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Tonight's wrap-up is a veritable potpourri, brought to you by AFLAC: When you need some insurance runs, call on the AFLAC duck every time.

  • Another terrific outing by Joe Blanton, whose fastball location remains top-notch and whose breaking ball looks sharper these days. Here's an eye-popping stat that has a sample size of 136.1 innings: In months that aren't May, Cupcakes has an ERA for the season of 2.31. Wow.
  • When an inning starts with a bunt single, followed by a 2-run HR, is that "small ball" or "Moneyball"? Answer: It's good baseball, folks. The two concepts aren't mutually exclusive (and for that matter, bunt singles don't make outs anyway). Nicely done, A's.
  • Something I've really noticed is that there seem to be two aspects of the A's offense that really correlate with the A's good offensive stretches. One is that as the A's RISP goes, the offense goes. This is not surprising, since hits with RISP have a tendency to score runners. But the other one is that good offensive stretches seem to correlate with periods when the A's use aggressive baserunning. Tonight, Kendall and Kotsay in the 1st inning really set the tone. Then Chavez helps to manufacture a run with a rare A's steal. This is the "small ball" side of the A's I'd like to see 162 games/year: there are many ways to be aggressive and proactive on the bases besides attempting steals. As an example, when the A's start tagging up from first, I always know they're locked in as a team.
  • Speaking of Chavez and thievery, Chavy is a very underrated base-stealer. With tonight's steal, he is now 40/55 (73%) for his career, and 36/47 (77%) since the start of the 2001 season.
  • Tough night for the former A's, as Miggy makes an important error, goes hitless and strikes out in two key situations, and Byrnes makes an error while looking overmatched at the plate all night.
  • Huston Street has the lowest ERA of any AL reliever, including Mariano Rivera. And it's no fluke.

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Go A's!!!
Hell of a game, 1.5 games back baby!

by gojohn10 on Aug 26, 2005 7:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Hear hear!
Enjoyed talking school with you tonight. :D
An optimist lives in the best of both worlds and a pessimist fears that it's true.

by Chavinator on Aug 26, 2005 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey cirquegirl
You. Me. IM. Now.

(P.S. How in the heck did you get those pics on Village Photos? :?)

An optimist lives in the best of both worlds and a pessimist fears that it's true.

by Chavinator on Aug 26, 2005 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I put them on villagephotos.com
Duh. smirk
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1438381

by Squeaky on Aug 26, 2005 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah A's!
Hi winning! We missed you!
BOOM!

by Squeaky on Aug 26, 2005 7:59 PM PDT reply actions  

If Street
doest win the ROY something is wrong with the voters. His stats are so amazing he should be considered for the rolaids relief man of the year award also.

by zaniac75 on Aug 26, 2005 8:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the statistics pick Rolaids
winner.  No voting, just wins + saves + etc.

ROY sounds good, though!  

Go Oakland!  One and one-half back!

by Ducts on the Pawn on Aug 26, 2005 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just for kicks
Rolaids Relief Man Standings as of Aug. 25:

PITCHER, TEAM W L SV TOUGH BLOWN PTS
------------- - - -- ----- ----- ---
  1. Mariano Rivera, NYY       6       3   33      2      4      99
  2. Joe Nathan, MIN           5       3   32      0      3      94
  3. Dustin Hermanson, CHW     0       2   31      3      2      88
  4. Eddie Guardado, SEA       1       1   29      0      2      83

T5. Danys Baez, TB           5       3   29      4      7      81 
T5. Bob Wickman, CLE 0 4 33 0 5 81
  1. Francisco Rodriguez, LAA  2       3   30      2      5      80
  2. Francisco Cordero, TEX    2       1   28      1      6      75
  3. B.J. Ryan, BAL            1       3   27      4      5      71
  4. Miguel Batista, TOR      5       5   23      4      5      63

Huston Street, OAK           4       1   17     ?       4      49+

I don't know how many of Huston's 17 saves were tough (coming in with the tying run on base), but you know he's have a few, so his point total is really in the 50s. One would think that if Street was the closer all season, he'd be right in the thick of this race. But oh well...not bad in any case.

Tough Saves    +4
Saves          +3
Relief Wins    +2
Relief Losses  -2

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 27, 2005 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Street's case
is certainly getting stronger every week. It's kind of a weird rookie field this year, with lots of decent candidates but no slam dunk winner, and a variety of types: a Japanese veteran (Iguchi), a starter (Chacin), a closer (Street), a high-profile slugger with very average BA/OBP numbers (Swisher), a big-market player (Cano), a glut on one team (Street, Swisher, Blanton, Johnson), and so on.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

When discussing the '05-06 NBA rookies ...
... if it's a similar park with no particular standout, will you say that there's no "walk-off, grand slam" candidate?
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it makes you happy,
I'll make sure to do that. Happy monkey is good monkey. <strokes monkey gently>
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a tagline for someone
"<strokes monkey gently>"
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

ewww, you want to pet the rally monkey
i hate the angels
"Oakland is home, and you always want to go home. Anytime you get the chance, you're happy to go home." - #24 Rickey Henderson

by burnone on Aug 27, 2005 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jonny Gomes
arguably has better numbers than Swish all the way around.

by Pucking Insane on Aug 26, 2005 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but
Jonny Gomes and Jhonny Peralta arguably need to resolve their deep issues with the letter 'h'.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

You Rule!!!!!
That Diary was awesome, and this comment was very creative as well.

by gaucho on Aug 26, 2005 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Street should win the ROY award...
...hands down.

HOWEVER, Cupcakes Blanton should now be in the top five.

Chavvy's catch was the #1 WebGem of tonight. Just another awesome night for the green and gold.

Welcome back steady offense. See? No drama needed. Can we keep it? PLEASE???

