. It was a very popular dish among vegans and non-vegans alike at my family's turkey day.

by devo on Nov 27, 2006 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Vegans scare me.
They always have sunken eyes and a kind of manic stare... kind of like James Carville.
"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Nov 27, 2006 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a vegan
and all those non vegans with bulging eyes scare me.
Rickey Henderson: 35, 24, hall of fame!

by Athletics fan and runner on Nov 27, 2006 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean junkies?
And Angels fans?

Yeah, me too.

"That's one osteoporitic offense." - Jeepers, on the SF Giants

by Ozzz on Nov 28, 2006 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

She's easy on the eyeballs, too.
"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Nov 27, 2006 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife
is a fully trained professional chef.  She says that Rachael Ray is a mediocre chef with no technique but a great publicist.

Me, I've never seen her.

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Nov 27, 2006 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope I don't come across as insulting
but what kind of technique do chefs have?
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 27, 2006 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

She is not a chef
Rachael Ray will tell you herself that she is not a chef, she is just a cook.  For what it's worth I saw her on Iron Chef America with Mario Batali (as a team) and she kept saying that she was honored to be a part of the show, but she doesn't think of herself as a chef, she just likes to cook.

by twinkle toes on Nov 28, 2006 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Like Rachel Ray ...
I'm not a professional chef -- I just like to cook. She can help me with that, so I have no complaints.

by devo on Nov 28, 2006 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Who?
"No one really knows whether Geren is a Yes-man. I have a sneaking suspicion he's more of an Anderson Wakeman Bruford and Howe-man." ~ monkeyball

by Poppy on Nov 27, 2006 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

More Manny
ESPN now thinks that Manny could be dealt by Saturday.

I'll believe it when I see it.  The Giants, Dodgers, and Padres are characterized as the most interested suitors, while the Rangers, Angels, Orioles, and Indians are viewed as teams have have opted out of the sweepstakes.

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

Man...
He must be cringing about going to SF or SD.....Big OF to roam and pitcher's parks.....Why would he agree to go to either?
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Nov 27, 2006 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't he a 10/5 Player?
Wouldn't that mean he has to approve any trade?  I'm sure that will cost some team another 3/60 to sign him to an extension.
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Nov 27, 2006 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He has a no-trade clause.
I don't see him making it easy for the Red Sox, either.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly...
I have a hard time seeing him greenlight SD or SF....Would hurt his stats and he would be a joke in the OF.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Nov 27, 2006 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

you'd be on the verge of being a millionaire?
"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 27, 2006 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Osteoporitic?
Shouldn't that be osteoporotic?

I've never seen the word before either way, but hypnosis has hypnotic, psychosis has psychotic, and symbiosis has symbiotic, so it stands to reason that osteoporosis would have osteoporotic.

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Nov 27, 2006 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

You are correct, sir.
I would edit it, but I can't remember if this is the site I frequent that deletes your polls if you edit your diary.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Should be o.k., jeeps...
I edited my bobble diary and the poll stayed intact.
Egg Nog

by Ice Cream on Nov 28, 2006 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

my poll rarely stays intact ...
... when I "edit my bobble diary" ...
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 28, 2006 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Billy Beanes head to be attached to robot.
A's GM will continue on for the next thousand years, once the technology has been perfected.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/11/23/robots.tooreal.ap/index.html
Unfortunately, Ted Williams frozen head, even if thawed, will still have the vision of an old codger, thereby rendering him useless as a hitter. Now, maybe as a coach...
"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 27, 2006 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

Williams's eyes worked fine when he was old
One of the best anecdotes in the late Ron Luciano's The Umpire Strikes Back involves Williams's vision.

One year when Williams was the Senators' manager in the early 70s, Luciano heard him at Spring Training describing how he used to actually see the bat hit the ball when he was made contact at the plate.  Luciano told him that was impossible, and Williams, who was 54 at the time, said he'd show him that he could do it.

Williams took one of his hardthrowing young pitchers to a practice field and, with Luciano wathcing, hit BP with a bat he'd covered with pine tar.  Despite Luciano's misgivings (he thought the old man would embarass hiself), Williams proved he could do it.  In Luciano's (and David Fisher's) words:

  The young pitcher threw a bullet and Williams hit a rocket to center field.  "One seam," he shouted confidently over his shoulder.
   "Sure, Ted," I agreed.  I was just glad he was still able to hit the ball.  Someone retrieved it and brought it over to me.  One seam was covered with pine tar.
   He hit another pitch.  "About a quarter inch above the $#&%$%$% seam," he said.
   That ball had a pine-tar scar just a quarter inch above the seam.  He called five of seven perfectly, the most amazing display of hitting ability I've ever seen.

The man could hit.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Nov 27, 2006 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Russian cosmonaut hits golf ball a million miles..
at least, it will have traveled nearly a million miles when it comes down in a couple of days.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/11/22/spacestation.golf.ap/index.html

"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 27, 2006 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Giving the finger
I gather that Michael Vick flipped the bird--with two hands, no less--at his own Atlanta fans yesterday.  To commemorate the occasion, Page Two waltzes down bird-flipping memory lane.

The article gives the gesture partial credit for one of the more meorable one-sided trades in baseball history, when St Louis sent bird-flipping Garry Templeton to San Diego in exchange for young Ozzie Smith.

And in a local tie in, here's Berkeley's own Billy Martin giving a subtle bat handle finger to the whole world on his 1972 baseball card.

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" --Johnny Rotten

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 27, 2006 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

They sure broke the mold
after Billy was born.

