It's Geren

by Tony on Oct 17, 2006 1:29 PM PDT

That's what I'm hearing from the poeple I know at the A's. They're in the front office, so I usually take what they say as pretty reliable. That's all I know- don't know details, don't know timeframe. Sorry for the vagueness of the diary. Hope he's not just a younger Macha...

If this ends up being false, you can use this diary for role-playing. You be Macha, I'll be Melhuse.

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Melhuse: "F U Macha!"

COME ON, OAKLAND, COME ON!

by Colorado Fan on Oct 17, 2006 1:27 PM PDT reply actions

Adam:you don't love me!!!!

You NEVER loved me!!!!

Thank you Athletics and AN for a magnificent 2006 to remember ... only 121 days until pitchers and catchers report

by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2006 1:30 PM PDT reply actions

<ignores Tony>

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by salb918 on Oct 17, 2006 1:31 PM PDT reply actions

You guys are screwing this up

I'm Melhuse. You're Macha.

Me: Hey skip, what's up?

You: ......

Me: Did you catch Lost last night, Mach? Crazy, huh?

You: ......

Me: Ok, well, I guess we'll catch up after the game. I'll be the guy at the end of the bench if you want to talk.

You: .....

I'll try not to swear.

by Tony on Oct 17, 2006 1:32 PM PDT reply actions

I'll play.

Although to be honest, you probably have the Macha lines right already.

Tony Melhuse: Hey skip, what's up?

jeepers Macha: Not your playing time.

Tony Melhuse: Did you catch Lost last night, Mach? Crazy, huh?

jeepers Macha: I couldn't believe the backup catcher died.

Tony Melhuse: Ok, well, I guess we'll catch up after the game. I'll be the guy at the end of the bench if you want to talk.

jeepers Macha: Since when are we letting you sit in the dugout?

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Oct 17, 2006 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions

What do you think

<ignores Tony> was all about?

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Oct 17, 2006 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions

<ignores sal>

Some are sabermetricians.

by andeux on Oct 17, 2006 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, I was really confused

So I re-read your post 46 times, and I think you're trying to be like Macha...but, I'm not sure, and now my head hurts!!!!

That, or we posted the same time and I didn't see yours.

I'll try not to swear.

by Tony on Oct 17, 2006 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions

lol

We're even, then.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Oct 17, 2006 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions

only in a statistical sense

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 17, 2006 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Geren is 2-0 as manager:

AN'd his line-up against the M's was better than any that Macha had made all year!!!

"I think we just feel that now is our time." - Nick Swisher

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Oct 17, 2006 1:33 PM PDT reply actions

<chews gum>

"...I say let's get the boys together again and take another shot."

by Jennifer on Oct 17, 2006 1:34 PM PDT reply actions

HWY DOAN YOO GOE ...

Oh, wait. You are.

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 17, 2006 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions

already?

if so, so much for Beane's comment that he would be deliberate in choosing the next manager. Where I work "deliberate" means you actually take some time and put some work into it.

by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2006 1:34 PM PDT reply actions

There's another definition of deliberate.

"by conscious design or purpose".

"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Oct 17, 2006 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm guessing this whole timing thing...

...has a lot to do with what else they're planning to announce this off-season. You know, get the bad stuff out of the way early, then announce Frank's re-signing, then Milton's, then the New Digs, etc.

At least, that's what I hopex3.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Oct 17, 2006 1:41 PM PDT reply actions

The Beane as Megalomaniac Crowd won't like it...

It's a real snoozer of a choice, tho.

by calvin @ Athletics Nation on Oct 17, 2006 1:43 PM PDT reply actions

Oh crap! Kendall broke his ankle again.

Scoot, go grab a catcher's mitt.

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Oct 17, 2006 1:50 PM PDT reply actions

<sends Calero out to pitch....again>

"...I say let's get the boys together again and take another shot."

by Jennifer on Oct 17, 2006 1:51 PM PDT reply actions

I imagine Billy had a good idea

as to which candidate he interviewed last year was going to get the job, so there probably isn't much to the "search".

by Tyler Bleszinski on Oct 17, 2006 1:53 PM PDT reply actions

If this intel is solid I'm going jersey shopping

To be the first on AN with a Geren-tee.

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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 17, 2006 1:55 PM PDT reply actions

BOOOOOOO!!