Best Coliseum promotion of the year? 2005 Oakland A's baseball.

by baseballgirl on Aug 26, 2005 8:11 PM PDT reply actions  

4 out of the 5 ROY choices are on the A's
imo.  that is awesome.  we are going to be so rediculously good in 2-3 years.  and A-mazingly good now and next year.  sheesh  4 of the top 5.  
"Oakland is home, and you always want to go home. Anytime you get the chance, you're happy to go home." - #24 Rickey Henderson

by burnone on Aug 27, 2005 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

In May, the media
declared the failure of the "Moneyball" draft, which included Swisher and Blanton.
Let us not continue to debate how many Angels can be dashed on the head of a pin. Let's just get to it while the gettin' is good.

by Checkswing HR on Aug 27, 2005 4:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm
that makes sense he probably doesnt have a shot at it since he hasnt been the closer that long. Oh well he's going to have that award wrapped up for a long time starting next year.

by zaniac75 on Aug 26, 2005 8:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty solid game all around
  1. What really impresses me about Blanton is how controlled he looks out there. He never looks fazed as some young pitchers can.
  2. To me, one mark of a great pitching staff is being able to get out of impossible situations once they get oh-so-close. The A's did it twice tonight--in the first and in the seventh. Once they got that all important second out, they shut things down. Tampa (although they got out of a tough situation later in the game) couldn't do it in the first inning, after getting Garret Anderson to K with the bases loaded and one out. Its something I've noticed about Kansas City as well.
  3. I'm a little confused as to why Blanton was taken out when he was. Especially with the staff short a man since Kennedy is starting tomorrow. Calero hasn't been particularly effective recently, and I question the judgment of bringing him in in such a close game. Blanton could have gone another inning.
  4. Hatteberg and Kielty back-to-back is a black hole. How predictable were those ground balls in the fifth? I understand the impulse to give Swisher a night off, but I would have put Melhuse in at DH in a heartbeat--if Kendall gets hurt, is it really any worse to have Danny Haren pinch hit?
But in general, a good game for the A's. Tight defense, somewhat timely hitting--nice to see them win a game when they didn't have it all going offensively.
"Vee vill bury you!"--Bill Stoneman (via Monkeyball)

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

As a Melhuse proponent,
I do understand not starting him vs LHP. Too bad we didn't have a right-handed power hitter to start at DH. Maybe we can find one this Ginter. Oops, sorry, typo--of course, I meant Winter.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah
Melhuse against LHP isn't probably the best idea. Ginter or Scutaro would have been a better option against Chen IMO, Hatteberg does nothing in that lineup. I can't remember the last time I've seen him even have a good swing.

Kielty I understand, even though he seriously sucks right now. What happened to him?

"Vee vill bury you!"--Bill Stoneman (via Monkeyball)

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wins are masking the Hatte problem
Brilliant job tonight by Blanton and Rincoln.  That was a very clutch win against a team the A's have had problems with this year.

I still think that having Hatteberg as DH is going to cost the A's game down the stretch.  

by DKNJ on Aug 26, 2005 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

First of all,
don't leave out Calero, who only gave up a bunt and a squibber, and made clutch pitches to Miggy.

Devil's advocate on Hatty: He has so remarkably consistent throughout his career, always hitting in the .275-.280 range with high OBP...except when injuries or fatigue have dragged him down. That would suggest that if healthy down the stretch, you can count on Hatty for his usual .275/.360, which is precisely what he was doing for this season up until his injury.

Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well ...
... the only significant time off Hatteberg has gotten this year has been in the last couple of weeks -- when he's been injured.

And he still looks awfully uncomfortable.

I really, really, really don't understand Beane and Macha's approach to managing injured position players.

It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I think their theory
is that 21 is an unlucky number, so if you have a 25 man roster where you refuse to let Ginter, Yabu, or Melhuse play, you don't want to add Hatteberg to that list just because he's hobbling and tripping over his walker on the pitch low and away.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then why'd they resign Kotsay?
"The difference between Jose Canseco and Kobe Bryant is that Kobe doesn't believe in giving his teammates any shots." -Jay Leno

by vignette17 on Aug 26, 2005 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Injured?
No one is injured here. Nothing to see. We're peachy. This team doesn't know the meaning of "injured".
You may have to wear a protective helmet.

by Jennifer on Aug 26, 2005 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ineffective leadoff hitter?
Where? Not here. 0/4 again? Deceptive--one ball ripped to shortstop on just a few hops and a deep drive lofted to medium center. Everything is fine, and please don't look at the stats.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I think they do...
May was one, big, nasty injury. The kind you don't show to people at the dinner table.
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 27, 2005 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hatty should have been DL'ed
when he first hurt his stomach muscles.

by OaklandSi on Aug 27, 2005 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so
Maybe I have a bad taste in my mouth because of last year.  Hatteberg is clearly due for a few good weeks if you believe in his track record.  I am just a bit skeptical, but I hope I am wrong.

by DKNJ on Aug 26, 2005 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Calero was very good
I honestly think he would have gotten out of that inning had Macha given him the chance. I just didn't think it was a good idea to go to him in the first place.

As for Hattie--the guy is almost 36. It might just be decline. I like him, I always will--but I think the days of him as a regular player are over. He might thrive in a pinch-hitting role---good for him to get the pressure of having to produce every day off his chest.

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still think it's just the muscle strain
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

regardless, though
if he's injured or healthy, he doesn't look good up there. Its not like he's hitting any balls hard. If he is still injured, he should have been DL'd so he could completely recovered. An injured Hatty isn't doing anything for the team.

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%
He should have been DL'ed three weeks ago. There's only one reason to have him in the lineup now: to increase the opposing pitcher's pitch-count. (Of course, if we could impose discipline up and down the lineup, that wouldn't be necessary.)

While I don't think Hatte's necessarily done/in decline, I do think there's no excuse for playing him right now.

But then I also think Ginter should have been in Sacto since May, yadda yadda yadda ...

It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

all the A's pitchers did well in Friday's game
those hits off Calero (and the "error" by Ellis) leading to the run were just luck and good hitting of good pitches. Blanton was terrific, Rincon did his job, and Street was his usual great self.

by OaklandSi on Aug 27, 2005 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, Nico,no
My gawd what is Hatte doing in the lineup?  He bats left handed doesn't he?  How in the hell does Macha play Hatte over Melhuse, for that alone he should be fired.  It is unbelievable.  It wasn't enough that Hatte didn't get a hit the last two months last year,but Macha wants to prove that was no fluke and let him do it this year.  Does that guy ever think?

by china bob on Aug 26, 2005 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blanton
His pitch count was over 100 and the A's are being careful with him with that.

by Larry E on Aug 27, 2005 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crotchby ...
... looked much better at the plate tonight: good mid-point-in-the-box stance, better balance overall, no obvious lunges at the ball, no swings at pitches above his hands.

