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Recap of Selig speech at Commonwealth Club

I'm clipping this from the ballpark blog because, well, I wrote it so I'm not going to call myself out for copyright violations.

BTW, Blez, have you ever been asked for a business card when getting a media credential? I felt a little sheepish about that. I have business cards from my day job, but those won't exactly work. I did beat work several years ago, and I have to admit the blogosphere has changed things immeasurably.

Enjoy.
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Bud Selig's speech and subsequent Q&A session was about an hour long total. The speech was a brief history of Selig's time as an owner, then as the commissioner. Not naturally the most charismatic of speakers, Selig's sporadic eye contact with the audience made the delivery fairly dull, and the speech an exercise in self-aggrandizement. As expected, Selig didn't say anything to encourage San Jose supporters. In fact, his statements should provide some hope for Oakland supporters, though no one should be proclaiming Selig as the savior of baseball in Oakland just yet.

Notes: The audio stream of the event will be played on KQED-FM on Friday night at 8 p.m. An AP article is now available on the Chronicle's SF Gate site.

Selig was initially flanked by former Commonwealth Club president Joe Epstein and, somewhat surprisingly, County Assessor Larry Stone, better known as an irritant for East Bay supporters. Stone emceed the event, and before he finished his introduction of Selig, he plugged the MLB-to-San Jose effort, almost on cue.

Notes from the speech portion:

    * MLB will surpass last season's league attendance record by the end of the current season.
    * He talked up the significant rise in the value of the Dodgers franchise when it changed hands from the O'Malleys to Fox and finally to Frank McCourt. He did not let slip an estimate of the Expos' eventual selling price.
    * Moneyball was mentioned as a subject that is "theological in nature."
    * Revenue sharing, payroll taxing (luxury taxes), and the debt service rule are the base of the current financial structure. He sees little need to change the structure in the near future.
    * The speech was littered with quotes from Mark Twain, Thomas Wolfe, and Doris Kearns Goodwin.
    * Steroids is cheating. The only other substance mentioned was andro, and only as a historical reference. No mention of HGH.
    * He noted that in the midst of all of the media's criticism of how MLB handled steroids during the 90's, he looked up articles written during the era and saw only "11 articles that mentioned steroids."

The Q&A was done via responses to selected questions the audience submitted on comment cards. Only 10 questions were answered, one of which was a throwaway question about the commish's relationship with George Steinbrenner. Here's the skinny on the question segment:

1. What happened to the Reggie Jackson group's bid to buy the A's?

    * Selig claims it was Schott/Hofmann that decided to not entertain Jackson. He acknowledged that this contradicts Schott's initial statements on the matter, but insisted that it was the ownership group that made the decision, noting that the commissioner's office doesn't have to time interfere with these things. MLB will only step in when it's time to evaluate a group's financial worthiness.

2. Any thoughts on the idea of limits to the number intentional walks a batter can receive (Bonds rule)?

    * Not happening. No way baseball will change rules for a single individual.

3. Is a salary cap in the future?

    * "I'm comfortable where we are," Selig said.

4. What's being done about tight-fisted owners who pocket revenue sharing money instead of spending it on players?

    * "That phenomenon is a myth that somehow keeps getting perpetuated," said Selig. According to Selig, the league shares the books with the owners, and the payers (big market "have" teams) wouldn't stand for any prolonged effort by other owners to stash the money. Again, he reinforced the notion that the baseball's economic model is good.

5. What about the influence of international players?

    * This gave Selig the chance to tout the World Baseball Classic. He did this during the speech as well.

6. Is the DH rule going to change anytime soon?

    * The DH was one of the few things on which he agreed with former A's owner Charlie Finley (Yes for the AL). He's happy with the way it stands since the teams in the two leagues are happy with the existing rules. (A good follow-up would've been to ask for his take on using the DH in NL-hosted games and the hitting pitcher in AL-hosted games, but there was no opportunity for follow-ups.)
    * The only change he might see happening is a geographical redistribution of teams, but he didn't get specific.

7. What is the league doing about steroids and its impact on records?

    * Without outright saying it, Selig indicated that he's leaving the records alone and will keep them asterisk-free. We'll see if that holds up if any other high-profile sluggers are shown to have used.