"...I say let's get the boys together again and take another shot."

by Jennifer on Oct 17, 2006 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions

What, you wanted to be first?

They might be available at The Men's Wearhouse, says George Zimmer.

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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 17, 2006 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Boo, hiss.

by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2006 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions

<<<grooooooooaaaannnn>>>

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Oct 17, 2006 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions

<throws tomato>

Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Oct 17, 2006 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions

you've been geren' up for that, haven't you?

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 17, 2006 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Not if a certain pitcher does it first

You'd get beaten by Haren's Geren-tee.

"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Oct 17, 2006 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions

or if a certain AN'er does it

Sharon's Geren-tee

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 17, 2006 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Or if you stole it from her

You could be wearin' Sharon's Geren-tee

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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 17, 2006 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions

And if she sucked as a reliever...

She could be fearin' Mecir while wearin' Sharon's Geren-tee.

"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Oct 17, 2006 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions

OT Question,

I had purchased tickets for the ALCS games 6 and 7 and have yet to be refunded or receive anything from the A's concerning the refund. Has anyone received anything regarding this?

by SteveUJohnson on Oct 17, 2006 2:00 PM PDT reply actions

I think you may have to take /send them back

in order to get refund.
Season ticket holders can choose to have the monies applied to 2007 season tickets.
Just looked - it is on A's website
http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/oak/ticketing/postseason_guide.jsp

"Listen, my attitude is a whole lot better when we win..." Our favorite GM

by LongTimeFan on Oct 17, 2006 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions

if you paid by CC, the money will go back

on your card within a week. if you paid with cash, you need to mail the tickets back and they will send you a refund check within a few weeks.

by digsthelongball on Oct 17, 2006 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I bought them with CC, but I did the same

with ALDS and I received an email from them stating I would receive a refund. I received the refund for the DS, but I have YET to receive even an email from the A's concerning the refund for the CS tickets. I was wondering if it was the same sort of deal for the CS or if it would take longer.

by SteveUJohnson on Oct 17, 2006 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions

really?

I didnt recieve any type of email with my unused ALDS tickets, but the money was back in my account within a few days.

sorry, im not sure. but i know you can go to tickets.com, and call customer service. they're pretty helpful.

by digsthelongball on Oct 17, 2006 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions

I guess,

a better question would be, has anyone received ALCS Game 6 or 7 refunds yet who purchased the tickets online with a credit card?

by SteveUJohnson on Oct 17, 2006 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions

well, even if they gave all refunds

yesterday, which i highly doubt, your bank probably hasnt gotten around to giving you the money back yet. i would wait until at least thursday, then call tickets.com, then call your bank.

i know, thats annoying. next year, when we make it to the World Series, we wont have to worry about all of this refund nonsense :)

by digsthelongball on Oct 17, 2006 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions

A refund check, sure...

What about a reality check? When do we get those?

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by louismg on Oct 17, 2006 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions

We got one of those last week

:-(

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by salb918 on Oct 17, 2006 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Ouch.

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." -- Connie Mack

by GreenSocks on Oct 17, 2006 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions

geren, lach, or washington

would all be pretty good, i think. they all seem to have relationships w/ the players, and are all far more willing to make adjustments, etc. than macha was.

"welcome to ME, motherf*^*er!" - tim hudson

by guy incognito on Oct 17, 2006 2:08 PM PDT reply actions

It was going to be Geren last year...

why would it change this year?

When I got injured, I felt disrespected. Waaannnh! - Mark Kotsay

by FoolshGame22 on Oct 17, 2006 2:12 PM PDT reply actions

question -

washington really wants to be a manager. i read somewhere (um, probably here?) that he was going to interview with the Rangers. what are the chances that Beane would hire him as manager if faced with a choice between that and losing him?

by digsthelongball on Oct 17, 2006 2:14 PM PDT reply actions

little to none

"Listen, my attitude is a whole lot better when we win..." Our favorite GM

by LongTimeFan on Oct 17, 2006 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

leaning seriously toward "none"

"The Matt Watson/Chiba Lotte Marines Fan Club"-Through Oct 1st: GMS:68,AVG:.271,OBP:.362,SLG:.419, doubles:12, homers:5, RBI:20

by bigelephant on Oct 17, 2006 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions

And moving totally away from little.

