Open Thread: Game 3 - A's at Baltimore
Danny Haren makes his regular season debut for the Oakland Athletics going against Erik Bedard, the much-coveted pitcher in any trade talks with the O's (and rumored to be a part of a possible Zito deal last offseason before all the other deals went down).
Bobby Kielty gets his first start of the season, and it's no surprise because he still pounds left-handed pitching. What is a bit surprising is that he's hitting behind Eric Chavez. Kendall is batting third, as Macha promised to do a bit during spring training.
The lineup looks like this:
Kotsay
Byrnes
Kendall
Chavez
Kielty
Durazo
Ginter
Swisher
Scutaro
Swisher makes the start at first base while Kielty is playing in right field.
The O's, meanwhile, have changed up a few in their lineup, leaving Matos and Bigbie on the bench.
Roberts
Newhan
Mora
Tejada
Sosa
Palmeiro
Lopez
Surhoff
Gibbons
Hopefully, the A's take the series, Haren gets off to a good start in green and gold and the A's head into Tampa on a mini-roll.
Question: Just for fun, when do you think we'll first see Melhuse behind the dish? I added a poll about it, so click on entry link to vote.
LET'S GO A'S!!!!
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Ah...
Oh yeah...MARCO!
by Vic @ Athletics Nation on Apr 7, 2005 4:08 PM PDT reply actions
I love Durazo...
I actually like having someone in between Chavvy and Durazo - as I mentioned in another diary earlier this week...
by LD on Apr 7, 2005 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean first 2 games...
by LD on Apr 7, 2005 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
SCUTARO!!!
by secret ASian man on Apr 7, 2005 4:09 PM PDT reply actions
Swisher
Rhodes pitching well
by runtru1 on Apr 7, 2005 4:10 PM PDT reply actions
re
by pickinmachine on Apr 7, 2005 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
rhodes
Whew.
by kmonaco on Apr 7, 2005 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Byrnes
by Hegenberger Road on Apr 7, 2005 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
Ellis
former A's pitchers
Aaron Harang did his Kirk Saarloos impression, and earned a win for 6 1/3 innings of 1-hit ball against the Mets.
Arthurly Rhodes picked up the win for Cleveland, pitching 2 scoreless innings in an extra-innings game against the White Sox. Two scoreless innings!
And of course Hudson is making his debut for the Braves, at the same time as our game.
I think i'm only gonna get the braves marlins game
At least its an awesome game..
Braves/Marlins
Do u have satellite?
A's on ESPN
Plus I am heading down to tampa on sunday to watch them play!
LETS GO OAKLAND!!!!!
by Ryan Hadden on Apr 7, 2005 4:16 PM PDT reply actions
Hi-Def
did anyone watch the pregame intro on FSN?
I half expected some woman to walk up to him and ask him if he was the "handyman," here to fix the sink...
ok, it just switched from the braves intro to a
No ESPN and no baseball makes JJ
by JJ on Apr 7, 2005 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Greenwald...
Jason Kendall batting third...
If you took Joe Torre, stuffed him full of heroin, dropped him off the Empire State Building, performed a lobotomy on him with a salad fork and then fed him a liter of LSD, he'd still be a more coherent, thoughtful manager than Ken Macha.
Batting order
batting order
maybe not in a single game
by JJ on Apr 7, 2005 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Balks happen.
Yeah, batting order...
Also, starting pitching is over-rated, as well as fielding. I mean, they're wearing cowhide. How could that be serious? And those cylindrical wooden things.... don't make me laugh.
haven't we been saying it all along?
Kielty
totally...
I must be watching the Special Olympics
Have an opinion, if you want, andeux,
Any half-awake baseball statistician or analyst would tell you that batting order matters a lot. Batting Kendall third is well outside any halfway normal interpretation of how to best maximize production from your order.
In particular, you have to wonder why Macha doesn't bat Byrnes, who was one of the best hitters in baseball last year against lefties, in the third spot.
interested why you think that..
hmm...
opinion vs. fact
Seriously,
by TravelingAsFan on Apr 7, 2005 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
HR aside
agreed
by pickinmachine on Apr 7, 2005 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
There's simply no point in arguing with you...
The commercial FSN is showing is a generic commercial that they're showing on all the FSN broadcasts across the country, with only the radio call at the end different in different cities.
not true
Typical pathetic argument
You'll probably write back with a "at least I don't rely on personal attacks, ad hominem, vis a vis, blah blah blah," which everyone knows is the biggest joke ever. You don't use names but you attack anyone who might have an idea that's inconsistent with your own. It's a great strategy for remaining indestructible.
How could that moron Macha use Kendall as the third batter????!!!! HORRORS! This has never been done before! This is egregious! VIS A VIS!
Tony Gwynn was a singles hitter who seemed to do just fine batting third.
by Reg on Apr 8, 2005 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
So Andeux
No...
Does it begin to dawn on you
by TravelingAsFan on Apr 7, 2005 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a qstn
Kendall hitting third
I don't know Durazo's history against Bedard, so I'm ambivalent there. I don't mind righties (Byrnes, Kielty) getting more at-bats against a lefty pitcher.
why not?
