Open Thread: Game 31 - A's at New York (cont.)
Offense is nonexistent again. Billy Beane may be forced into a corner here. A position he doesn't like.
LET'S GO A'S!!!
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The Oakland A's, Everyone!
*Since 2003
I'm pulling for Brown to get the shutout!
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
they'll turn me into a giants fan
by lovethegame on May 8, 2005 12:16 PM PDT reply actions
OMG
by RichardP on May 8, 2005 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
i'll tell you what's sick
that's sick.
by lovethegame on May 8, 2005 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a difference
Negativity isn't contemptable, by the way--it's just a little sad, a lot easy to do, and very ignorant.
This too shall pass.
Hopefully :)
I sadly, easily and ignorantly state ...
sadly, easily, ignorantly and sincerely
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
he dosnt care that he might lose
by OakLaNdAs4LiFe32 on May 8, 2005 12:17 PM PDT reply actions
I love getting shutout!
I love losing to the Yankees!
I love the A's!!!11!1!
by GrapeApe on May 8, 2005 12:17 PM PDT reply actions
Time for a shake-up...
What do you mean?
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Aren't you guys used to this?
In fact, i even remember last year getting complete game shutout by Kevin Brown. This has happened my whole a's life, we always get dominated by pitchers weho get bombed by everyone else.
The mediocre Kenny Rogers...
that's because he's got 8 scoreless inns.
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
new theory
by benvenut on May 8, 2005 12:18 PM PDT reply actions
i'm thinking
harden is pitching well...
mlb radio is blacking out the commercials...
.....that's about all i got right now....
In a corner's probably right...
I'm starting to think that deal will be coming sooner than later. The offense gets chance after chance after chance after...well, you know. That sample size isn't so small anymore...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 8, 2005 12:19 PM PDT reply actions
here's the only positive thought of the day
woo hoo!
The announcers just pointed out...
Kotsay is a stud.
by NW Pachyderm on May 8, 2005 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
This is getting old...
-Can't drive in runners in RISP. Or can't hit with RISP either.
-Leave the bases loaded without scoring.
-Win in a fluky error-filled fashion.
-Outhit the oppostion, yet still loses.
-Can't hit anything but singles.
-Strike out in the most inopportune moments.
-Make mediocre pitchers look awesome.
-16 scoreless innings and counting.
Did I missing anything.
This is getting really old.
by secret ASian man on May 8, 2005 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
Harden's ERA up to this moment...
we could get something awesome for Rich
by CrazierthanYOU on May 8, 2005 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Possibly
....but only if they waste it.
by Mission1929 on May 8, 2005 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree...
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Requesting a trade...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 8, 2005 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
harden is such a sav
by OakLaNdAs4LiFe32 on May 8, 2005 12:23 PM PDT reply actions
Shake up in order indeed
Fire Dave Hudgens too, since it's not like he did anything to help our situational hitting either.
Trade Ginter and Byrnes, send Thomas down. I don't care who we get in return or who we bring up, it'll simply be addition by subtraction, not to mention a salary dump so we can afford to pick up a rental at the trade deadline.
by OaktownTribesman on May 8, 2005 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
Agreed
I'm not sure Wash will get along with Beane in the long run, but we've got the rest of the season to find out if they can find a way to work together. If so, great. If not, Wash moves on in 06 and we find a new middle-management type.
Guillen
Who's to guarantee
by OaktownTribesman on May 8, 2005 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I've gotta say,
Scary.
please do somethin a's
by OakLaNdAs4LiFe32 on May 8, 2005 12:26 PM PDT reply actions
Jesus
by RichardP on May 8, 2005 12:29 PM PDT reply actions
Gordon, Sturtze, Wang
by OaktownTribesman on May 8, 2005 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Crosby
by OaktownTribesman on May 8, 2005 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Just maybe...
Jay Witasick...
A's don't need pitching...
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
you can't sneak the cheese past the Rat !!
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ginter for Olmedo!
by OaktownTribesman on May 8, 2005 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember his 9th inning shot against Nen?
