Wheelin' and Dealin'
Well, my speculation was right. Eric Byrnes is gone to launch monster home runs at Coors Field. He was traded along with Omar Quintanilla to the Colorado Rockies for Joe Kennedy and Jay Witasick.
Good luck to Byrnes, who will thrive in Colorado (what guy with power doesn't?). Quintanilla's numbers had actually gone down the last few seasons, but there is a chance he might still wind up being a high quality player. I know Ron Washington had said several times he felt like Quintanilla would eventually be an outstanding middle infielder. But with Cliff Pennington poised to rise through the ranks quickly, the A's suddenly felt like they could move Omar. In his first two seasons in the minors, Quintanilla had a .387 OBP and a .329 batting average. This year, Quintanilla dropped to a .347 OBP and a .293 average. Those just aren't the kind of numbers that makes Billy Beane excited. Oh, and here is a key line from John Sickels The Baseball Prospect Book 2005 (which, by the way, was the only book Billy Beane had on his desk):
That batting average has dropped this year. Not a good sign.
Any way, the A's lose guaranteed right-handed thunder against lefties in Byrnes and a prospect who may still develop into a top flight ML infielder. Or he could go the way of Jose Ortiz, another A's "infielder of the future" who never quite made the jump to the bigs.
What do they get in return? I'll get to Joe Kennedy in a second. The A's get Gerald Alphonse "Jay" Witasick back for a second tour of duty by way of the Royals, Padres, Yankees, Padres (again), Giants, Padres (again) and now the Rockies. Ignore Witasick's lifetime 4.60 ERA for a minute and realize that this guy's stats have been climbing the last couple of years. He is striking out righties and lefties and neither is hitting him well. And get this, at home in the thin Coors Field air, Witasick has a 2.11 ERA this year and a 4:1 K/BB rate. This is a high-quality reliever. A strikeout pitcher who deepens the A's pen, and the best part is that he's versatile and can be used against righties and lefties, unlike Chad Bradford who was markedly worse against lefties (left-handed batters hit almost .298 against Bradford the last three seasons).
Getting Witasick signals to me that the A's are still thinking 2005, and not 2006.
As for Kennedy, the A's essentially swapped $2.2 million one-year contracts with the Rockies, attempting to get a deeper pitching staff. And possibly an extra LOOGY. Even though he's been battered around by lefties this year, Kennedy excelled against lefties last year who hit only .184 against him and had an OPS against of .594. That smells of classic LOOGY to me. The question is, can he get it back this season? I imagine the A's front office thinks so, otherwise they wouldn't have dealt for him.
Overall, these deals collectively look much better to me tonight than they did this morning. They probably wouldn't have if Witasick wasn't included in the deal, but that sends a clear message to me that the A's are going to try and win this year. Payton can hit righties who Kielty struggles against and he is now a solid backup centerfielder who can give Kotsay a day off here and there. I wouldn't rule out another deal for a power bat at some point too...it just depends on what is available.
Finally, I want to say something about Eric Byrnes. Byrnes always gave everything he had to the Oakland A's and it took everything he had to finally get on a major league roster. He's an example of what hard work and dedication can get you. His heart and hustle will be missed and I want to wish him the best in Colorado. He's going to a fastball league and playing in Colorado and I believe he will flourish. Best of luck, Byrnsie.
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Bellwether
But these moves certainly are telling as well.
by monkeyball on Jul 13, 2005 8:58 PM PDT 0 recs
Payton's hitting .230 against righties...
by FoolshGame22 on Jul 13, 2005 8:59 PM PDT 0 recs
over his career
by Athletics fan and runner on
Jul 13, 2005 9:00 PM PDT
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Foolsh
by Dog Days on
Jul 13, 2005 9:04 PM PDT
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I have byrnes'
by Athletics fan and runner on
Jul 13, 2005 9:06 PM PDT
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I met Byrnes twice
I wish him all the best.