Oh, no, wait.  Billy did that.  Someone left it in the manager's office after the A's 7th loss in a row, and he smashed it to pieces with a fungo bat.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Nov 27, 2006 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

not what I heard
I thought Billy, after hitting the hotel bar, ran into an equally soused original mold-salesman in the elevator.
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 27, 2006 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear
that Buster Onley reported the A's are in deep discussions with Mike Piazza for DH. Supposably this was reported on the Dan Patrick Show today, but I did not hear it myself.

by OaktownIn06 on Nov 27, 2006 3:39 PM PST reply actions  

You misheard...
What was actually said was that the A's are ordering a deep dish pizza.
"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 27, 2006 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

With our budget?
Maybe, MAYBE if the pizza is past its prime.

by mikedaviswhereareyou on Nov 27, 2006 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh
I thought the Giants pizza came with "special sauce" and free juice.  

by mikedaviswhereareyou on Nov 27, 2006 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Eaton Signs with Phills
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2677728

This is a guy I would much rather have than the Tiajuana Turd, but, oh well.

The good news is that he is OUT of the West before he can do any real damage.

Now, who do the Rangers have?

Millwood?

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Nov 27, 2006 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

Shit!
slug bug!
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 27, 2006 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Adam Eaton signs with Philly
3 years/$24 million plus an optional 4th year at roughly $9 million.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2677728

A good deal if the guy stays healthy. A bad deal if his name is Adam Eaton.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Nov 27, 2006 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

Dellucci to the indians
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6211856
"If the fans don't come out to the ball park, you can't stop them."- Yogi Berra.

by bigelephant on Nov 27, 2006 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

OT: Vander-jacked
Bill Parcells sure doesn't screw around, huh?
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

how many Gramatica's are there?
or is it always the same one being signed/released?
"If the fans don't come out to the ball park, you can't stop them."- Yogi Berra.

by bigelephant on Nov 27, 2006 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

There are three, I believe.
This one is the most successful one, Martin (that's Mar-TEEN).  Bill is the idiot who blew out his knee celebrating a 30-yd FG in the first quarter.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

For some reason
Bill is not pronounced "BEEL."
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

"Ah yes, BEEL."
Great movie. Better than the first.
"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Nov 27, 2006 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

As a Cowboys fan...
THANK GOD! Vanderjagt has been about a reliable of a kicker as Arthur Rhodes was a closer. All through that Colts game, I kept hoping that it wouldn't have to come down to a game-winning kick, because I was almost certain that Vanderjagt would've shanked it.
BigLeagueChoo: rerish noooo

Tony Romo > You

by JLaff on Nov 27, 2006 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

True enough
but Martin Gramatica won't save you :-).
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 27, 2006 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh...
I'm starting to think that Vandy is suffering from Byung Hyun Kim-itis after what happened in the playoffs. Plus, it can't hurt to get a fresh leg in, be it "Automatica" or Shaun Suisham. I actually kinda liked Billy Cundiff and it would've been nice to see him get another shot.
BigLeagueChoo: rerish noooo

Tony Romo > You

by JLaff on Nov 27, 2006 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I like cheese
...cheese for president!

by Amnesiac727 on Nov 27, 2006 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

O's interested in jay pay
and maybe vice versa?

link

soo ... is 2007 our rebuilding year again?

by gotgreen on Nov 27, 2006 10:29 PM PST reply actions  

that doesn't sound like much more
than a polite inquiry among others...not that it couldn't turn into something bigger. In other articles it appears that the Orioles' main target was Carlos Lee.

I've no doubt Payton will entertain offers from various clubs. The A's are also supposedly trying to re-sign him.

by OaklandSi on Nov 28, 2006 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus, it's the Orioles
They'll probably hem and haw about signing him and make a contract offer March 30th.
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Poll
Many of you (36%) think McGwire doesn't belong in the HOF--care to share why?
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

my best guess
hollywoodoz got 29 other family members to vote "no".
"If the fans don't come out to the ball park, you can't stop them."- Yogi Berra.

by bigelephant on Nov 28, 2006 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Yanks?
Would they bid that much to guarantee themselves a Japanese pitcher to match the Red Sox?  It would be cool if it was the Red Sox and they were cornering the market on guys with funky windups.  
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Nov 28, 2006 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.
I think it's the Yanks, Mets, or Red Sox.  If it's the Yanks, they might end up being very sorry, because Igawa doesn't throw nearly as hard as Matsuzaka does, and according to Deanna at Marinerds, he's thought of as a head case.  

The Sox may have adopted the position that you should submit a ridiculously high posting fee, win the rights, and exert pressure on the posting team to play ball if they want their player signed.  That will have very interesting consequences for the posting system if true.

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Nov 28, 2006 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Cubs offer ex-Giant Schmidt 45 million dollars!
(places pinky to corner of mouth, Dr. Evil style>

Link is at the bottom of the link in the post above. (How lazy am I?)

"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 28, 2006 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

pretty darn lazy
still using a day-old DLD
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is pathetic

by ArakSOT on Nov 28, 2006 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

It's still relatively fresh...
someone was thoughtful enough to put it in the fridge overnight.
"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Nov 28, 2006 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Then what's that smell?
There's something McRotten around here...
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is pathetic

by ArakSOT on Nov 28, 2006 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

it's a day-old Danish
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 28, 2006 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

it's no match for my orthographic vitriol
People wanted Washington because he would do a better job of establishing the run. -- andeux @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 28, 2006 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

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