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
What about this year...
by BillyBall 81 on May 8, 2005 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Todd Helton, Mark Sweeny...
by BillyBall 81 on May 8, 2005 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Place for Rent
by agentjordo on May 8, 2005 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
when is crosby coming back?
by OakLaNdAs4LiFe32 on May 8, 2005 12:30 PM PDT reply actions
Not really sure
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/05/05/SPGDBCK9N61.DTL
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 8, 2005 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If that was the heart of the A's order,
If we rally to win in the 9th, you'll see how a Friday game can affect a Sunday's game.
And if we're shut out, maybe Beane will be inspired (forced) to make a move earlier than he probably wants to.
I'm almost afraid
The team is better than it's shown. But it's May 8th. And everyday is more frustrating than the last. Imagine how the players feel.
why is every1 ignoring me
by OakLaNdAs4LiFe32 on May 8, 2005 12:32 PM PDT reply actions
No
by secret ASian man on May 8, 2005 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No
by secret ASian man on May 8, 2005 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No
by OaktownTribesman on May 8, 2005 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Both players
by secret ASian man on May 8, 2005 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
good defense beats good offense
bright spot of the day: we've only left 7 men on base!! that's a pretty small number for us this year!
and at least chavez and byrnes have, uh, oh nevermind...
I like it...
by NW Pachyderm on May 8, 2005 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
damn.
by OakLaNdAs4LiFe32 on May 8, 2005 12:35 PM PDT reply actions
"4LiFe"
I am Oakland A's fan "4LiFe" no matter how much I bitch about it.
by secret ASian man on May 8, 2005 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Calro hasn't been the same...
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Not Even At The Game
by agentjordo on May 8, 2005 12:38 PM PDT reply actions
And this isn't being talked about enough...
Prediction
Poor, Poor Harden.
Outfielders on uncompetitive teams?
Forget it.
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
where are the smurfs when i need them???
You could not summarize
THAT'S how an offense score runs.
Calero has NOTHING
by OaktownTribesman on May 8, 2005 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
D.L. time.
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
4-8 in this 12-game stretch ... if A's are lucky
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
That's positive thinking!
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I Don't Feel so good....
by Mission1929 on May 8, 2005 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
opposing cy young
damn, just swing the bat!!!!!
ouch is right
by benvenut on May 8, 2005 12:42 PM PDT reply actions
I'm impressed
* Only our A's can break the Yankees out of all of their slumps simultaneously
* Only our A's can trade for and/or retain "proven" players (Calero, Rincon, Chavez, Kendall, etc) and somehow cause them to stink it up Royally
* Only our A's can regularly enter situation where even a crappy performance (GIDP, for example) would score a run, and STILL not score a run!
Wow.
fire macha!
Let me get this straight
Is that right?
by RichardP on May 8, 2005 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
nope
by RichardP on May 8, 2005 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Turning out to be the worst trades ever.
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It's important for A's to stand pat and let
Remember, track records are ever-reliable, infallible and irrefutable !!
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:44 PM PDT reply actions
I thought 'track records' were like Bob Beamon
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I am going to hang in there
But the lows are more frustrating since I became a real-time follower day to day with mlbtv and ANation.
yikes
The Yankees stunk last year...
Can't wait for the A's to go 1-2-3 in the 9th!
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we PLEASE at least avoid a shut out?
by Mission1929 on May 8, 2005 12:45 PM PDT reply actions
We need a hitting coach
by agentjordo on May 8, 2005 12:46 PM PDT reply actions
AMEN brother...
by BillyBall 81 on May 8, 2005 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Dan O'Dowd
by agentjordo on May 8, 2005 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Calero
If we had a better season ticket base....
The silver lining in this is that we'll never be allowed to go into the tank. Seattle could get away with it last year because they have a decent revenue base.
by Rob @ Athletics Nation on May 8, 2005 12:46 PM PDT reply actions
Anyone know the record
by NW Pachyderm on May 8, 2005 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
You Stole my Post Nico
You can't just sit there when 20% of the games have been shutouts...and and ANOTHER 40% or so have been 1 or 2 runs. You can't waste pitching like we've had, and not be above .500!!