8. What about the exclusivity of territorial rights?

    * Repeating a statement he made weeks ago, Selig said, "You couldn't run the sport without internal rules and you can't make exceptions."
    * The Giants' territorial rights were affirmed when they made the huge private investment in SBC Park.
    * His feelings on relocation are heavily shaped by the Braves' move to Atlanta. Besides the territorial rights issue, he appears to be stridently anti-move, though his statements about the situation in Miami raise questions about that.
    * Regarding San Jose, he said that "San Jose is a great location, but that's not the issue. We have to protect the status quo. We're clearly not going to expand."

9. Epstein posed a follow-up: "Is there a process by which a vote could be taken by the owners to overturn these rights?"

    * "No. It's not a question of overturning rights," replied Selig. I'm not certain if the response meant that he would not allow it to come to vote, or whether he was rendering his opinion on the outcome of a vote. Surely the owners would not vote for anything that could potentially threaten their own financial well-being.
    * He trumpeted the party line about "staying focused on Oakland." The question of what would happen if the Oakland deal didn't succeed was not asked.

The San Jose boosters I overheard upon leaving didn't appear discouraged, least of all Larry Stone. While Selig dismissed the idea of overturning the Giants' territorial rights, that's the weakest option because it's the least realistic. Maury Brown of Business of Baseball and the Oregon Stadium Campaign and I have had this discussion in the past, and I agree with him that for the A's to move anywhere, whether it's San Jose, Portland, Vegas, or Sacramento, the bidding group needs to make an extremely compelling case - not just to a single affected owner, but to all 30 owners and MLB. Oakland, with its location and access, is hard to argue against. Any bids to move the team will have to be comprehensive, probably including packaged TV and radio deals and lists of pre-committed corporate sponsors (because those are Oakland's weak points currently). Without those requirements, I doubt any bid would be entertained.

Remember that in Wolff's press conference last month, he talked about the ability of the East Bay business market to fill the 40 luxury suites and 40 minisuites (plus club seats) that he wants to build in the new ballpark. It stands to reason that he'll compare that to other market studies, determine the costs and risk factors, and then decide - if it even gets to that point.

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huh?
Moneyball was mentioned as a subject that is "theological in nature."
If I weren't playing baseball, I'd be... "in the Ultimate Fighting Championship." -Rich Harden

by xbhaskarx on Sep 8, 2005 2:07 AM PDT reply actions  

He means it's a holy scripture
In the sense that people use Moneyball as an ultimate reference when it comes to the executive side of baseball.
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by Genaro on Sep 8, 2005 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

That, and...
the religious fervor of the debates that took place after the book was published.

by vertig0 on Sep 8, 2005 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he may be comparing it to the debate
of creationism vs. evolution.  One side can't convince the other.

by blueconversechucks on Sep 8, 2005 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's very doubtful-
that Bud even knows what "theological" actual means.
We're not dunderheads here...

by bigelephant on Sep 8, 2005 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he meant to say "theoretical"...
...but who really knows with him?
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Sep 8, 2005 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks so much for posting this
(although I would've read it anyway on your excellent blog)

I love how Moneyball -- a business strategy book -- has shaken the baseball world to its core. Saying that the "debate" is "theological" is like saying you can't even have the conversation becasue it's one about faith, not provable facts. incredible.

I really think that if the A's are ever moved out of Oakland (and I dearly hope not) they will also leave the Bay Area -- and may well leave Northern California entirely.

by OaklandSi on Sep 8, 2005 2:41 AM PDT reply actions  

that's how i understood it
"Saying that the "debate" is "theological" is like saying you can't even have the conversation becasue it's one about faith, not provable facts. incredible."
If I weren't playing baseball, I'd be... "in the Ultimate Fighting Championship." -Rich Harden

by xbhaskarx on Sep 8, 2005 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

This diary is why I love AN
On my way into work this morning, I heard a quick comment about Selig's speech. I flipped on my computer thinking that someone at AN may have provided more detail.

Ahem.