Good results, yes -- and he's had those sporadically in the second half, but with a poor approach.

Tonight, he looked much more like he was controlling his ABs. Even better than the HR -- and what I think set up the HR in the consequent AB -- was his walk, where he really steeled himself not to swing at Chen's crap. The shot of him at first after the walk was pretty priceless -- his face seemed to show that he *really doesn't like walking, but that he knows it's good for him -- like a 5-year-old making bad-medicine-Mr.-Yuck face.

Did anyone else notice the little toe-tap timing mechanism he's incorporated into his swing? Looks awkward, but it seemed to help keep him back on Chen's slooooooooow stuff.

It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Good point, Monkeyball,
totally agree. On the 3-1 pitch, I was thinking, "Crosby going to swing from his (admittedly hot) ass and try to HR," but in fact he put a good controlled swing on...and HRed. Big difference.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think ...
... what may have had him grumpy in the AB where he walked was getting the explicit take sign on 3-0 (and, yes, the "explicit" take sign would be "Take, or I'll &*%$ing kill you, Crosby!"). I think he was like, "I've got my timing down on this guy -- give me a shot to swing hard next AB."
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bobby was much more comfortable tonight!
It was pretty obvious. He did wonderfully tonight and I am very proud of him. I do disagree with you on one thing though...

"Did anyone else notice the little toe-tap timing mechanism he's incorporated into his swing? Looks awkward, but it seemed to help keep him back on Chen's slooooooooow stuff."

Now I am no expert, but I do watch my boy rather closely and he has been doing that all season. Not only have I seen it, but Fosse has talked about it on a number of ocassions. So it is not a new thing that he just added for tonight.

And that face he made was totally cute! But that is just my opinion!

"We play our best ball when we're goofing around and having a good time" ~Bobby Crosby

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Aug 26, 2005 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crotchby?
Hopefully he can be "Clutchby" from now on.

by OaktownTribesman on Aug 26, 2005 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason i have the sudden urge
to purchase supplemental insurance.
Mark Ellis for Comeback Player of the Year!!!----He Actually had to come back!! Everyone else just sucked for a year.

by robber23 on Aug 26, 2005 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

AFLAC!
"We play our best ball when we're goofing around and having a good time" ~Bobby Crosby

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Aug 26, 2005 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's FRIDAY NIGHT!
Meaning:

That stupid alarm clock won't go off at the un-godly hour of 6:40 AM.

For ONE night, I don't have to run to Oklahoma rehearsals.

I don't have to worry about homework until tomorrow. THEN I have something for Honors English (a lot), WAY too much for Calculus, some for Biology, some for Honors World Cultures...jeez.

It's Friday! I don't have to go to bed really early! Open threads and pics all night, baby. ;)

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1438381

by Squeaky on Aug 26, 2005 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Ditto that
... except that, in my case, Saturday is the one day of the week I enjoy getting up early: to go to the SF Farmers Market at the Ferry Building.
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

cirquegirl
what production of Oklahoma are you involved in?

by Hustons Girl on Aug 27, 2005 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kotsay
It's nice to see our present and future CF starting to heat up again.  Four 2-hit games in a row, and he's making good contact to right field again.  

After 3 straight months under .260, Kotsay's got himself a .312 avg in April.  He's also driving the ball more, with a slugging percentage up over .480 on the month.  Would be nice to see a few more walks though.  And that fleet of foot cruise control we're used to seeing.

Could the Mark Cuban curse finally be over?

"I'm so green and gold that I hang on every pitch, not just every game." - Lew Wolff

by BleacherDrummer on Aug 26, 2005 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Whoever
gives high-interest loans in foolshgame22's neighborhood is drooling right now.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did foolshgame
bet his house that Byrnes would hit four grand slams?
Let us not continue to debate how many Angels can be dashed on the head of a pin. Let's just get to it while the gettin' is good.

by Checkswing HR on Aug 26, 2005 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

"After 3 straight months under .260...
Kotsay's got himself a .312 avg in April."

April? Where!! That means we have to go through May again...

Auntie Em: Hate Kansas, hate you, taking the dog, Dorothy.

by Chavinator on Aug 26, 2005 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha
oops, August.  Better the A's be error free than I.
"I'm so green and gold that I hang on every pitch, not just every game." - Lew Wolff

by BleacherDrummer on Aug 26, 2005 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Warning: subtle-but-inappropriate cheap shot
I'm really starting to wonder what kind of person could be a supporter of Sidney Ponson: you've got drunk driving, various "youthful indiscretions," attacks on the judiciary ...
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe people who
think they like "Arubian Knights" because they got the title of the movie slightly wrong?
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or poor hyphenators ...
... who have fond memories of the Mother Goose story that begins "Aruba-dub-dub ..."
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun fact for the RoY race
Tonight, Joe Blanton dropped his ERA to just under Gustavo Chacin's: 3.61 vs 3.62, making him now the top rookie starter in the AL based on ERA.

Please, can we split that award among all four of our rookies?

With Eric Chavez batting, Jason Kendall scores on defensive indifference.

by matthias on Aug 26, 2005 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

ERA
Joe is really taking a bite out of his ERA.

by Larry E on Aug 27, 2005 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still can't believe
the offense and the bullpen managed to secure the win for poor Joe, probably the best pitcher with a losing record in the majors. Talk about snakebit.

Whoosh! Down plummets Cupcake's ERA. Remember that 1/3rd of an inning vs. Tampa Bay?

Who should start Game 3 in a short playoff series: Joe or Danny? We are spoiled with good pitching, I tell you.