Do something Billy......NOW!
Yup.
Why the A's "remember" these things sporadically, instead of habitually, is utterly beyond me.
I'm doin' it right now....
by Mission1929 on May 8, 2005 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He would drive his car into a ditch.
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice!
by BillyBall 81 on May 8, 2005 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
or punch a Marshmellow Salesman !!
that always makes me think of Ghostbusters and the stay-puf man ... or whatever the hell that was !!
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
our highlight of the year is coming imo...
The A's...
by BillyBall 81 on May 8, 2005 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate both teams...
by Coach Cleats on May 8, 2005 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
you haven't seen the women in texas then.
Watching the Yankees...
Their pitching must really suck WHEN they face major league hitting!!
I have said
That's the part that frustrates me most. But I had this team 41-40 at the halfway point (51-30 after), and they're right on pace, especially if you factor in the (unforseen) damage of losing Crosby and Swisher for extended periods.
And remember: it is always darkest before the dawn.
Sounds like a Joe Morgan explanation...
by BillyBall 81 on May 8, 2005 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Financial backing?
by OaktownTribesman on May 8, 2005 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
OFAC Negativity and Idiocy
by reztips on May 8, 2005 12:54 PM PDT reply actions
at least get the abbreviation right
But I guess you're right. Macha is the best manager in the bigs isn't he? He sure has shaken the line up around to get better results. Oh wait, no he hasn't.
Anywho. LOL.
"it is always darkest before the dawn."
It's gonna be an Arctic Winter for A's in 2005
sun will reappear in Mid-February, 2006 !!
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If this game turns the Yankees season around
Hey
by RichardP on May 8, 2005 12:56 PM PDT reply actions
lack of scoring
We need some walks!
by rickeyrules on May 8, 2005 12:57 PM PDT reply actions
And remember: it is always darkest before the dawn
So now I can safely assume that this is as bad as it gets.
by Mission1929 on May 8, 2005 12:57 PM PDT reply actions
great
Is this team ever going to run of out donuts
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 12:59 PM PDT reply actions
Need to trade Durazo!
Anti-AN Troll
Jayho, if you are so critical of AN, why are you trolling here?
by reztips on May 8, 2005 1:00 PM PDT reply actions
you're an idiot.
I think
Is Scoot going to hit the 'often-attempted'
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 1:02 PM PDT reply actions
Hey Coach Cleats
by RichardP on May 8, 2005 1:03 PM PDT reply actions
hey coach cleats ...
speaking of mofo ... Happy Mofo Day !!
... all you mofos out there !!
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, dude.
I agree with Herb...
I want the A's to succeed! But...
true ....
thereby ensuring the shut out !!
that play summarizes this team right now.
I was being optimistic when I said earlier this team would win 75 ... hell they may not win 65 !!
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
anyone know CPR?
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the Yankees love a lot of things....
Just hide your pets.
by Mission1929 on May 8, 2005 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope so
Not a whole lot to say
The 2005 A's as currently consituted may not be very good, that's all. At least their offense isn't very good.
I hate to say it. I prefer to criticize Byrnes' defense, Chavez' approach at the plate, etc. (and they just got shut out again). But those two innings when they failed to score with bases loaded off a struggling Kevin Brown made me feel that they are simply overmatched, not against Brown, but in general.
The A's are still my team, of course. As soon as I'm back on the Bay area I'll be rooting for them in person. But it may be time to face some unpleasant realities.
That sucks...
by NW Pachyderm on May 8, 2005 1:07 PM PDT reply actions
This is pathetic
Scooter
The A's should waive Mabeus and fire Geren.
Now the A's go to Fenway
Standard OFAC Reply
Well, jayho, of course you will find differences of opinion on AN--a privilege found here where posters are permitted to differ with one another...unlike on OAFC where virtually everyone goosesteps to the pronouncements of their Queen (who appropriately still boasts about burning books).