Thank you so much. I couldn't have asked for more.

by eebie on Sep 8, 2005 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Couldn't have asked for more?
What about coffee/donuts?
"HRs by second basemen are sexy. They're rare and exotic." -Kyli

by McFood on Sep 8, 2005 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always with the Food
Actually, now that you mention it, I could use a tasty bite of some nice dark chocolate. Mmmmmm... choooocccooollllaatte. And Apricot still owes me a cookie.
The A's offense, just like Lazarus, rising from the dead! - Bill King, Sept 7

by eebie on Sep 8, 2005 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

When Wolff Demonstrates That Oakland
cannot provide a site for a new stadium, the 30 MLB owners and Selig will reconsider the San Jose option. Just wait and see...

by reztips on Sep 8, 2005 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

"I'm confortable where we are"
is his answer on the salary cap?  I'm completely shocked, especially after the NHL lockout settlement.  I would've expected the owners to be out for player blood.  It's possible that with the steroid controversy, the owners are unwilling to engage in an all-out war with the players.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 8, 2005 9:45 AM PDT reply actions  

That's "comfortable"
not "confortable".
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 8, 2005 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

All Selig cares about is MLB making a profit;
given this, he doesn't care about the far more level playing field seen in other professional sports as the way things stand, the big market teams will continue to do well and make big bucks for all concerned...

Thus the farce that is MLB's inequities will continue. And indeed, let's give a big cheer for helping perpetuate this to the spoiled children of what's laughing called the Players' "Union."

by reztips on Sep 8, 2005 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Salary caps
have nothing to do with a "level playing field", and everything to do with guaranteeing a limit on expenses and, thus, guaranteeing a profit.  Owning an NFL team now is essentially a license to print money, since there's a pretty severe limit on how much you're going to spend, and evidently no limit on how much you can charge people for PSLs, parking, exhibition game tix, beer, food, downpayments on playoff tickets, "reservation fees" so you can be on the season ticket waiting list...it just goes on and on.

The owners don't want a salary cap in order to create more competition or make the game more affordable.  They want it so they can make more money.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 8, 2005 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nick is right on
Salary caps are not about leveling the playing field, they are all about putting as much money in the owners pockets as the owners can get.  Owning an NFL team is a license to rape and pillage.  There is a reason that expansion teams (even with severe revenue limitations) are going for $800M in the NFL, it is because the team owner will be able to print money.  How many other businesses are you gauranteed a profit?  I for one am glad that Major League Baseball does NOT have a salary cap.  If George Steinbrenner wants to spend himself into oblivion I say let him.

by skwid on Sep 8, 2005 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd disagree Nick:
I don't think you can possibly argue that there isn't a level competitive playing field in the NFL. Although the Pats have done extremely well over the past 3 or 4 yrs, it seems any NFL team has a chance to be competitive every yr. If an NFL team is well operated there is no excuse for not playing competitive football. Plus, I don't hear too many NFL players crying poor...do you?

MLB is the only professional sporting league without a salary cap. It needs one...badly. You speak about greedy owners only concerned about lining their pockets with cash. That's exactly what is happening under the current system...BUT only by a few powerful chosen owners (NY, BOS).

The day when the MLBPA and a few powerful/greedy owners so come to the inevitable conclusion that MLB needs a salary cap the better.

We're not dunderheads here...

by bigelephant on Sep 8, 2005 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

level competitive playing field
In the NFL this is an illusion caused by the short schedule.  Imagine if the baseball season were only 16 games long and playoffs consisted of 1-game "series".  

The other posters are absolutely correct- salary caps are there to make owners richer and are a complete abomination on the national sporting landscape.  Profit sharing is what helps maintain a competitive playing field.  Salary caps simply exist because most players unions aren't bright or organized enough to avoid them (and the owners are better suited to weather the financial losses of shutdowns than the players are).

RFB

by Tim J on Sep 8, 2005 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Level playing field
You could argue that one effect of the cap has been a level playing field -- I'm not sure I'd agree, but you can argue it -- but that wouldn't prove that that was the intended effect of the cap.  Like you could also argue that one effect of the cap is to make the quality of play in the NFL incredibly crappy and inconsistent -- I think that's a side effect, not an intended effect.  I maintain that the intended effect is just to let the owners keep more of the money.  Remember the big strike in '83, when guys like Montana and Craig, IIRC, stabbed their teammates in the back by scabbing?  I remember the issue then being free agency.  Remember how the owners all said, "No, free agency would ruin the game!  Guys would change teams every year, the quality of play would suffer and no one would want to watch any more."  Real heartbreaking.  Now the owners basically get to write the rules and what do we have?  Massive player turnover and lousy football -- but it's on the owners' terms with them keeping more and more money and having more and more of the power, which were the real issues all along.

Plus, I don't hear too many NFL players crying poor...do you?

