Joe Morgan (cough, cough) loves the A's!!!
That's right, I couldn't believe it either. But he hypes the A's as possibly the best team in baseball now that St. Louis has been beset by injury. Granted he still gives no credit to our boy Billy, but hey, it's a start.
Here's the relevant portion of the article that deals with his analysis on the A's:
In case you hadn't noticed, the Oakland Athletics have the best record in baseball since the All-Star break (11-3).
Going further back, the A's are 38-14 (a winning percentage of .731) since they lost eight straight toward the end of May. Earlier in May, the team had suffered another eight-game losing streak. Oakland went 7-20 in May, including a 4-20 stretch lodged between a May 1 victory and wins on May 30 and 31.
At that time, everyone was saying the A's were done -- except one guy who e-mailed during my weekly ESPN.com chat. He said the A's were still a good team and would recover when they got healthy. That's the only guy I know of who still believed in the A's in May.
At the moment, the A's appear to be the best team in the baseball.
I don't know, maybe that was actually GM Billy Beane who e-mailed -- but whoever it was, give him credit, because now everyone is on the A's bandwagon ... including me!
The St. Louis Cardinals are the most complete team in baseball, but they've been hit by some injuries lately. So, at the moment, the A's appear to be the best team in the game. They've gone from the struggling A's to the amazing A's in two months. Clearly, they're playing better than any other team.
Two months ago, it looked as though Oakland had no chance to catch the first-place Angels. But the A's are proving that their 7-20 May was an aberration. Now they are in second place, only four games behind the Angels, and they lead the wild-card race.
How have the A's bounced back?
It has been a team effort, and let's start with the pitching staff. Rich Harden will be a superstar as long as he stays healthy. He's the anchor of the staff, even with Barry Zito still in the rotation as the last remaining member of Oakland's old Big Three.
After Harden and Zito, the rest of the rotation features Danny Haren, Joe Blanton and Kirk Saarloos. Zito, 27, is the oldest of the group.
This is a good nucleus, though the last three aren't better than Mark Mulder and Tim Hudson (the departed members of the Big Three). The jury is still out on those three young pitchers, but they're pitching well this season.
But the jury isn't out on Harden. He's the same caliber pitcher as the Big Three, and he'll be an ace.
Meanwhile, I've been surprised at how productive the offense has been. Since the All-Star break, the A's have scored more runs than any other team. Offense has been a weakness for Oakland since Miguel Tejada became a free agent and signed with the Baltimore Orioles before last season.
When I look at the A's offense, I don't understand how it's generating all those numbers with the personnel available. The only proven RBI guy is Eric Chavez (17 HRs, 60 RBI), but the A's are scoring runs. It's a perfect example of the whole being better than the parts.
Between the surprising offense and the solid pitching, Oakland has been winning in different ways. The A's can beat you 2-1 or 12-11. They took seven of eight recently from the Texas Rangers by outscoring them, and they took two of three from the Angels by shutting them down (because the Angels' pitchers threw well). The A's are getting good pitching when they need it, and they're scoring runs when they have to.
As Sunday's trade deadline approaches, I don't see the A's making any big deals. But the big-market teams like the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox, who might end up battling Oakland for the wild card, could make some big deals that would shift the balance of power in the AL.
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It's times like these when I wish
by Masaryk on Jul 28, 2005 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If your really sacred
by RickeySteals on Jul 28, 2005 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morgan is bogus
Anything he has to say about the A's is either derogetory or lame.
by theDyeiscast on Jul 28, 2005 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morgan annoys me
by lansfords1 on Jul 28, 2005 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly
by pbruins92 on Jul 28, 2005 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give him no credit either
So again, all Joe Morgan proves is that he's not interested in reading "that book that Billy Beane wrote" to help shed some light on why the A's are making a run at the post season for the 6th consecutive year.
by almostreggie on Jul 28, 2005 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone check the weather forecast...
by SoCal As Fan on Jul 28, 2005 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
joe morgan is cool..
by AllThingsOakland on Jul 28, 2005 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For his next trick:
And we will all once again nod, saying "yep."
by Ozzz on Jul 28, 2005 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen to that!
by andeux on Jul 28, 2005 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best quote...
by jeffds1205 on Jul 28, 2005 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or this...
Give him credit, at least the man can admit that he just doesn't get it. On the other hand, if he wanted to, he could probably try thinking outside the box and realize there are other ways to generate runs besides relying on "big RBI guys."
Although I won't hold my breath waiting for that.
by sonomanate on Jul 28, 2005 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could the A's possibly be scoring runs?
by AsGirl on Jul 28, 2005 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
puh-leeeeze
Re-post from a less apt thread:
Pay no attention to the inept commentator. He spends his time trying to regurgitate some form of conventional wisdom. Joe has soundly declared that he has noticed some headlines on articles over the past two weeks (but has he read them?). Big deal! If the A's come back down to earth, he'll jump off that bandwagon and sling his sloppy analysis around and tell us it's gospel.
"Now there's a guy who knows how to play the game." - common Joe Morgan insight.
by eebie on Jul 28, 2005 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Since when did Joe Morgan become insider content?
