Austin Kearns

by smith1051 on Jul 1, 2005 2:21 PM PDT

With all the talk of Austin Kearns I thought this would be very interesting to AN.

I live in Kansas City and get the KC Star - it appears the Reds were asking for Greinke and Affeldt in exchange for Kearns. The Royals rejected it....

From the article...

The Royals' top priority remains a young, power-hitting corner outfielder, but they continue to reject any proposal that requires them to surrender struggling right-hander Zack Greinke in return.

Cincinnati, at one point, sought Greinke and Affeldt in return for outfielder Austin Kearns even after demoting Kearns to the minors.
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The question posed to AN --- I think we would have a very good chance at getting Kearns if that is what Cincinnati was asking from KC.

Which players would we offer in place of Greinke/Affeldt if we were serious about Kearns?

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Shee

The Reds ask WAY too much for Kearns. The guy showed potential a few years ago, now he's a scuffling OF who can't get past Wily Mo Pena on the Reds depth chart.

The Reds are trying to sweep 2003-04 Austin Kearns under the rug and pretend their dealing 2002 Austin Kearns. Unfortunately for them, all he's shown over the last two years is an inability to stay healthy and an inability to hit when he is healthy.

I wouldn't give up anything more than a AAA starter and maybe a low-level 1B for him. Asking for Grienke (or, in our case, asking for Harden) is outrageous for a guy who hasn't put up "slugger" numbers since 2002.

by Uncle Charlie on Jul 1, 2005 2:43 PM PDT reply actions

Man alive!

I agree Uncle Charlie. Grienke is as close to untouchable as they get. He may be struggling, but he has worlds of promise and is well-regarded. Let me put the trade this way:

The Royals are to send two major leaguers to the Reds for a minor leaguer. No thanks. The Reds management is incredibly stupid to demote Kearns, drop his value, and then try to ask the farm of other teams for this guy. Man!

I'd take Kearns for, say, Jairo Garcia and B-prospect. Frankly, I think that's almost overpaying.

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by salb918 on Jul 1, 2005 2:49 PM PDT reply actions

Grienke = Harden

Please tell me you are comparing them because they are both #1 starters and not on numbers!

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by smith1051 on Jul 1, 2005 2:50 PM PDT reply actions

Reds

Geez, no wonder their team sucks so much

It would be like the Mariners asking us for Byrnes and Beane demanding Felix Rodriguez. Or insisting the cubs give up Prior for Byrnes. Absolutely ridiculous! You'd think the Reds would want to make trades---clearly they don't. Talk about overvaluing your own prospects

For Kearns, I'd give up ONE of the following pitchers: Braden, Garcia, Windsor.
The best position player prospect I'd give up would be Ethier, but honestly I'd rather keep him.

If Beane could make a deal somewhere along the lines of Garcia/Putnam, then I'd be happy getting Kearns. Any more than that is just too much.

If the Reds don't like it, they can keep him and stay a terrible team. It makes me mad that they asked for Harden! Who do they think they are!

"Let's see, for breakfast Rickey will have bacon and eggs, and grits if I can get 'em." --Rickey Henderson (I LOVE Rickey!)

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Jul 1, 2005 2:57 PM PDT reply actions

REDS are idiots

They want soo much for people the screw themselves.
I still remeber them asking for HARDEN...
SO FUNNY.

by novaoakland on Jul 1, 2005 3:02 PM PDT reply actions

Reds keep asking too much for Kearns

at this rate they may have a problem filling any of their needs via trades

by OaklandSi on Jul 1, 2005 3:12 PM PDT reply actions

Reds

Are stupid. First they spend a bunch of money on the likes of Eric Milton in the off-season. Then they release Danny Graves; perhaps not unwarranted based on performance, but given the fact that his career has gone on a downward spiral since he became a starter at their request, you'd think they'd cut him some slack. Now they're still asking for guys like Greinke? I remember earlier in the season they were talking about Rich Harden being minimum if we wanted Kearns, and that's simply ridiculous. They need to be realistic.

by dchu on Jul 1, 2005 3:40 PM PDT reply actions

Is it any wonder

They must be the worst run organization in baseball, maybe worse than the DRays.

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by salb918 on Jul 1, 2005 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions

This is actually really funny...

It seems their asking price keeps getting higher as fewer and fewer teams bite. Soon enough, they're gonna want the entire A's starting pitching staff for Kearns and a bag of doritos! It funny to see how a team can be so poorly run. Makes me appreciate Beane all the more.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 1, 2005 7:00 PM PDT reply actions

no not worse then the devil rays

but not very good.(I live in ohio and trust me there are a couple of more run a lot worse. don't forget a fews seasons back the reds won 96(<~ i think) games then added griffey(sure he's done nothing till this year but hey it was a move in the right direction at the time). they have made some bad decisions as of late but as a organization they are about middle of the pack to me.

ohio roots

by nickatt7 on Jul 2, 2005 3:12 AM PDT reply actions