Well, I mentioned TO in my previous comment.  He's certainly pissed off about his contract, as is his teammate Michael Westbrook.  Virtually every guy who gets "franchised" gets angry about it, too.  The thing is, the players really don't seem to like the system, nor should they:  contracts are one-way streets, permanently binding on the player unless the club unilaterally cuts him.  That's just ridiculous, but the players don't seem to have figured out that they could stand together against this as a union and force the NFL to agree to a different rule.

I agree that owners are greedy in every sport.  They're owners.  Blaming them for being greedy, money-grubbing, ticket-price-raising, taxpayer-money-sucking leeches is like blaming a lion for being mean to a herd of wildebeast.  It's what they do.  The difference in football is that the owners keep much, much more of the revenue for themselves and share less with the players.  I think the players are the ones who earned it and they deserve as much as they can squeeze from their bosses.  Unfortunately the NFL players have a wretched track record in building power against their bosses.  So they lose.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 8, 2005 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

"benevolent sporting industry"
True, there are many things wrong with MLB (and maybe society when we're willing to pay  individuals millions to play football/baseball) but to only blame "the greedy owners" is rather simplistic. Owners are business-people. Its doubtful they purchase MLB teams to lose money because they think "its the right thing to do" for some "higher meaning". No, they want some type of dividend for their purchase...isn't that to be expected?

Furthermore, the term "union"-as it relates to professional athletes-is a joke. I mean, please, multi-millionaires taking "strike action" because they care about their "union brothers"!!! Surely you can't believe this fantasy. When given the chance (i.e. free agency) professional sports athletes act like whores flying in and out of cities like rock stars with their greedy scum sucking agents with their highlite video packages and glossy "personal stats sheets" looking to play one owner of the last guy for that extra mil or that extra year on the contract. At the very least, pro athletes belong to "associations"- but never "unions". My buds who work at a GM plant laugh big-time when pro athletes speak about "their union brothers".

We're not dunderheads here...

by bigelephant on Sep 9, 2005 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

The "union"
The MLBPA is a pretty good example of the limitations of American business unionism -- although it's democratically run, the electeds at the top seem uninterested in much substantive input from the members.  On the other hand, the players do understand one essential thing: they must stick together through thick and thin, or the owners will screw them over 8 ways to Sunday.

If you want to put quotes around a players' union, take a look at the NFLPA and Gene Upshaw.  The football players have proven to the owners that they're a bunch of backstabbing scabs who can't trust each other with as much as a quarter, they have a President who's main strategy seems to be waiting for Tagliabue to make a decision and then agreeing, and guess what -- they've gotten what they deserve:  a violent sport, no guaranteed contracts, constant disruption as they get cut and moved around, and low pay compared to other American athletes, especially considering how much money they rake in for the NFL.

But until they address these problems as a union, together rather than one-by-one (hello, TO?) they'll never have the power to change things.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 8, 2005 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

You must have left before the end ...
... when Bud demanded the sacrifice of a live virgin on the stage, drank her blood, and then drew back shrieking from a shaft of sunlight penetrating the deep-scarlet velvet curtains ...
logic monkeyball depresses me. I need a cupcake. -- batgirl

by monkeyball on Sep 8, 2005 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Da-yum!
I got goosebumps!
"HRs by second basemen are sexy. They're rare and exotic." -Kyli

by McFood on Sep 8, 2005 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weren't those ...
... what AL players got from being hit by fastballs from Rich Gossage?
logic monkeyball depresses me. I need a cupcake. -- batgirl

by monkeyball on Sep 8, 2005 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

great family act
... when Bud demanded the sacrifice of a live virgin on the stage, drank her blood, and then drew back shrieking from a shaft of sunlight penetrating the deep-scarlet velvet curtains ...

Yeah that was awesome. Then he started biting the heads of doves, and then started snorting cockroaches and non-dairy creamer.

At the end, there was a shocked silence and then the moderator comes out and says, "That was one heck of an act. What do you call yourselves?"

Bud replies, "Sir Bud and the Sophisticates!"

Fun for the whole family.

by Apricot on Sep 8, 2005 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

And to think that I was thirsty
so I left the place almost at once. Oh well, Bud wouldn't have shared his chalice with me anyway. Speaking of which, he certainly got a little cottonmouth on the podium.

by vertig0 on Sep 8, 2005 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Selig probably said more than you heard
But he probably had everyone asleep in 15 minutes

AM I RIGHT??

by Rob @ Athletics Nation on Sep 8, 2005 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

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