Let us not continue to debate how many Angels can be dashed on the head of a pin. Let's just get to it while the gettin' is good.

by Checkswing HR on Aug 26, 2005 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Isn't it remarkable
that in April, June, July, and August combined, Blanton's ERA of 2.31 would be best in the entire league?
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad
the people in charge dont look at it that way.  Maybe we could start a petition to get all game W-L records and stats removed for the month of may

by Dave V on Aug 26, 2005 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

K's
He isn't doing it with smoke and mirrors anymore either.  The rising K rate is a very good sign.  I think that Blanton is fast becoming an AN favorite.  The poster "lowcountryjoe" has by far the best screen name.

by DKNJ on Aug 26, 2005 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need to get a Mrs Cupcakes ...
... and send Joe home for a week in August next year ...
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, I thought
HE was pregnant. He's NOT?
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

There IS a Ms. Cupcakes...
and they have a kid at home...SWISH!
misfit toy...formally "A fanatic"...

by OaklandInvader on Aug 26, 2005 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pulled a Griswold!
Wait -- are you saying SWISH is Blanton's son?!?
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Swish lives in the same house
as Mr. and Mrs. Cupcakes. They view Swish like he's their son.
Let us not continue to debate how many Angels can be dashed on the head of a pin. Let's just get to it while the gettin' is good.

by Checkswing HR on Aug 26, 2005 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The rare DOUBLE-Griswold!
Monkeyball is en fuego tonight!
It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody should flay me
for having doubts about Joe three months ago.

Or maybe I could do like our friend oaktoon, and call out everybody else for doubting Joe. Yeah, that's the ticket!

Hey AN, how dare you doubt Joe!

(j/k, oaktoon)

Let us not continue to debate how many Angels can be dashed on the head of a pin. Let's just get to it while the gettin' is good.

by Checkswing HR on Aug 26, 2005 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had my doubts too
I just didn't think his stuff was all that great.

Very happy to be proven wrong

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed...
I remember a last minute rumor, Dunn straight up for Haren OR Blanton, thank goodness BB knew what he had, I would have done a Dunn (that's an alliteration :-p) for Blanton deal... starting pitching always trumps bats, IMHO
misfit toy...formally "A fanatic"...

by OaklandInvader on Aug 26, 2005 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here--
I would never have thought JB would pitch this well this year, thought his stuff needed much refining. I do think he's throwing much sharper breaking stuff now, so maybe he refined quicker than I thought he would/could. Whatever it is, I was more wrong about Blanton than I was about anyone--sometimes it's really nice to be wrong!
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frankly
his stuff looks better than at the beginning of the season.

Maybe the "extra conditioning" Macha wanted him to do has paid off.

by OaklandSi on Aug 27, 2005 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The win obscures the unfortunate fact
that we only scored 3 earned runs tonight. We've got to hit better than that!
Let us not continue to debate how many Angels can be dashed on the head of a pin. Let's just get to it while the gettin' is good.

by Checkswing HR on Aug 26, 2005 8:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Anyone else nervous that...
we have to play Monday & the Halos have the day off, before our "big" series?
misfit toy...formally "A fanatic"...

by OaklandInvader on Aug 26, 2005 9:01 PM PDT reply actions  

nope
it gives the A's a chance to pick up a half-game, free of charge

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point didn't think of it that way...
plus if we win, it gives us momentum to roll into the series with
misfit toy...formally "A fanatic"...

by OaklandInvader on Aug 26, 2005 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

mismatch-up of the night
Huston Street v Eric Byrnes

That 3 pitch strike out made Bynes look ... well, "bumbling" springs to mind.

by green star oakland on Aug 26, 2005 9:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Props to Byrnesie, though ...
... for that bunt single.

Why he never learned to do that when he was here, however ...

It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Warning
you can't use "Byrnes" and "learned" in the same post.

by green star oakland on Aug 26, 2005 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blanton Is Really A Bulldog
I've said this before, but when Blanton gets runners on, he is at his toughest as he really bears down and gets out of jams. Tonight, he was often behind batters as his command was a shade off, but he battled and battled. The result: again, no runs. This guy has a terrific future (and his present ain't too bad, either).

There has been some questioning of why, for a second straight game, he was taken out after six innings. Macha has said that Blanton is not used to a full MLB season of starting and that he believes limiting his pitches is a good prescription for Blanton continuing to do well down the September stretch. With the A's excellent bullpen, this seems like good logic to me...

by reztips on Aug 26, 2005 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

It's true--
Macha is sometimes criticized for not being proactive (usually in regards to not having someone ready in the bullpen), but his conservative use of Blanton is very proactive and will, hopefully, pay big dividends in September. And as far as last start is concerned, it's a bullpen's job to hold the fort for a couple innings and Witasick simply didn't get it done.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with Macha on this
god knows, there are a hundred other things I don't agree with him about, Hatte, Kendall batting first, Crosby at 3, hell, that is why AN is so much fun.

by china bob on Aug 26, 2005 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing I wonder...
they always talk about "innings pitched" for a season...(i.e., 180, 200, etc.) wouldn't you think it would be pitches (i.e., 1800, 2000, etc.) as the best way to look at it?
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by OaklandInvader on Aug 26, 2005 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but it's
not an exact science, because snapping off a slider and throwing a 3-0 fastball don't put equal strain on the arm, nor do the 110th pitch with the bases loaded vs. the 8th pitch with the bases empty, etc. So all the numbers are just approximate benchmarks, really.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Starters vs relievers
I would think that for starters, with a relatively large sample size (yeah, and we know Joe's sample size is large), the pitches per AB would average out and innings would be satisfactory.

But for relievers, pitches would probably be more apropos -- especially for someone like, say, Chadford, who would often "throw two-thirds of an inning" while only throwing 1-2 pitches (inning-ending GIDP).

It's tough out there, Pootie. You got drugs ... crime ... gorillas ...

by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2005 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flores
I really hope the A's give him some opportunities. It would be nice to find a decent situational lefty that will be cheap for a few years. I'm not sure his stuff is that good, but its worth a shot.