by Dog Days on
Jul 13, 2005 9:08 PM PDT
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no byrnes auto on my shrine
by burnone on
Jul 13, 2005 9:29 PM PDT
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I just got
by gigglingone on
Jul 13, 2005 9:34 PM PDT
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Over the last three years
by Blez on
Jul 13, 2005 9:10 PM PDT
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yeah, I'm sure he'll rake righties this year, too
by FoolshGame22 on
Jul 13, 2005 9:16 PM PDT
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got another $100 that says Byrnes out hits Payton
by FoolshGame22 on
Jul 13, 2005 9:26 PM PDT
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didn't think so... ;-)
by FoolshGame22 on
Jul 13, 2005 9:30 PM PDT
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HE IS GOING TO COORS
A better bet would be if he approaches the OPS that Payton had as a rockie (.982 in 2002 and .865 in 2003).
by Athletics fan and runner on
Jul 13, 2005 9:32 PM PDT
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sorry... it's Payton vs. Byrnes...
by FoolshGame22 on
Jul 13, 2005 9:36 PM PDT
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Yeah
And I have no interest in a bet that A) involves somebody from the net that has a history of doing dishonest things with the cherrypicking of stats and I don't even know,
B) I would feel like I had to root against byrnes in coors, which is something that I don't want to do, and
C) the net is a pitchers park, one of the best in the american league and coors is the best hitters park in the history of baseball.
by Athletics fan and runner on
Jul 13, 2005 9:41 PM PDT
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I always knew you were a smart guy, AFAR
by FoolshGame22 on
Jul 13, 2005 9:43 PM PDT
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I am going to miss byrnes
Payton appears to basically be as good a hitter as byrnes and a better fielder, but I will miss byrnes.
by Athletics fan and runner on Jul 13, 2005 9:00 PM PDT 0 recs
2005
BB wants to win every minute of every hour of every day of every year.
What could be better for a fan? Go A's!
by Force on Jul 13, 2005 9:02 PM PDT 0 recs
Here here
Being one of the kool-aid drinkers, one of the Billy Believers, I'm on board and interested to see how these moves play out. I'm hopeful that Kennedy can be a solid lefty out of the 'pen and Witasick-Duchscherer-Street makes 7-8-9 seem like 1-2-3.
Let's go Oakland! See you guys at the game tomorrow night!
by Dog Days on Jul 13, 2005 9:02 PM PDT 0 recs
Witasick has flourished...
I'll be the first to eat my words if he has a solid tour of duty with the A's (in his second try), but... until then... I'll admit I'm not thrilled. It just seems too much tinkering for too little ultimate purpose-- the team's still basically much the same now as it would have been had Beane not done anything.
by Trocmagic on Jul 13, 2005 9:03 PM PDT 0 recs
Hear hear
If Payton kills our chemistry, I'll be po'd.
by oblique on Jul 13, 2005 9:03 PM PDT 0 recs
Missing Byrnes Already
So long, Eric. I'll follow your career and work elsewhere, unfortunately.
I'm disappointed as hell right now.
by Dan_Honolulu on Jul 13, 2005 9:03 PM PDT 0 recs
There's a new rumor going around
by Nico on Jul 13, 2005 9:06 PM PDT 0 recs
can we trade
by gigglingone on
Jul 13, 2005 9:07 PM PDT
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Good luck Eric!
Good luck!!
by gigglingone on Jul 13, 2005 9:06 PM PDT 0 recs
and she's 8 months preggo
by burnone on
Jul 13, 2005 9:31 PM PDT
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I will miss byrnes.
And here is a story about why you should hold off on getting jerseys for players. This year, I got myself an Eric Byrnes green jersey via the internet and they would not ship to canada for a reasonable price. So I had it shipped to my parents place in california. When it got there I told my parents to hold onto it as I would get it when I went back to visit. Some things came up (with my wife's health) and I decided to skip visiting in june. Well, as of now, my brand new Eric Byrnes # 22 green A's jersey has yet to be worn. And he is not an A anymore..... I also have a Durazo shirt that I have yet to wear.
seriously, I am going to miss him. I am going to miss the spark and the hustle. I am going to miss the diving catches and the energy. I actually understand why people tend to either love him or hate him and, even though I can tell that ultimatly he is an average player, he was ours and he was special. I think that he is the first of the players that came through sacramento and became a regular and those players are special to me.