I'm just curious, by the way. All of my "training" in baseball tells me the same thing, but I don't understand why you can't put a high OBP and BA guy in the third spot.
Kendall
Kendall is a leadoff or #2 hitter. It makes little sense for him to hit anywhere else.
They are just going with something different
Oh, and Kendall had 32 doubles...
A bleeder?
Kendall, again
I don't want to argue about this all evening. I think we've all stated our cases. I'm happy to agree to disagree.
Ha, ha,
It is this game.
by sf drift king on Apr 7, 2005 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
oooooh
Korach
Also funny is Korach saying Kevin Millaaaaah.
Braves game
It looks like he has slowed down his pitching motion, unless it's my imagination.
how is that a strike out
Math?
National League baseball
If it just me
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
Too many pitches for Haren...
26 pitch inning
another bb
Haren's suffering from Zito-itis
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:05 PM PDT reply actions
walks hurt
It looks like...
Nice catch by Kotsay.
Kotsay saves the day
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:08 PM PDT reply actions
phew!!
by oakasfan20 on Apr 7, 2005 5:08 PM PDT reply actions
Thinks look pretty slick out there...
Great catch by Kotsay. Give the kid credit though, he kept dealing even though he got into trouble.
Bedard isn't missing too many bats
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:10 PM PDT reply actions
15 runs
I forget the exact number, but last season A's scored about 950 runs. 15 runs is more than 1 percent. That's huge.
Scutaro's a good player, for example, but I'd rather have Chavez and Kotsay get their 40 or more extra ABs by being at the top of the order over Scoot, or other bottom hitters, at this point.
Cheers.
Just my two cents.
by kmonaco on Apr 7, 2005 5:15 PM PDT reply actions
I was wondering
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:17 PM PDT reply actions
He pees on his hands
Although how he does it between each inning I'm not sure.
by TravelingAsFan on Apr 7, 2005 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Lots of coffee...
whoops!
by TravelingAsFan on Apr 7, 2005 5:23 PM PDT reply actions
Braves
Did you see Kotsay?
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
Nice pitch by Haren
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:28 PM PDT reply actions
Did you guys see the FSN commercial?
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:29 PM PDT reply actions
Shoulda ejected Bedard on the spot
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:30 PM PDT reply actions
Did you see Kendall blow up
by sf drift king on Apr 7, 2005 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
gotta love kendall!!!
by JJ on Apr 7, 2005 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
He would've been
by JJ on Apr 7, 2005 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
What's going on in the braves game
Huddy RBI single
Let it go already!
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Not expecting him back
I agreed with the trades, but I still miss the guy. How could you not miss him?!
I'll check the box score to see how he did
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
by sf drift king on Apr 7, 2005 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
too bad he didn't back the look up
by JJ on Apr 7, 2005 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
3-0 Braves
huddy
Notes thus far...
- Bedard started the 1-9 with a fastball slider 1-2 the first time through.
- His change is an out pitch that he locates on the inside corner to righties, away from lefties.
- Bedard gave us a run with his balk, without it it is a 1-0 game
- Without Kotsay's D it is a 3 run game.
- Kendall's error cost haren 19 pitches in the 2nd.
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Apr 7, 2005 5:39 PM PDT reply actions
19 pitches!!!
by JJ on Apr 7, 2005 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
wild pitch
Scored as a passed ball
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
He got crossed up.
That pitch just crossed him up. It went right under his glove.
Huh, no E-2?
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Apr 7, 2005 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
These two kids are dealing!!!
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Apr 7, 2005 5:52 PM PDT reply actions
Haren wishes
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:56 PM PDT reply actions
Two K's in the inning
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 5:59 PM PDT reply actions
Fever Pitch
Yeah
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
This movie offends me...
At least give the thing a new name... Nick Hornby should be pissed...
Ah...stress!!
Haren!
by SurfingOC on Apr 7, 2005 6:21 PM PDT reply actions
Ruby
Haren
Why not?
Hell of a pitch to Swisher.
I know
by sf drift king on Apr 7, 2005 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it just me...
Ugh, Rincon
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:32 PM PDT reply actions
Haren's line looks pretty awesome...
Rincon
Yep...
Oriole Bullpen!
Snicker...
And he did just great both last night and tonight.
However, I can handle the Rincon/Colero/Dukescherer/Street combo a LOT better than Rincon/Mecir.
On Byrnsie Batting Second
I've also seen evidence that lineups don't matter much as long as they are somewhat reasonable. If swapping the top and bottom of your order loses 15 runs -- about 1.5 wins -- then switching roughly comparable hitters can't make much difference.
by floyd on Apr 7, 2005 6:37 PM PDT reply actions
Kotsay's
and Rincon survived.
Kotsay really takes the excitement
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:41 PM PDT reply actions
Hey everyone.
I'm excited to see this new bullpen in action!
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 6:44 PM PDT reply actions
Three hits...one solo HR...