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Flores' changeup
actually impressed me when he was up, as did his willingness to attack the strike zone (in contrast to our beleaguered Rincon). His relative disuse while up was, IMO, a classic example that the players, in fact, DON'T make out the lineup card. * cough, Melhuse, cough* Flores deserved more of a look in his first stint, and I hope he gets more of a shot next time around.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

absoutely agree with you on this
There were many games where I thought he could have been used without any negative problems but for whatever reason Macha chose not to. I was very impressed with the same things you were.

by china bob on Aug 26, 2005 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing that worries me...
Flores has no hard consonants in his name, coincidence? Who knows?
misfit toy...formally "A fanatic"...

by OaklandInvader on Aug 26, 2005 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a really good point--
The A's should probably release him.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 26, 2005 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

O and E are both...
Vowels - jeez go back to Kindergarten to learn english  :)
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by smith1051 on Aug 27, 2005 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Killer Instinct
I just never get the feeling that the A's are going for the jugular. Especially with teams like the Orioles, you have to get up on them and put them away. You can't get a couple runs and try and run out the clock. This game could have easily been won by the Orioles with Kalero inserting quarters for the Orioles hitting machine in the seventh inning. Of course I'm happy about the win, but I still think the A's have a ways to go before getting to that next level.

by nathan. on Aug 26, 2005 9:39 PM PDT reply actions  

disagree
Look at Calero's inning

walk: ok, bad
squib hit: if DJ not holding the runner, its an easy DP
ground ball base hit: would have been a Dp if Chav had been playing back
K

I thought the A's did a good job of being aggressive. Chavvy stole a base, Kotsay with a bunt single. The ORioles wasted opportunities, but the A's made good pitches and played quality defense. I didn't think they were passive at all

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Calero didn't even walk anyone
Byrnes let off with a bunt single. Then there was that "squib hit" through first and second that Byrnes went to third on. Roberts' RBI hit was another well placed grounder off the end of his bat that unfortunately eluded Chavez by about four inches. I agree - Calero was just the victim of a few unlucky [or lucky?] hits, it's not like he was that off tonight.
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by Melody on Aug 26, 2005 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

calero showed them how to play defense
on the sac attempt.  No one has mentioned what a key play that was (even though they promptly stole third on him).  Getting the lead out on that sacrifice really let the air out of their balloon.

by Brian in 317 on Aug 27, 2005 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Few Thoiught From the Game
(It takes a while to get back to D.C. from Baltimore)
  • Swisher took BP left handed ... even though there was a left handed starter. He and Kielty may platoon.
  • Swisher spent a good portion of BP taking grounders at first, working on the 3-6-3
  • Blanton threw long toss in the outfield with Swisher, not a catcher or Buckley
  • Curt Young seems to have a good relationship with Blanton, as he was near him all pre-game and was with him in the bullpen before the first pitch. I'm sure the pitching coach is usually involved with the day's starter, but after more than 25 years of fandom, this was the first time I noticed it.
  • This is Chavez' team. The great catch in foul territory. The play on Matos' bunt. The steal. If he comes through, we make the playoffs. If not ...
  • Blanton is gonna be good. He kept the O's hitters guessing all night and throws harder than you'd think. (I was sitting about 12 rows behind home plate.) He seems to be one of those pitchers that will get better and better with experience because he can put the ball where he wants to.
  • Kiko got unlucky on the bunt single and a seeing-eye grounder. But he was lucky that Rico and Street cam through big time.
  • Crosby is about to break out. His homer was clutch, but he hot the ball with more authority than anyone else during BP.
I can't go again until Monday, but I am so excited about this team. Playoffs or not, the 2005 Athletics have exceeded my expectations!

by Eck on Aug 26, 2005 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

bus?
no..not jerome bettis. But did you take the bus back to union tonight?

by nathan. on Aug 26, 2005 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you ever
look at old blanton baseball cards, ie his bowman draft pick cards.  they talk about how he has really good control with his fastball. now it looks as if his curve is geeting command.  he is awesome.  blanton is da bomb
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by burnone on Aug 27, 2005 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Saw this on the MLB Angels board:
"Forget about Run Differential, Average, OBP and other fancy stats to measure the offense.

The bottom line in baseball is how many runs you score vs. how many you give up. "

Bold is mine.  I swear I did not make this up.

Quick Practice SAT question, for all the high school kids of AN.

________________

Run Differential : "how many runs you score vs. how many you give up"

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a) Apples : Apples
b) Apples : Oranges
c) Apples : Orangutans
d) Apples : Chimichangas
e) Apples : Hoobastank

_________________

That's not the worst part.  The worst part is that the entire thread continued without anyone bothering to point it out.  A few of them even said, "Yeah!  You're right!"

by Inquisitor on Aug 26, 2005 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

well
just more proof that Angels fans aren't very bright:)

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Aug 26, 2005 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll Admit it
It took me a second read before I got it. But I do have the blond thing going for me, so that can be my moment for the day!
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by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Aug 26, 2005 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I vent for a moment...?
I'm watching the Mariners/White Sox game. It's in the top of the 12th inning. The leadoff hitter for the Sox gets on, right? Up comes their new rookie (Brian Andersen) who has done nothing this game, except, oh, I don't know, hit two homeruns and a double, accounting for all the White Sox runs tonight and, yep, you guessed it, he's bunting the runner to second.

Why, you may ask? I HAVE NO EARTHLY IDEA. Why would you waste an out on the ONLY GUY ON YOUR TEAM WHO IS HITTING TONIGHT? Seriously, what went through the coaches' minds there? "Um...what would Joe Morgan do? Let's see. Runner on first. You always bunt. Okay! Let's bunt!"

<rolls eyes>

The White Sox get lucky when they win. Seriously, they're going to win this game and everyone is going to talk about how the team doing all the "fundamental things" right. When, in fact, it could just be that Seattle has run out of pitchers, good or otherwise.  

Best Coliseum promotion of the year? 2005 Oakland A's baseball.

by baseballgirl on Aug 26, 2005 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey BBG...
anyways, if it was the bottom of the inning, I'd understand, but, to me, it's an irrelavent game, don't let it bother you too much...

It just means we'll face dumbass managers in the playoffs...

misfit toy...formally "A fanatic"...

by OaklandInvader on Aug 26, 2005 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, I'm not that upset...
...it is still just amazing how many managers just don't get it. ;)

And, hi!

Best Coliseum promotion of the year? 2005 Oakland A's baseball.

by baseballgirl on Aug 26, 2005 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So proud of Joe Blanton
Who is in the top 15 in AL-ERA oppenets OBP and Quality starts.

I really could not have imagined how great he had been this year.

Obviously really concerned with the K and BB rates but they do seem to be improving.