"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Oct 17, 2006 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions

wash

I like the idea of keeping him as a bench coach if we don't offer him the manager's job.

Get him some experience in the dugout, help him build his resume a bit.

by MrIncognito on Oct 17, 2006 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

I wouldn't be surprised to see Wash leave...

even if he can't secure a job as a manager somewhere else. He is a top candidate for other open managerial positions and Geren is not. I think if Geren is the choice it will be a slap in the face to Wash and he goes elsewhere.

I miss Bill King :(

by gojohn10 on Oct 17, 2006 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Did you hear the Hummer Ad was...

originally Melhuse and Macha?

Macha: <silence>

Melhuse: They let YOU drive on their test track, Skip?

Macha: <silence>

Melhuse: I can't believe....fuck, this isn't working. If you're an asshole, don't say anything.

Macha: <silence>

Melhuse: <laughs> If you are secretly aroused by Carrot Top, remain silent.

Macha: <silence>

Melhuse: This is too easy. I could do this all day long.

Director: Cut. Guys, we can't use any of this.

by calvin @ Athletics Nation on Oct 17, 2006 2:24 PM PDT reply actions

Amusingly

The Macha dialogue you posit is still more dynamic than the actual Kotsay lines.

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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 17, 2006 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions

God I hope this isn't a totally stupid question

But I don't recall where all the Macha vs. Melhuse stuff comes from. What did I miss? Is this an AN joke, or did something really go down that I just didn't know about? Or is this just from the fact that Macha refuses to let him play?

"This is the best hug in the major leagues, right here!" - Swisher Pics

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Oct 17, 2006 3:06 PM PDT reply actions

slusser article the day before macha was fired

where the mainstream buzz about macha having problems w/ his players began.

"welcome to ME, motherf*^*er!" - tim hudson

by guy incognito on Oct 17, 2006 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Last post-season...

...after it was clear that Macha was leaving, Melhuse went in and ripped-him a new one-or-three, over his non-use during Kendall's first season. Why not indulge himself? After all, Macha was a goner.

Then Macha makes the call, and comes back! Oh, SHIT!

Poor Melhuse had to grovel back in there and allow as to how he might've handled the situation a little better. But it didn't work so well for him. And now, Macha's gone again, but Brown and Barton are waiting in the wings.

...and now you know the REST, of the story.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Oct 17, 2006 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Barton's not waiting in the wings as a catcher

1B/DH, sure.

You have Brown/Suzuki/Powell down there, though.

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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2006 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions

will frank thomas still re-sign if washington

isn't the new manager?

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by larrysgurl on Oct 17, 2006 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

if I was Beane ...

... I'd have fired Macha and would get rid of the mutineer ringleaders as well: let Frank walk, actively shop Kotsay, non-tender Melhuse.

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 17, 2006 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions

gotta luv dat monkeywisdom.

"The Matt Watson/Chiba Lotte Marines Fan Club"-Through Oct 1st: GMS:68,AVG:.271,OBP:.362,SLG:.419, doubles:12, homers:5, RBI:20

by bigelephant on Oct 17, 2006 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions

yeah let's get rid of frank thomas that sounds

like a good idea. who needs offense?

"Very nice day in the Oakland A... Oakland A's? What's this stadium called again?" Nick Swisher on TWIB.

by larrysgurl on Oct 17, 2006 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions

haven't you hear yet?

offense is overrated.

where have you been?

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by bigelephant on Oct 17, 2006 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions

or at least overvalued

by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2006 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions

plenty safer/cheaper options than Frank

Sheffield, for one.

I'm less and less convinced that we should even give Frank 2 guaranteed years, let alone 3. There's even an argument to be made that we cheated fate this year, and that nothing more than a repeat of this year's contract would be advisable.

The revanchism is just an added bonus in this scenario.

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 17, 2006 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Sheffield cheaper than Frank?

by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2006 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Sheffield safer than Frank?

He is almost as old, is coming off a more recent major injury, and is clearly ahead of Frank in the career whining department.

"You are not very good, Dad. You always lose." --Dylan

by dylantravis on Oct 17, 2006 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Sheffield saner than Frank?

Not fucking likely.