I'm digging the Orioles announcers
They're funny, interesting, excited about the game, and they don't hate the A's.
BB to Scutaro...
I'm really rooting hard for him.
Great AB by scutaro
Atta boy Marco!
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 6:46 PM PDT reply actions
Love Scoot's new approach
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:46 PM PDT reply actions
Lovely play!
wow
by SurfingOC on Apr 7, 2005 6:46 PM PDT reply actions
Scooter
I love Byrnsy
by sf drift king on Apr 7, 2005 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That was bizzarre
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 6:47 PM PDT reply actions
2 runners on...
Kotsay OWES someone!
He TRIED to get out!!!
Something very odd is happening
YES
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 6:49 PM PDT reply actions
am I reading sportsline right
Make 'em pay!!!
by Hegenberger Road on Apr 7, 2005 6:49 PM PDT reply actions
boy did he ever...
woot!! Go Byrnes!!!!
by Hegenberger Road on Apr 7, 2005 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
AWWWWW.....YEAH!!!!
BURN BABY
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 6:49 PM PDT reply actions
I called it!!!
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:49 PM PDT reply actions
you sure did dude.
by sf drift king on Apr 7, 2005 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this the same Marco?
And have I mentioned how great it is to see game threads on AN again? Coming to these threads, wearing my AN ringer shirt, and my new A's cap, it feels like home and I'm digging it completely. :)
To be fair
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The credible threat of small ball
Case in point
To be perfectly fair...
Whoo hoo!
by oakasfan20 on Apr 7, 2005 6:50 PM PDT reply actions
CALERO TO DOTEL
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 6:50 PM PDT reply actions
They should do that all the time
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:50 PM PDT reply actions
The annoucers set that one up...
So the pitch was right down the middle. Byrnes says, "Um...okay. Three runs is better than one."
That's A's baseball, people!
Byrnesy!
The other thing is that I don't quite get why Kline is in the game; t wo of the three hitters he's facing, Scutaro and Byrnes, are much better against lefties. I'd think Julio would have given the O's better match-ups.
Byrnes!!
There you go CHAVVY!
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 6:52 PM PDT reply actions
Phooey...
but...
Not so impressed by Kielty...
At least
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
<does A's dance>
Terrible O's fielding
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:54 PM PDT reply actions
you said it,
Kielty!
Love to see Steve Kline struggle
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 6:55 PM PDT reply actions
I don't know about anyone else...
I wish I could say the same
by pickinmachine on Apr 7, 2005 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
There ya' go.
Shoulda pinch hit now
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 7:00 PM PDT reply actions
Let's hope
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 7:01 PM PDT reply actions
Totally Agree
by pickinmachine on Apr 7, 2005 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
WORD
Calero
Calero is their eighth
by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 7, 2005 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
who would've ever though
Hell of a pitch, Kiko.
Oh, I'm so sorry, Tejada!
Can we say BULLPEN!!!!
Swisher is gonna hit a lead-off jack
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 7:08 PM PDT reply actions
If it's still Julio pitching
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
by FireballerHARDEN on Apr 7, 2005 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Great pitching
Oh yeah, we can most definitely say bullpen!
GREAT signature by the way. I've only smoked a few cigars in my time, but, well, I can definitely appreciate the sentiment. :)
I'm amazed at how calm I am!
I'm not saying that we won't blow a save this year, but I'm going on record saying that it won't be the norm.
I EXPECT the bullpen to work. There's such a difference & it makes the game just that much more fun!
We can't hit off junkballers
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 7:13 PM PDT reply actions
Who's in now?
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 7:15 PM PDT reply actions
Kiko's back...
Calero out for 2 innings
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 7:16 PM PDT reply actions
I think it's clear
by OaktownTribesman on Apr 7, 2005 7:18 PM PDT reply actions
Dotel throwing, kids.
The game's on ESPN now
But only went 5
Absolutely FROZE B.J.
Kiko for Mayor!
I LOVE THESE A'S!
nice game
thats two solid performances from a couple of
Anyone else see Kendall's Finger Paint?
It's dark and drizzly so he paints his fingernails white for the pitchers to see his pitches...
This CAN BE A GREAT YEAR OAKLAND!!!!!
On another note...
Mark Mulder pitched 8 innnings for the A's tonight. For 1/10 his salary.
Howe about that?
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Apr 7, 2005 7:30 PM PDT reply actions
Can't remember the last time the real one did...
Beane Ball at it;s finest!!!
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Apr 8, 2005 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Whaaat, I missed the beaning of Sosa by Haren
scutaro
Solid game all around
Throw in a solid effort from Rincon (not flashy, but not nearly as nauseating as he can be) and a splendid turn from Calero and I have nothing but plaudits for the pitchers. And to have Byrnes come up big and then Chavvy show his stuff to get an extra run, well it was just a heartening experience all around.
Oh and props to Kotsay for his great catch in the second as well. I'm sure it helps the young pitchers immensely to know that they have a solid defense backing them up and in Kotsay's case, they have an absolute stud.

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