Why don't they just lick their fingers?

by novaoakland on Aug 26, 2005 11:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Joe Blanton, the next big thing
And that is speaking in both his size and his potential to become a solid #3 or #4 guy in a rotation, props  to the 'meat' of the order for driving in all 4 runs. Rincon actually did something tonight don't forget that either.
You may have the greatest bunch of individual stars in the world, but if they don't play together, the club wont be worth a dime.-Babe Ruth

by doublehustle22 on Aug 26, 2005 11:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Blanton
I've changed my signature, and your post was the inspiration
Joe Blanton is phat

by gojohn10 on Aug 27, 2005 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blanton is now my favorite player on
the A's, but I have odd tastes in players, before this year it was Erubial "Chewbacca" Durazo.

run, run as fast you can, no one can catch the Cupcake man!

"Remember the time you stole my bat? And you lied and said I never had a bat. Then why did I have the donut Jason? Why did I have the donut?"-Adam Milhouse

by pbruins92 on Aug 27, 2005 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

silver linings
Yeah, I know we didn't lose. Our sun can have silver linings too.
  1. Blanton had jaw-dropping strikeouts. The big knock on him early was that he wasn't King anyone. Don't know quite how he got so deceptive, but I hope that mojo stays charged. I do think he benefited from the ump's generously low strike zone.
  2. That was a really impressive save from Street. Just brought the boom down on Miggy.
  3. I loved the baserunning. Wash made a great decision to send runners home twice, once disrespecting Byrnes's arm, second trusting Chavy's speed.  On the other hand, that O's steal of third was potentially very big.
  4. The A's know more than I do. But I was confused and dazed by the decision to pull Blanton at that point.  Calero did suffer from some bad luck, but didn't look that sharp. His K of Miggy (another one?) was a thing of beauty. He and Street both got Migs on sliders out of the zone.
  5. I fully admit I feared Rincon. And my fears were mostly not justified. He had a great finish of Steroid Raffy.  If the O's keep chasing sliders off the plate and looking at fastballs on the corner, we'll have a good shot at taking this series.
  6. TiVo rocks. We didn't see the game until late tonight, because Mrs. Apricot and I had to go to the emergency room because she had an avocado coring go horribly wrong. She will be okay, but I hope you'll all send good vibrations towards her healing hand.

by Apricot on Aug 27, 2005 12:54 AM PDT reply actions  

<good vibes>
"Oakland is home, and you always want to go home. Anytime you get the chance, you're happy to go home." - #24 Rickey Henderson

by burnone on Aug 27, 2005 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

re: #4
miggy loves those sliders away
"Oakland is home, and you always want to go home. Anytime you get the chance, you're happy to go home." - #24 Rickey Henderson

by burnone on Aug 27, 2005 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sending out healing vibes as I type
and I have supernatural powers in all things food related.

My observations on the game:

Rincon did good work tonight. As hard as he is bagged on around here(and I do it too), we need to give him his props when he comes through.

Byrnes really is a spaz. I could live with it when he was our spaz, but to see him repeatedly catch balls flat-footed with runners tagging up is inexcusable for a major leaguer that doesn't justify it by flat out raking at the plate. Most ball players learn that technique in Little League. Even the way he runs the bases looks terrible. He plays baseball like a football player would.

You gotta love our Double Nickel Cupcakes: Not just good, but good for you too!

"HRs by second basemen are sexy. They're rare and exotic." -Kyli

by McFood on Aug 27, 2005 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

is joe blanton
officially "smokin' joe blanton" yet
"Oakland is home, and you always want to go home. Anytime you get the chance, you're happy to go home." - #24 Rickey Henderson

by burnone on Aug 27, 2005 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe AN has spoken...
and "Cupcakes" is it. Besides, there already is a Smokin' Joe, and Cupcakes is just good home cookin'. Props to GNGG for coming up with it.
"HRs by second basemen are sexy. They're rare and exotic." -Kyli

by McFood on Aug 27, 2005 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

right
but, the radio crew does not call him "cupcakes" joe blanton.  altho, it would be really funny if they did.  earlier they were calling him "simmering" joe.  and anyways, all joes are "smokin' joe's".  where is the "cupcakes joe" banner going?

<fell off my chair laughing>

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by burnone on Aug 27, 2005 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's still
"Jelly Bean" Blanton to me.

by Brian in 317 on Aug 27, 2005 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

My stab
I like "Doughnut Joe"

A fun play on edibles and putting up 0's!

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by Force on Aug 27, 2005 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

BULLDOG BLANDTON My Choice for Nickname
Joe doesn't really throw hard enough to be given the moniker, "Smoking Joe." But I think he has earned the nickname I have bestowed upon him, "Bulldog Blanton," because he is at his best bearing down like a bulldog when he gets in trouble...

by reztips on Aug 27, 2005 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is a really funny post
baseball + booze = good times for all!

by LLawbug on Aug 27, 2005 1:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Are we sure that Joe isn't offended
by being called "Cupcakes?" It's kind of like calling him "Fatso," IMO.

And don't assume he doesn't read AN. This is a well-read site. Billy reads AN, so does Mychael ...

Let us not continue to debate how many Angels can be dashed on the head of a pin. Let's just get to it while the gettin' is good.

by Checkswing HR on Aug 27, 2005 5:11 AM PDT reply actions  

I hope he isn't offended.
Nothing wrong with being chubby, and everyone loves cupcakes. No one calls David Wells cupcake, he is just fatass.
"Remember the time you stole my bat? And you lied and said I never had a bat. Then why did I have the donut Jason? Why did I have the donut?"-Adam Milhouse

by pbruins92 on Aug 27, 2005 5:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly...
...I got pretty tired of the fat jokes, including "Cupcakes", two months ago.  It's pretty obvious the guy isn't the perfect physical specimen, but it's also pretty obvious that he's not being a lazy ass and eating whatever is in sight.  Just last month he suffered a slight back injury (that he pitched through) because, guess what, the team had him doing extra running drills because they don't want his weight to become an issue.

Personally, I find it a little rude to be calling a grown man, who has a wife and child, "Cupcakes", especially since it's such an obvious jab at his weight.  I mean, I don't see anyone here who is willing to walk up to him and call him that to his face.

I'm sure someone is going to say that I have a stick up my ass about the issue, and I can see why some would say that it's all just in good fun.  Maybe if I found it just a little bit funny, I'd laugh it off.  But as it is, the whole thing just strikes me as just a tad bit rude, and more than a little reminiscent of playground taunting.

by Inquisitor on Aug 27, 2005 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cupcakes is not a fat joke
Not for everybody. It started as a private nickname that GreenNGoldGirl had for Blanton. It spread probably because it was so memorable that every time cupcakes came up, Blanton came up too. The same way that when Weebles come up, you can't help but think of Daric Barton. Okay, maybe that's just me.