Good luck in coors Eric, I hope that you hit 30 dingers there (and I hope that your glove improves!)!
by Athletics fan and runner on Jul 13, 2005 9:09 PM PDT 0 recs
Sorry to hear about the shirts...
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post-steroid era bullpen?
also, in the short term, it's probably a good thing to have plenty of long relief guys because this rotation is so young and a little unsteady (aces one month, terrible the next).
by xbhaskarx on Jul 13, 2005 9:10 PM PDT 0 recs
More moves?
-- It this supposed to be in reference to this deal or possible future ones. I think we'll see a few more before the deadline--
"The two pitchers we got were exactly what we were looking for in terms of improving our pen," said Forst, emphasizing Kennedy's prowess against lefties. "
--Does this free up a Rincon deal to improve the team elsewhere?--
by gojohn10 on Jul 13, 2005 9:10 PM PDT 0 recs
I'm Sorry
My daughter loves him - we'd bust a gut watching him run out a triple... "Looks like he's gonna fly apart any second!"
But to be REALLY honest, I'm still nursing a grudge about not touching the plate in Boston. That and Miggy stopping to argue a call make up one of my worst A's nightmares.
Good luck Eric - may the thin Colorado air bring you much free agent success.
by tmail on Jul 13, 2005 9:11 PM PDT 0 recs
You had to bring that up?
by ak_A on
Jul 13, 2005 9:32 PM PDT
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Disappointed
I can't wait to hear what you have to say about all of this as you are always a good quote.
I'm in mourning right now and I'm pissed.
Sure, Billy makes some great trades and I hope this one works out for the team, but damn, I really liked this guy.
Payton is going to be on a very very very short leash.............
by Masaryk on Jul 13, 2005 9:12 PM PDT 0 recs
The biggest bummer
by oblique on Jul 13, 2005 9:15 PM PDT 0 recs
Doubtful
Now, yes, I can see Crotchby potentially GIPDing against Chadford -- but a swinging K is more likely.
by monkeyball on
Jul 13, 2005 9:19 PM PDT
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Hear Hear!!
by Wooka on
Jul 13, 2005 9:21 PM PDT
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I feel so utterly sad.
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jul 13, 2005 9:16 PM PDT 0 recs
maybe he'll touch the plate in Colorado
In Billy We Trust
by vidabluefan on Jul 13, 2005 9:16 PM PDT 0 recs
no way
trade rincon!
by xbhaskarx on
Jul 13, 2005 9:20 PM PDT
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I wonder how Kennedy and Kendall will mesh...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1864072
"Kendall was batting in the fourth inning of Pittsburgh's 3-0 win when a pitch from Kennedy hit the protective pad the catcher wears on his upper left arm.
Kendall dropped his bat and started toward first base. Kennedy stepped off the mound and appeared to say something to Kendall, which caused Kendall to abruptly turn and charge the pitcher. After a brief wrestling match that brought players out of both dugouts and bullpens, order was restored."
by FireballerHARDEN on Jul 13, 2005 9:18 PM PDT 0 recs
jasonkendall.net
by Athletics fan and runner on
Jul 13, 2005 9:20 PM PDT
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haha, sweet!
by xbhaskarx on
Jul 13, 2005 9:21 PM PDT
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the video might
by Athletics fan and runner on
Jul 13, 2005 9:24 PM PDT
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What's crazy about that...
I guess Kendall is one guy you don't mess with.
by FireballerHARDEN on
Jul 13, 2005 9:23 PM PDT
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With these trades Billy shows
But I don't think Beane is done yet
by OaklandSi on Jul 13, 2005 9:21 PM PDT 0 recs
On the otherhand
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exactly
Pretty nifty, huh?
