An Heir To The King, Of Sorts
Congratulations are in order to Vince Cotroneo, the new "#2 man" in Pirandello's 3 Broadcasters in Search of a Radio Station. Perhaps Vince (is it okay if I call you Vince? I mean, I've heard of you for nearly 24 hours now) will stumble upon this thread, and might even see your comments, who knows? My question today: What is most important to you in a play-by-play announcer? Are you thinking to yourself, "I just hope he __"? What really matters? I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts...
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Always turn to AN for the news...
by NomAd on Jan 14, 2006 5:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I just hope he...
by MrIncognito on Jan 14, 2006 5:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Coherent, for sure and
by ak_A on Jan 14, 2006 6:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Funny you should
by Nico on Jan 14, 2006 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I had forgotten about
by ak_A on Jan 14, 2006 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't.
by salb918 on Jan 15, 2006 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to try very hard
by OaklandSi on Jan 14, 2006 6:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dear Vince
That's all.
Andeux
More specifically?
- Always put the game first, not yourself.
- Let your personality come through (without violating #1).
- Have a sense of humor.
- Establish a good rapport with your partner.
- Don't be too much of a homer and don't fake excitement. Just tell me what's happening, and let the game's emotions come naturally.
- There is no rule 6.
- Find a way to make the game enjoyable even if the A's are losing 17-4. Baseball is supposed to be fun.
- Make me want to tune in again tomorrow.
by andeux on Jan 14, 2006 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent priorities
Overall, I think andeux's list would be a good starting point for any young broadcaster.
by Nico on Jan 14, 2006 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree with...
Games 19 & 20 of the big win streak are perfect example of this from both Ken & the King. None of those emotions are faked or over-done, they were perfect, which is why it's always a thrill to hear them. If the two of them over did every play and homered us with a lot of BS excitement, those two moments lose their impact on us and would have meant nothing.
The only thing I'd add to that list is #9: During the first year, just sit back and take in Ken's style and learn. You don't have to mimic him in any way, just understand what he does and infuse it with your own.
And oh, what the hell, (for the sake of a certain AN member who desperately needs an even list) #10: There is no rule #6, consequently, there is no rule #10 either.
by DMOAS on Jan 14, 2006 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What, no #9?
by salb918 on Jan 15, 2006 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree more
One fun idea aside from that would be when there's a break in the action, or during a real blowout game, to even ask Ken and Fosse about the A's players, coaches, front office, etc. and discuss. Nobody could possibly expect you to know everything about the organization, having just come here. Those conversations would likely be enjoyable and provide insight for many listeners, too.
by still bills kingdom on Jan 14, 2006 8:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That is such a good idea
by TomB on Jan 16, 2006 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
please, oh please let this not be true
I'm praying that Mitchell's (insert MST3K joke here) comments about him being an ego maniac are as another poster characterized as coming from "an idiot whose small mind and self serving ego is so frail that you lashed out at Vince Cotroneo with unfounded criticism".
Either way, welcome to the club Vince.
by gallopingael on Jan 14, 2006 9:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I saw that, but
by Nico on Jan 14, 2006 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK...I got one...
Servo: "By the quart."
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jan 15, 2006 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rule 11...
Rule 12: Ken Korach had to replace Lon Simmons, try, if it's possible, to listen to Ken's first couple of years to get an idea of how to assimilate yourself into the booth following the departure of a true legend.
Rule 13: if all else fails follow rule #11
by dpetri2000 on Jan 14, 2006 10:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
please no "insider" phrases...
If I hear another announcer say "Grab some pine, meat" I'll hurl something at them.
Please don't say "Say hello to my liddle freend" in a cuban scarface accent like those guys on espn always do.
don't do the bermanisms...("Roberto Remember the Alomar" etcetc)
Don't use trendy phrases that you hear on reality TV shows. People don't really talk like that.
I heard the guy on lurie's show the other night, and he doesn't sound like he's got it in him to do any of this stuff. Just "keep it real", right...?
by giambizombie on Jan 14, 2006 10:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've got some advice for you, g-zombie
"Keep it real"-- absolutely!
by Brian in 317 on Jan 15, 2006 7:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
vocabulary
Also, is it too much to ask that the new guy be more interested in the A's than in the Giants?
You'd think that would go without saying, but then....
by iglew on Jan 14, 2006 11:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The VC era
Texas and Oakland are much, much different markets, which actually may bode well for you, considering they accused you of not connecting with the fans there.
As a collective group, I think I can safely say it makes us happy that Texans would not bond with you. Damn dirty chair throwers...
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 15, 2006 12:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Mention the score frequently
Johnny Miller is of the old school like that when he is on radio. I hear him a lot because he broadcasts alot of my 2nd favorites team's games.
People join games in progress, they run errands and are in and out of the car. Give the score and the inning often so they can get a feel for the drama of a given situation. You just might draw them in and keep them listening.
by ConcordFanSince1968 on Jan 15, 2006 8:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think Red Barber...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jan 15, 2006 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A "handlebar mustache" of course...
Andeux nailed it with the rules... I hope Ken & Vic become good friends, and more laughter is brought in with the addition of Ray!
by BillyBall 81 on Jan 15, 2006 9:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
easy
show a small amount of excitement when the home team excels
never disparage the opposing team
by eastcoaster on Jan 15, 2006 9:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
paint a picture of the game
by BruceBochte on Jan 15, 2006 11:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don't be...
by seedspeed on Jan 15, 2006 11:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes
by doublehustle22 on Jan 15, 2006 12:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rule 78: Be a human being.
We will, in turn, pay homage often.
by Ozzz on Jan 15, 2006 3:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Be witty & funny
by As Man on Jan 15, 2006 4:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Advice for Vince?
"Be courteous, kind and forgiving,
Be gentle and peaceful each day,
Be warm and human and grateful,
And have a good thing to say.
Be thoughful and trustful and childlike,
Be witty and happy and wise,
Be honest and love all your neighbors,
Be obsequious, purple and clairvoyant.
Be pompous, obese, and eat cactus,
Be dull and boring and omnipresent,
Criticize things you don't know about,
Be oblong and have your knees removed.
Be tasteless, rude and offensive,
Live in a swamp and be three-dimensional,
Put a live chicken in your underwear,
Get all excited and go to a yawning festival."
Words all of us could learn something from.
by Nick on Jan 15, 2006 6:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And, of course,
by Nico on Jan 15, 2006 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I'll bite...
(sorry, bro.)
Can't wait till Spring Training!
by NomAd on Jan 15, 2006 9:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Via Catfish Stew
I'm a longtime D/FW resident.
Cotroneo got fired here because Rangers owner Tom Hicks didn't think he was enough of a blatant homer. He's a professional, and you'll like him OK.
by salb918 on Jan 15, 2006 11:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Three Points
Silky, deep, scratchy... whatever. As long as it doesn't get in the way.
2. Cadence.
Fosse doing play-by-play is a good example of poor cadence. Love his color work though.
3. An ability to build tension properly.
#3 is the one that gets me with most announcers. Bill King and Lon Simmons really spoiled me growing up, because there was almost never a play where the end result surprised me based on their calls. For example, there was never a "fly ball, left field, home run" moment from either one of them. They conveyed the tension I would feel about a play if I were sitting in the stands watching myself.
by ToddyBaseball on Jan 16, 2006 12:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great point about #2
by Nico on Jan 16, 2006 9:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Vince
Give him time, he will be different to what we've been used to, but you will like him.
by mikeburnstx on Jan 25, 2006 1:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs





















