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Explaining Waivers

I've seen a bunch of questions about waivers, and although I definitely do not think of myself as an expert, I did read an article about them by Steve Phillips over on ESPN.com

Usually, I think the guy is an idiot (heck, look at what he did to the Mets), but this was actually a pretty informative article

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http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=phillips_steve&id=2130379

Alas, it is insider only, but here are the relevant bits:

Players can change teams one of three ways on waivers:

  1. A player is claimed on waivers and the team awarded the claim makes a trade with the other club.
  2. A player is claimed on waivers and the player's team just decides to dump the claimed player on the claiming team.
  3. A player clears waivers, meaning that no team claimed him during the 47-hour period, and is later traded to an interested party.
The interesting thing is that most teams try to get all of their players through waivers -- not because they want to trade them, but instead to protect themselves just in case they get an incredible offer for a player.

Once a player goes on waivers any team can put in a claim, but the claims are awarded in order of

  1. League -- American League teams have dibs on AL players before the National League gets 'em and visa-versa
  2. Record -- When comparing two claims within the same league, the team with the worst record gets dibs.
Usually, when a player is claimed, the owning team pulls him back - they didn't really want to trade the guy and were trying to sneak him through. However, if nobody claims the player within the 47 hour waiver period, the player has "cleared waivers" and can be traded to anyone.

Gammons had an article about the guys who have cleared waivers. Among the hitters that cleared were: Piazza, Griffey, Sweeney, Frank Catalanotto, Dustan Mohr, Todd Hollandsworth, Todd Walker and Edgardo Alfonzo.  Sadly, one of our favorites, Adam Dunn did not clear - so we realistically have no shot at him. For those of you with insider, here's the Gammons article:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=2135848

One other interesting thing to note - if a team wants to trade anyone on the 40 man roster, that player must clear waivers. So, for some of our AAA guys to be included in a waiver trade, they too would have to clear waivers. (Not bloody likely in the case of someone like Juan Cruz).

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If a player is claimed on waivers, and the two teams try to work out a trade but it doesn't work out, what happens then?  The player goes back on waivers and continues all the way until he clears?  Or do they have to dump the player on the claiming team?

Cuz if its the former then thats sorta stupid cuz any team can just refuse to trade him for anyone once he is claimed and have him clear waivers eventually.

And if its the latter, then its sorta risky, any team can just pick up a free player and refuse to trade anyone good for him.

"It is like Menudo, where guys reach a certain age and are kicked out of the band. And they go on to be Ricky Martins somewhere else." -Billy Beane

by WhiteElephantGuy on Aug 18, 2005 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

according to phillips:
"If a player is claimed on waivers, the team which claims the player has 48½ hours ... to make a deal with the player's club or he is automatically pulled back off of waivers."

He also says that once a player has been pulled back off of waivers, he cannot be put back on for another 30 days.

by RickeySteals on Aug 18, 2005 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the latter
any team can put in a claim for a free player and refuse to trade anyone good for him.

It happens all the time.

Of course, if the original team really wanted to rid themselves of a contract, they could just allow the claiming team to have him for nothing and they'd be stuck with the entire contract.

The guys who get through waivers are either:
a. not really worth bothering with
b. players who there is no way in hell will actually get traded (good player with a good contract)
c. players of varying skill levels with bad contracts.

The next time I slap a guy's ass, can we all just assume it's because I wish I was a baseball player?

by devo on Aug 18, 2005 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was a great read.
I've always wondered how players could get traded after the trade deadline.

by sf drift king on Aug 18, 2005 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

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