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Smoak is gone

In Baseball America's Daily Dish:

"School's back, at least in some parts of the country. Once 2005 draft picks attend their first college class, teams can no longer negotiate with them. South Carolina's recruiting class improved as Justin Smoak and Reese Havens both began their freshman year this morning. Smoak, a switch-hitting first baseman from Goose Creek, S.C., slipped out of the first three rounds but still turned down a signing bonus approaching $1 million from the Athletics, who picked him in round 16. Havens, a shortstop/third baseman from Charleston drafted by the Rockies in the 29th round, passed on a bonus in or more than $1 million."

Well, it was worth a 16th round pick, it's just a shame that they couldn't close the deal, especially when it seemed like they weren't very far apart on money.  Do people think Billy was serious about wanting him as a player, or do you think he was looking at him as a trading chip in the near future and didn't want to pay him too much?  I think the A's draft class is still strong even without Smoak, but this drops it from Great to Solid until we find out who among the HS fireballers is for real (lansford sure looks good so far, not really a fireballer, but you get the idea).  Thoughts on the draft?  Should the A's have coughed up another $100k for Mr. Smoak?

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problem is..
He was a second round talent until these signability issues which we see right here.

I honestly don't know that he wouldn't have gone to USC even if we'd offer him a million.

Words are cheap.

But damn. This guy was and still is, and probably will be good.

let's go oakland [clapclap clapclapclap]

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by Jjjsixsix on Aug 18, 2005 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

We won't know for three years.
I've heard he's 1st round good, 2nd round good, 3rd round good and 7th round good. All I know is nobody else thought it worth a gamble until we did in round 16.

To me, that means either he's just not as good as his press kit says he is, or his agent is a tool who nobody wanted to deal with.

My guess? Both.

by Ozzz on Aug 19, 2005 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm...
I think I'll buy a donut.

Mmm... sprinkles.

by Ozzz on Aug 19, 2005 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA!!!
Nice one.

So, what's the deal? He actually wanted 4 mil? A milayear for four years?

Adversity will be there everyday, but you quit the day you don't get up. - D Braden

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 19, 2005 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

He did?
Haven't heard the specifics, but I'm sure it will leak out soon enough. From the quotes I've seen, the kid, his dad and his 'advisor' had a plan from the outset to say just enough to get interest, but only as a means of building his rep for the big stuff down the line.

Ah, greed. Gotta love a kid's desire to play, huh?

by Ozzz on Aug 19, 2005 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good,
Smoak needs to go to college and learn the value of a dollar. If the kid (and his parents and "advisor")are willing to risk a possible MLB ball career for$100,000 that's fine. good luck, and remember-don't swing at the first pitch.
We're not dunderheads here...

by bigelephant on Aug 19, 2005 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

HE publicly said pre draft.
"DO not draft me I am going to college".

Cna not hate on the Kid who then said well if you blow me away with a deal I will think about it.

The A's did not.

by novaoakland on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

agreed,
but it came out as "don't draft me i'm going to coleege, BUT if you give me 1st round money after being drafted in the 16th, i'ii consider not attending". i'm sick of greedy 19 yr olds, manipulative parents and immoral agents trying to con the system.  
We're not dunderheads here...

by bigelephant on Aug 19, 2005 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally.
He's been quoted many times as saying he'd skip college if the money was there, which is obviously an invitation for someone to take a shot.

And if the gap between what he wanted and what he was offered was realy as small as has been described, then the kid is a douchebag, beaten only in douchebaggery by his agent... oh, sorry, 'unofficial adviser'. (eye roll)

by Ozzz on Aug 19, 2005 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

We did nab Justin Sellers though this year:
That kid is really good!!!
Adversity will be there everyday, but you quit the day you don't get up. - D Braden

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 19, 2005 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

IS Massaro done for sure???
I saw that one NJ post article saying things were not going well but really appeared to be posturing.

As I understand that kid is "Bonderman dumb"

by novaoakland on Aug 19, 2005 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

LMAO -"bonderman dumb"
as i flip through my DSM IVR interestingly i fail to find that DX.
We're not dunderheads here...

by bigelephant on Aug 19, 2005 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

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