Why do people keep mentioning this buffoon as being a positive for a team? If he had any value that wasn't overshadowed by his clubhouse cancerism, the Yankees would just reup his contract.

"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Oct 17, 2006 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Sheffield ?!!!!

The f*** once stated that he deliberately threw games to force a trade. You want someone like that on the A's?

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Oct 18, 2006 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions

uh ...

... yeah, and Jay Payton got into a fistfight with his manager in the dugout in order to force a trade.

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 18, 2006 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions

Yup

But Payton didn't say he threw games. IIRC, Sheffield stated he deliberately threw games, and would continue doing so until he was traded.

I will freely admit that I'm not being rational here; but to me Sheffield commited the ultimate sporting crime: deliberately trying to lose. Since he stated that he did so, I accept what he said at face value.

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Oct 19, 2006 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions

he also admitted using steroids

so that makes him a game throwing juicer with a bad attitude.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 19, 2006 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions

good point

Since I 100% support the lifetime ban on Rose, I'd be remiss and inconsistent if I didn't come down on Sheffield for this.

That being said, (a) Sheff has a history of saying whatever pops into his addled brain, (b) he's never said and there have never been allegations that gambling was involved, and (c) to the best of my knowledge, MLB has never investigated this.

So: if true, yeah, I think Sheffield should receive some sort of punishment. But I suspect it was just Sheff mouthing off.

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 19, 2006 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions

That may yet happen

Not so much in a "that'll teach 'em to complain" sense, but perhaps in a cost-cutting/asset valuation/liquidity sense, as part of the run up to a new park. I don't see Lew doing the Full Loria...but if the A's have concluded they can't go dollar for dollar with the AL West for a few years, it's not too hard to picture an A's team of plucky young up-and-comers positioning themselves for a few years down the road. A low ego manager with a reputation for working with youngsters would fit that model.

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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 17, 2006 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions

might be

All I know is during the Minny series the talk was very hot that Frank would be signing 2 + an option. Billy was "working on it on the plane" on his way to Min. Everyone was excited. But then suddenly there was silence. And then Sue S in the Chron blows the whistle on this apparent dyfunctional clubhouse. I'm probably reading too much into all this. It's probably just all a coincidence. Or maybe we all just entered into The Twilight Zone.

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by bigelephant on Oct 17, 2006 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Kotsay

is getting older, I agree, shop him now and use the mutiny as the smokescreen for the balky back.

by connie mack on Oct 17, 2006 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions

i'd do two out of three

melhuse and kotsay, but not because of this macha stuff. if we can get thomas back at a reasonable price, we have to do it.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 18, 2006 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Do your friends have an office pool?

and put 20 bucks on Geren? Haha.

Seriously Tony, Im still waiting for the Mike Sweeney trade.

"...we don't score six, seven runs. We score three, four runs and play defense and pitch" - Eric Chavez

by pickinmachine on Oct 17, 2006 3:29 PM PDT reply actions

I forgot about that one..

I'm putting my $ on Wash then.

I'll try not to swear.

by Tony on Oct 17, 2006 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Let me be the first to say....

FIRE GEREN NOW!

...aah, that feels good! Things are already returning to normalcy!

If nothing else, he knew how to chew a stick of gum.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Oct 17, 2006 3:39 PM PDT reply actions

Geren was bench coach this year...

...is that an open title that you stash an ineffective staff member in or is there some kind of real effort, talent or responsibility involved? I mean does the bench coach work with or help Crosby or our other young players?

Who is the genius that came up with "take the first strikes" against Rogers? Kenny threw first pitch strikes to 18 of 25 batters! What a mastermind! I'm an old timer, and I believe that kind of "robotic formula managing" in a short series is suicide. That is also why the A's get stuck in quicksand every post season. Player by player the A's have overmatched many playoffs opponents on the field but not in managment.

But those teams actually believed the manager makes a difference! Wow! ...and they won!

Leaving Z in without a curve for strikes, leaving Loaiza in to give up 7 runs, pitching relievers beyond their proven capabilities back to back and too many innings. The A's office made the series with Detroit look like somebody feel asleep at the wheel with the car going 90 during commute hour! But anyone can manage, ...right?

I'm just an old timer overreacting, what does it matter who the manager is? Hell! Macha proved that right? Oops! I guess he can't! He was fired. ...Anyone can do it except Macha.