Your maxim, jayho, "Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a drone." ;-)>
I notice that jayho's ole pal jbrk is one of those OFAC'ers who no longer posts here, having returned to OFAC where everyone sits around ratifying the prevailing opinion.There he experiences no criticism and only affirmation, something he didn't find on AN.
BTW, life must be hard on OFAC now that S & H are no longer the owners. The site would probably wither away if BB and Macha left--with nobody left to hate, it couldn't justify its existence...
by reztips on May 8, 2005 1:14 PM PDT reply actions
Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
I'm not sure why you are gunning for me but whatever - I don't know who you are and I really don't care about this. I've been logging onto athleticsnation.com since its infancy.
You've got a bone to pick for OAFC. Not sure why. But like I said, whatever.
It's mother's day. Who cares about this weird in fighting. You don't like that board, you like this one. I happen to like both.
And no way in hell I'm anti-BB.
::sigh:: anyways whatever bro.
As I see it,
- Without Crosby or Swisher in an already imperfect lineup, there is no adequate lineup Macha can make out--stop blaming him for that.
- For reasons beyond me, when we bunt for a hit to start rallies, steal and hit-and-run a bit, tag up from first on fly balls, zone-hit 3-0, etc. we suddenly begin scoring more reliably--and then we don't keep doing it (or we don't discover this idea until August). Blame Macha and the A's front office for not understanding that it takes A COMBINATION OF MONEYBALL AND LITTLE BALL to maximize your offense.
- Byrnes, bless his heart, does not play the game properly. He is not reliable fundamentally, in the field or at the plate, which is why he fails so consistently with "runner at 3rd less than 2 out" ABs and misses cutoff men like they're going out of style. Putting him in suggests you don't hold your players to major league standards. He'd never start for Torre.
- You're never as good as when you're going well, and you're never as bad as when you're going badly. The glass isn't ever half empty or half full--1/2 the cup's capacity always has liquid. It's how you feel about it that keeps changing.
- I'm being so rational and analytical in this time of frustration that someone really oughta slap me.
Tejada
Tejada's RBI: 34
Kendall, Durazo, and Chavez together: 35
Tejada with RISP: 41 PA, 15-for-38, 32 TB, 3 SO, 28 RBI
Chavez with RISP: 43 PA, 6-for-38, 8 TB, 12 SO, 7 RBI
A-Rod actually had 10 RBI in that game
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Neifi 'frickin' Perez hit his 4th HR of the season
Neifi's total would tie Durazo for A's team lead !!
by HerbWashington on May 8, 2005 1:40 PM PDT reply actions
At least we represented in NY!
by BHooves78 on May 8, 2005 1:46 PM PDT reply actions
He's killing my fantasy team too!
No A's [batters] for my fantasy team...
Morale
to the face of Ass-Rod.
Would have taken some of the sting out of this
visit.
Let's root for what REALLY needs to happen...
by FabulousG on May 8, 2005 1:52 PM PDT reply actions
On the bright side
A's: hit iceberg or ice cube?
After yet another losing season
Charles William "Chuck" Tanner
After yet another losing season
Pittsburgh Pirates
Manage
by ConcordFanSince1968 on May 8, 2005 2:48 PM PDT reply actions
Very bad
nfei perez's 4 homers
things will go up and down, but hatteberg and byrnes must go.
If this is a development year, lets develop dan johnson and some rivercats.
by GrewUpAtTheColiseum on May 8, 2005 3:34 PM PDT reply actions
HELL YEAH
Outfield Outfield Outfield
What we really need
Oh wait, that's what we already have on the DL.
This is rapidly becoming the minority position, but I still think the offence will be okay. If you had talked to me last night after the A's were shut out again, I would have probably said we needed to send Chavez to AAA for a couple weeks, released Byrnes, and made Kendall an expensive backup, but rationally I don't think things are quite as gloomy as they feel right now.

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