Anyway, not to speak for others, I started using it because I thought it was cute and it's nice to have some AN-specific nicknames. Also "Cupcake up!" seemed like the perfect taking-the-piss out of "Cowboy Up" which represented the team in recent history I have loathed the most.

by Apricot on Aug 27, 2005 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I call Durazo
Chewbacca and I doubt anyone else does. It not making fun of him, its just that he is big and powerful, like Chewbacca. Cupcakes is just catchy and its better than calling him Blanty like Hatty, Chavvy, Miggy and Huddy.
"Remember the time you stole my bat? And you lied and said I never had a bat. Then why did I have the donut Jason? Why did I have the donut?"-Adam Milhouse

by pbruins92 on Aug 27, 2005 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

that does not make sense
If Durazo is a wookie, he comes from Endor. Yet Ewoks come from Endor. Why would a 6' 3", 240 lb slugger want to live on Endor with a bunch of Ewoks? THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. So when you are deliberating, remember, none of this makes sense! If Durazo is a wookie, Scioscia is a genius.  Thank you.

by Apricot on Aug 27, 2005 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chewbacca Defense!
Since I've been a member of AN, chewbacca defense has been referenced at least a dozen times.
"Remember the time you stole my bat? And you lied and said I never had a bat. Then why did I have the donut Jason? Why did I have the donut?"-Adam Milhouse

by pbruins92 on Aug 27, 2005 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wookies not from Endor...
A planet called "Kashyyk" first visited in "Sith"
Athletic: Mighty slayer of Slegna

by Force on Aug 27, 2005 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tried the "Cupcake up" post...
...during the game and I just felt weird about it. Everytime I think about "Cupcake" as a nickname I think of the '80s show "Newhart," where that yuppie guy (I forget the character's name, but he was played by Peter Scolari) would call Stephanie "Cupcake." Those two characters could've been poured on my Eggos they were so syrupy. Anyway, I just can't call a Major League Baseball player "Cupcakes," no matter how big he is or how much of a man-crush I have on the guy -- and I don't have one on Blanton (or any other player, for that matter).

So I'll respectfully decline from using "Cupcakes" for Mr. Blanton from now on. :P

Now as a fellow Southern boy, I'll gladly say "Kentucky Joe." :)

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 27, 2005 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cupcakes
I'm sure the nickname itself isn't meant as a derogatory term, and I'm familiar with its origins.  But, there was a good period of time where people would have entire threads dedicated to making fat jokes about Blanton - stuff like "OMG HE ATE YABU!" and "Huston probably needs another snack bag just for Blanton", or even just little snide remarks like, "If something needs to be eaten, Blanton's the guy to call."  After a while, it got really old, really fast.

by Inquisitor on Aug 27, 2005 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think his 'child' is Swish, but... :D
Have to admit that I call Blanton 'Cupcakes,' but only because of GNGG's in-joke. I've never meant it in a mocking or derogatory way - as I mentioned earlier in the game threads, I have quite the affection for our Kentucky Joe Blanton. And I agree with the point made somewhere about Cupcake Up being the antidote to Cowboy Up. I hate the Red Sox a bit more than the Angels and a lot more than the Yanks.
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by Chavinator on Aug 27, 2005 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since when is Blanton fat?
Has anyone even looked at his lower body?  This is a powerful man, not some lardass.  I believe the prevalent wisdowm is that power comes from the lower body, be it hitting, throwing, or pitching.  There's most certainly some kinesiologist out there who could make a much more compelling argument than I.  Ever notice Koufax's lower body?  I was always amazed at how someone so apparently slight could get so much mustard on the ball until someone suggested I look at his lower body.  Blanton's size should be a non-issue.  Not to get all social commentary or anything, but our obsession w/ appearance is . . . OK, never mind.

by camperdog on Aug 27, 2005 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know the nickname is meant affectionately.
Like I indicated before, I don't have a problem with the name "Cupcakes" if Joe doesn't have a problem with it. But since we don't know, we should probably come up with something else.
Let us not continue to debate how many Angels can be dashed on the head of a pin. Let's just get to it while the gettin' is good.

by Checkswing HR on Aug 27, 2005 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

We should defer
to GNGG for the intent behind Cupcake.
"Remember the time you stole my bat? And you lied and said I never had a bat. Then why did I have the donut Jason? Why did I have the donut?"-Adam Milhouse

by pbruins92 on Aug 27, 2005 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have nothing but love for Joe B.
I like Joe + I like cupcakes = Calling Joe "Cupcakes" is a term of endearment.

If I knew that he didn't like it I would stop.

Joe, shoot me an email if you don't like it. My email's in my profile.

"HRs by second basemen are sexy. They're rare and exotic." -Kyli

by McFood on Aug 27, 2005 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kotsay's bunt/Kendall's receiving
A good drag bunter gives up on the high pitch, even if he gets called for a strike. Kotsay's bunt was really ugly, so I'm not ready to admit that was "good baseball".  But it certainly was good luck that it fell where it did.

Since the game was on "action 36" I actually got to watch it (my old, mostly broken TV only gets TV20, useless channel 14, and action 36) and Fosse went on and on about Kendall's handling of the staff (he scoffed about people judging his performance based on throwing basestealers out rather than blocking pitches and handling the young staff).  Foss also pointed out that Kendall had seven (either seven or five) blocks of balls in the dirt last night.  This is not a new point, but it seems someone has to periodically remind us here about these intangible points in Kendall's favor, since any time he goes hitless two games in a row the logic-challenged come out of the woodwork to say how lousy he is.  

by Brian in 317 on Aug 27, 2005 7:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Hang on there, Brian,
we're not bandwagon-raggers on Kendall. In fact, we're not even ragging on Kendall when we say "great game caller, great influence, decent OBP...BAT HIM IN THE BOTTOM THIRD OF THE ORDER!" Kendall is what he is, and it's good for the team in many ways. But many of us don't feel he belongs in the top of the order, which is more a criticism of management than of Kendall.