Insider in general, is a waste of my money.
by secret ASian man on Jul 28, 2005 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus...
by baseballgirl on Jul 28, 2005 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The worst part
by nycfan on Jul 28, 2005 2:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope
by bigthree17 on Jul 28, 2005 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does everyone hate Joe Morgan
by Duby on Jul 28, 2005 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Because he's a stubbornly ignorant
http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com
The reason I (and I suspect many other A's fans) started to hate Joe Morgan is that he continuously tries to rebut Moneyball, both as a book and as an operational philosophy, while proudly stating he's never read and never will read the book. And, for about 2 years after the book came out, he thought Billy Beane wrote the book.
by nickolai on Jul 28, 2005 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not the he hates the A's
by pbruins92 on Jul 28, 2005 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...Joe..
Yes, the jury is still out on or back half of the rotation...which means that like in a court of law, they are still deciding about whether they are good or not.
But when you say "the jury isn't out on harden" that makes no sense. It just means Harden was never tried and prosecuted for (in this case) being a good pitcher. So what does that mean? Harden is "innocent" of being a good pitcher? You crazy sob! If you are going to take a well-known phrase and switch it around at least KNOW what it means. If you have to say a backwards comment like that say, "The jury is BACK on harden, and they say he is good."
Then again, why would you understand our judicial system. You can't learn anything by studying or READING about law. You'd have to be in a courtroom for 20 years and say "Now there's a lawyer who knows how to defend his case. I don't care how many times he lost in the courtroom, if I wanted to plug numbers into video games, they would spit out things to say he's good. If you're going to testify, you have to play smallball and sacrifice a few jury members to get the winning testimony across."
Moron.
by WhiteElephantGuy on Jul 28, 2005 4:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Morgan's a moron!!!!
Linguistically speaking, "the jury isn't out on Harden" in no way implies that the jury was never out on Harden. Taken literally, all it conveys is that the jury is not currently out. The jury may be going to be out later, it may have returned from being out, it may be on break from being out - planning on returning to an out state at a later point, or it may never be out.
The jury may have been out and returned a decision that Rich Harden is guilty of being a good pitcher. The case may not have gotten to the point where the jury had the chance to decide since the judge threw out the case because Harden was clearly innocent of pitching below his magnificent abilities or the prosecuter may have never brought it to trial.
Taking the statement in a literal fashion, any of those possibilities are entirely linguistically possible.
But - since this is clearly not a statement meant to be taken literally, as, clearly, their is no jusry examining either Rich Harden or the back of our rotation, it would be entirely appropriate to grant Mr. Morgan a little bit of literary license since it is entirely clear to anyone with even a quarter of a brain - including you, I might add - what it is that he intended to convey.
by devo on Jul 28, 2005 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we were going to
Also, no need to insult me, it was a joke, or is that a quarter of the brain you dont' use?
by WhiteElephantGuy on Jul 28, 2005 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SWING... and a MISS
Just in case you were wondering.. He still doesnt get it. RBI's Joe? You can do better. I have faith in you. Please tell me he doesn't really think that the only way to score is to have a "proven RBI guy". Somebody should tell Swisher that he has to stop knocking in guys because he doesn't have a history of RBIs. Whatever, the A's have scored more runs than the CWS.
by Parklife on Jul 28, 2005 4:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that comment
R..O...F...L
by MrIncognito on Jul 29, 2005 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This just in: Joe Morgan doesn't get it
But then again, maybe he's finally starting to. "It's a perfect example of the whole being better than the parts."
Yes, it is - in fact, that's a central tennant in the offensive philosophy generally associated with Moneyball. That's what the concept of avoiding outs is all about - even if you don't get the job done, you don't make an out, giving your teammate a chance to get the job done.
by devo on Jul 28, 2005 4:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, thank you, thank you....
and yes, I agree with the rest of you - Joe Morgan is a super moron.
by sf drift king on Jul 28, 2005 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I Believed in them in May
I believed in them so much that when I was in Vegas in the beginning of June, I put down $50 for them to win the World Series and hedged myself by also putting down $50 for them to win the American League Championship. The odds during the first week in June? 300-1 for the WS, 150-1 for the ALC.
So I figure come October I'll be celebrating an A's World Series by cashing in $22,500!
Let's go OAK-LAND clap-clap-clapclapclap
by Zeavran on Jul 28, 2005 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this thread for real?
When he doesn't like the A's or criticizes their approach to the game, ANers say he's an idiot. The A's were pretty lousy not too long ago. Remember? There were plenty of people on this site begging for base stealing, small ball, big bats, high priced pitchers, etc. Now Joe's saying the A's are for real and he's an idiot because he's stating what some people think is so obvious. Cut him some slack.
by Reg on Jul 28, 2005 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't listen to Joe Morgan when he talks trash
It's the process that important. Joe Morgan forgets that all of the time, and I think some ANers are forgetting that now.
by salb918 on Jul 28, 2005 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a joe morgan fan either...
by baseballbabe on Jul 28, 2005 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually really enjoyed this column.
In truth, however, what I enjoyed most about this article was watching the contortions Morgan went through to avoid giving any credit to Beane or the A's philosophy (I expect he'll visit his chiropractor tomorrow). Writing about the A's current run w/out reference to their organizational philosophy is an impressive feat of denial. All I can say is, "wow!"
by lexdevil on Jul 28, 2005 11:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems pretty easy to understand to me
by MrIncognito on Jul 29, 2005 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Morgan is an ex Baseball Player
by Duby on Jul 29, 2005 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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