(However, I don't think he's done for this year.)
by OaklandSi on
Jul 14, 2005 12:22 PM PDT
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Which Brynes will you remember?
by gojohn10 on Jul 13, 2005 9:22 PM PDT 0 recs
THANKS
Look at him hopping around...goddammitttouchthefuckinplateyoumoron
I feel better and don't really miss him much anymore. He's got a phat payday coming after a couple years at coors anyways.
by FireballerHARDEN on
Jul 13, 2005 9:26 PM PDT
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I guess I know which you will remember
by gojohn10 on
Jul 13, 2005 9:28 PM PDT
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Aggghhh, exactly
by ak_A on
Jul 13, 2005 9:35 PM PDT
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Dammit!!!
Okay... take a cleansing breath... CRAP!!!! DONTEVENGETMESTARTED!!!!
by tmail on
Jul 13, 2005 10:57 PM PDT
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chill out dude
by Apricot on
Jul 13, 2005 11:03 PM PDT
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steam....as i have related before on this site
by ak_A on
Jul 13, 2005 11:35 PM PDT
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ok gojohn10
by Apricot on
Jul 13, 2005 11:44 PM PDT
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i need my pills to help me sleep tonight
by ak_A on
Jul 13, 2005 11:47 PM PDT
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a bit of consolation
by Apricot on
Jul 13, 2005 11:56 PM PDT
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wow
Really, to me the picture is annoying more than painful. The way the lost in 2001, I was devestated. Ever since, I've adopted a different way of dealing with painful moments. I really have to distance myself from the state I was in at the time (hyterics).
Just curious, do you cry when you see the Gibson HR from '88 (I did in real life when it happened - give me a brake, I was a kid)
by gojohn10 on
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hmm
Well, I was in California at the time and I still live here, so it's kind of tough for me.
I'm not a real crier. But at that awful Game 3, my wife and I were watching on a blurry TV wrestling with a rabbit-ears antenna trying to get a good picture. I definitely was doing a lot of pacing and yelling. That was definitely the worst playoff loss in my mind. The others at least I had grudging respect for the opposing team. But that version of the BoSox I really despised with my gut.
by Apricot on
Jul 14, 2005 12:11 AM PDT
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oh
by Apricot on
Jul 14, 2005 12:14 AM PDT
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Recommended!
by gojohn10 on
Jul 14, 2005 12:19 AM PDT
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Re: Gibson's HR
I feel like going to the supermarket, buying that box of Wheaties featuring that homer on it, and slicing it up with an ax. :)
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on
Jul 14, 2005 8:26 AM PDT
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The Gibson "thing"
by ak_A on
Jul 14, 2005 8:42 AM PDT
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Ouch....
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on
Jul 14, 2005 1:19 PM PDT
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can I come to your party now?

20th consecutive win
by gojohn10 on
Jul 14, 2005 12:17 AM PDT
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That's what I'm talking about!
by FireballerHARDEN on
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thank you, gojohn10
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YOU ARE A VERY BAD MAN.
by Apricot on
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Both...
It won't be the same without Byrnes. I'll miss his crazy energy, flair for the dramatic, and red-hot hitting streaks.
I won't miss the bonehead who made so many basic baseball fielding mistakes, could never hit (or lay off) a right hander's good slider, and forgot the most basic baseball rule - Touch home plate!
I think he will do well in Colorado, and wish him luck.
by bear88 on
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i'll remember
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The one that cost us the playoffs
by paul75 on
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SAVES MONEY
Payton = free agent end of 2005
Witasick = free agent end of 2005
Bradford = $1.5m+ arbitration coming next year
Byrnes = $3m+ arbitration coming next year
I don't believe this talk from Beane/Forst at all. We are not going to pay Kennedy $3m next year (his likely arbitration figure next year) to be in the bullpen. We can't possibly be looking at Payton for LF or RF when we already have Kotsay patrolling on defense.
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