What's "logic-challenged," IMO, is to say that the players make out the lineup card, and then to insist on batting Kendall leadoff when the only thing he does better than Ellis is get on base...and actually Ellis has does that better too.

Nico

by Nico on Aug 27, 2005 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed
I appreciate what Kendall does well, and would like to see his limitations at the plate taken into consideration when making out the lineup.

Also -- even if he is a b***h on the bench -- it appears to do him good offensively to rest him more.

Brian, let me know which September games you think you'll be going to, and I'll look for you.

by OaklandSi on Aug 27, 2005 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

my tix are for
9/2 (sec 316), 9/6, 9/19, 9/20, 9/26, 9/27, 9/28  though I'm probably not going to make all of these. Plus, I've got to get a ticket to one of the Texas games to keep up with my goal of seeing at least one game of every home series this year.  I'll be on the lookout for you!

by Brian in 317 on Aug 27, 2005 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

if he is batting leadoff
in the playoffs and does real good.  will people finally get over it.  i believe ellly should bat 1st.  but, if not him kendall IS the next best.  and given the track record of kendall, let him be in there.  noone was complaining when we won 40 of 50 with him there.  
"Oakland is home, and you always want to go home. Anytime you get the chance, you're happy to go home." - #24 Rickey Henderson

by burnone on Aug 27, 2005 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually,
that's not quite true. My comment when Kendall was hot was that I had been waiting through his slump, but that I was unimpressed with his hits even when he was hitting, so I had come to the conclusion that he was not a great top of the order hitter.

See? Some of us have the great integrity to rag on our own players even when they are performing well.

Nico

by Nico on Aug 27, 2005 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

alright so I'm "adjective-challenged"
I'm not disagreeing that batting Kendall down in the lineup makes sense; I was referring to the detractors suggesting more drastic measures.

by Brian in 317 on Aug 27, 2005 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another Terrible Chron Columnist
Bruce Jenkins is nearly as awful as Ray Ratto when it comes to local sports columnists. He rarely mentions the A's in his weekly "3-Dot Lounge" column (and when he does, it's usually inanely critical) which is theoretically supposed to focus in great measure upon local teams.

And, of course, for several months Jenkins has been suggesting how great it would be for Barry Bonds to become the Angels' DH. Now that would really help the A's, won't it?

Jenkins has never gotten over his experience years ago as the A's beat writer for the Chron. He criticized the team over an incident where Dave Kingman presented a female beat writer he didn't like with a rat. In response, the team stopped talking to Bruce. And Jenkins has either ignored the A's or had nasty things to say about them ever since.

Moreover, as an LA native, Jenkins is constantly writing about LA teams, be they the Dodgers, the Angels, or the Lakers. I say, ship that bum back to some ridiculous Southland rag and have him take his fat-headed twin, Ratto, with him.

What a mistake it was for the Chron to ditch the excellent Glenn Dickey and Tom Fitzgerald while keeping twin turkeys Ratto and Jenkins...

by reztips on Aug 27, 2005 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think BJ is that great,
But the above criticisms are way off-base.  To say that when he focuses on the A's he's inanely critical is just not true.  When many were skeptical about the A's at the outset of this season, Bruce said they were a team you had to love, full of youth and exitement.  It's true, he doesn't focus on the A's much, but in my experience, his observations of the A's when he does make them are pretty solid.
"Every time he opens his mouth he makes a fool of himself," La Russa said. "He's a village idiot."

by rubin sierra on Aug 27, 2005 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh-oh
I think I just created an opening for much inappropriate humor by referring to Bruce Jenkins using his initials.  I guess this is one case where I can be thankful that not many will read my post.
"Every time he opens his mouth he makes a fool of himself," La Russa said. "He's a village idiot."

by rubin sierra on Aug 27, 2005 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your use of his initials has been noted
and will be brought up in Kangaroo Court at the end of the season.
"HRs by second basemen are sexy. They're rare and exotic." -Kyli

by McFood on Aug 27, 2005 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question on base-coaching
When Byrnes went from 1st to 3rd on Matos' squib he came in to third upright but way off balance, and almost fell over/off the bag a couple of times, and the O's 3rd base coach reached out and held him up ... why isn't that some kind of interference ?

by green star oakland on Aug 27, 2005 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

You know,
I meant to mention that--good call. Yes, Dempsey was guilty of interference, even if unintentionally. My guess is that either no one on the A's noticed, or they let it go because no one was trying to make a play on Byrnes so it would have looked petty to argue. I think you're absolutely right, though; it was interference and Byrnes should have been called out.
Nico

by Nico on Aug 27, 2005 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

incidentally
earlier that inning, with Byrnes on first, I was really hoping to see the hidden ball trick ... he seems like the perfect candidate for it :-)

by green star oakland on Aug 27, 2005 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assume
that is sarcasm? Can someone give a scouting report on this trade? My vague impression is that he's an aging lead-off type whom the Cubs were salary dumping. But since the Yankee outfield is so decrepit, he'll probably start.

by Apricot on Aug 27, 2005 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, I like it...I think he can play and really add
I think it is a great move that will give them depth in the OF.  I think for pretty much giving up nothing, it is a nice late August move...
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 27, 2005 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree
The Yankee lineup looks much better with Cano down in the 9 hole and Womack/Tino hitting the pine.  With Cleveland's easy schedule and the yanks pitching getting healthy the A's best chance for the playoffs will be taking out the Angels.

by DKNJ on Aug 27, 2005 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

re: Chavvy as basestealer
I recall that even last year Chavvy was one of only two A's who had a green light all the time, depending on their own decision about when to steal. I don't remember who was the other one last year, though somehow Kotsay sticks in my mind.

by OaklandSi on Aug 27, 2005 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Hide the chocolate cake!
If Bartolo Colon and Smokin Joe pitch the same day :)

by Snuffaluffagus on Aug 27, 2005 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

hey enough
with the fat jokes. It's going a little too far to call Bartolo "Colon".  

by Apricot on Aug 27, 2005 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

KC up 4-3 on the Yanks now...
Back to back 2 rbi hits with 2 outs.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 27, 2005 11:54 AM PDT reply actions  

T LONG thump thump T LONG thump thump
C'mon your pointy headed Royals!  You owe us for gift wrapping that streak busting series!

by Apricot on Aug 27, 2005 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

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