Anyone can be bullpen coach too!
Geren spent the three previous years; 2003-2005; as bullpen coach!
Talk about your memories!
Rhodes, Dotel, Foulke, Juan Cruz, Duke's tendinitis, Garcia-Cassilla, those consecutive seasons of reliever/bullpen meltdowns, ...complete utter bullpen disasters like that could happen to anyone! Geren just happened to be there! Kind of like an innocent bystander. I keep over reacting! Like a manager or coach is actually doing something!

...Geren and BB are from San Diego! ...What a coincidence! Same High school?

Blez, I think you realize Geren will be Mgr and the reason your essay stresses the over importance placed upon the MGR by some teams is that BB has no real choices. BB treats managers like jokes, mindless puppets, dunces on his short leash to jerk around at will.

What self respecting manager would work for BB? Who would volunteer to take that ridicule and see the media heap story upon story of how Beane considers coaches as functional failures requiring his constant input and direction. Hell, they can't even follow directions!

Welcome on board Mr. Geren!
Green leash, or gold?

Are Rhodes, Dotel, Foulke even in baseball?

by A s Eh on Oct 17, 2006 11:13 PM PDT reply actions

Classic Melheuse-Macha confrontation...

Mel: Hey Macha, I hit a grand slam last night! Can I play today?

Macha: Ummm, errr... ummm errrr...

Mel: What's wrong, skip?

Macha: Ummm, ahem, Kendall threatened my kids, I can't let u play today.

Mel: Don't u know kung-fu or something?

Macha: Umm err..., that doesn't work on Kendall. There will be a simulated game for Rich...

Mel: I'm tired of simulations! C'mon I'm the best offense you got at backstop!

Macha: Hey, hey, hey, relax, its all nebulous.

Mel: Huh?

Macha: uhh... I gotta go deal with Kotsay, you might play after we clinch, but don't count on it.

Let's GO OAKLAND!!!

by OaktownRajah on Oct 18, 2006 12:01 AM PDT reply actions

Yuck...

that what would be the most boring and uninspired choice for manager. Why go through the charade of interviewing other candidates if you are just going to pick your HS buddy? I truly hope Beane has better sense than this. My choice is to roll the dice with Washington. The team needs a manager that they respect and has the cajones to stand up to Beane.

by Miggy on Oct 18, 2006 9:33 AM PDT reply actions

The players do respect Geren:

he is no Wash, but that may be a good thing.

Geren is a former ML catcher who has been a succesful manager in every game he has managed.

Remember this game where we actually sacrificed?!?!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260927112

And look at that line-up!!!!

Or this one when Macha was bleeding in the clubhouse!?!?! WE STOLE A BASE!!!! ANd Saarloos and Flores were used to mop up insted of Calero and Street!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260714102

"I think we just feel that now is our time." - Nick Swisher

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Oct 18, 2006 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions

well, it's likely we will have the opportunity...

to see what Geren can do next season. I don't think he will be a failure, just mediocre. Rather take a risk on someone like Washington who has the potential to be more than just mediocre.

by Miggy on Oct 18, 2006 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions

Wash may be more than just mediocre:

Yet, also a total failure.

I do see him as a leader of men though, and it will be tough to lose him.

I know that Milt and Hurt will miss him for sure. Chavy too...The whole infield...The parking Lot attendants...The chili cheese stand in LF...

"I think we just feel that now is our time." - Nick Swisher

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Oct 18, 2006 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Geren will be an improvement.

Good comments, saint!

Seems like people are underestimating Geren, he'd probably get more respect if he wasn't BB's friend, which is sad -- the dude won't be brilliant and new, but honestly, he seems like he can do a good job.

Any guy that knows how to properly use a bullpen in a mopup situation has my heart. :-)

Maybe the boys should have sent Macha to Applebee's with Swish to get Geren in there a little more!

I don't think we could go wrong with either Geren or Wash, seems a shame that people are so against Geren based on his ties -- both would probably do good things for the team in different ways.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Oct 18, 2006 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions

that is what I meant...

by saying taking a risk on Washington, he could fail but has the same chance at being above average. As for Geren, I just see him as another Howe/Macha type - avreage at best.

by Miggy on Oct 18, 2006 10:08 AM PDT reply actions