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Kotsay / Harden

It's THEIR team!  THEY are the leaders!  Others look to them for toughness, how-to-do-ness.  They will dictate how far the 2005 Oakland Athletics take this team this year, as well as for seasons to come...

KOTSAY:

Year            AB    AVG
1997            52   .192
1998            578  .279  
1999            495  .271  
2000            530  .298
2001            406  .291
2002            578  .292
2003            482  .266  
2004            606  .314

8 Seasons       3727  .287  

162 Game Avg    594   .287

HARDEN:

Year           IP     ER   BB   SO   ERA
2003           74.7   37   40   67   4.26
2004           189.7  171  81  167   3.99

162 Game Avg   199.7  91   91  176   4.12

I really, really, really, really,really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really...

...like the direction this team is going.  

Viva Oakland Athletics!!!!

Poll
What is the next step for Billy Beane?
Trade Byrnes
5 votes
Trade Dotel, Byrnes, & Scutaro to Cubs for Derrick Lee
15 votes
Sign Kotsay to a long-term deal
31 votes
Trade Chavez to the Rockies for Todd Helton + Cash
3 votes
Sign Haren to long term deal (alas, Harden)
11 votes
Trade Dotel
4 votes

69 votes | Poll has closed

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Are the things that should be done.

P.S. I think in that trade for Derrek Lee, we should get a prospect as well.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 11:40 AM PDT   0 recs

cubs
they still need a 2b right?  plus nomar will probably miss the bulk of the season.  maybe they would take ginter.  he's just rotting on the bench for us...

by xbhaskarx on Apr 22, 2005 11:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah
In the poll it has Scutaro as well. Thats more than enough for Derrek Lee, we  shoudl at least get a decent prospect back
Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 11:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

how long is Lee signed for and
what kind of salary numbers are we looking at?
Can we get Astropitch to sell "Free Dan Johnson" T-Shirts?

by carp on Apr 22, 2005 12:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

7.6 million this year
8.7 million next year.
Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 12:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Cubs
I really see something happening. We have what they need. Although I see a Byrnes/Dotel/Scoot (either or) for Corey Patterson and a bullpen arm or prospect. I would love to see him in green and gold. I hate perpetuating rumors, but the Cubbies are hurting bad.
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by dboysick on Apr 22, 2005 11:45 AM PDT   0 recs

They Love Patterson
And we don't want him either. The guys OBP is horrible. Derrek Lee is the guy we want from the Cubs. Trading Byrnes free's up room for Thomas to get in there.  
Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 11:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

it also seems
as if the Cubs have a knack of getting pitchers hurt.  Is it there regimen?  Should we be leary of a prospect pitcher (if they have one) from the Chubs?
Can we get Astropitch to sell "Free Dan Johnson" T-Shirts?

by carp on Apr 22, 2005 12:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pitchers
They have a few really good pitching prospects. One  of them has already been injured for an extended period, i don't know from what.
Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 12:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why?
Why would the cubs want to trade Lee? With Nomah out pretty much indefinitely, production is going ot be a major problem. They need to address pop in their lineup before they worry about closing games..........

by AlwaysSweatin on Apr 22, 2005 3:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Before Nomahs and Walkers injuries
I had the idea of Dotel and Maybe hatteberg and a prospect for Derrek Lee. After the injuries i have changed it to Byrnes/Dotel and Scutaro if needed for Derrek Lee and a prospect. Byrnes offsets that sort of, but giving Lee might end up being too much who knows.
Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 4:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lee
I would love to have Lee, he's a great hitter with speed. Plus he had a couple great seasons for me on MVP baseball last year. I just think the Cubs would be leery about parting with him, though they do need middle infield now, and scoot is definitely raising his stock on offense and defense.

by AlwaysSweatin on Apr 22, 2005 4:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't Kotsay
already signed for another 2-3 years?

by Jeff in Seattle on Apr 22, 2005 1:41 PM PDT   0 recs

kotsay:
5.5 mil '05, 5.5 mil '06- a steal really.
"Hey Ho Let's Go!"- The 2005 A's, kickin' some ass.

by bigelephant on Apr 22, 2005 1:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A bargain indeed
And I remember that when he was traded to us most of the people thought that he had a bad contract!

by Alex on Apr 22, 2005 3:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I confess
I did.
"Put a Milo on him."
-Billy Beane

by kaweahkaweah on Apr 22, 2005 3:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Definitely a bargain
I didn't worry about the contract, but I thought billy was crazy to trade Ramon. Of course i had never even seen Kotsay play...........

by AlwaysSweatin on Apr 22, 2005 4:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Precisely
I loved Ramone, but I didn't have a man-crush on him.
athleticsnation.com, 164

by ArakSOT on Apr 22, 2005 8:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lee not going anywhere
I don't know why everyone thinks the Cubs are trading Derrek Lee.  I really don't think it is going to happen.  They obviously like the guy and he is not old or overpriced.  I think it is wishful thinking in all this trade talk.

by stuck in NY on Apr 22, 2005 3:25 PM PDT   0 recs

Nobody thinks
It's just speculation since it's a trade that fits for both teams.
Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 3:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Fits for the A's, not for the Cubs IMO.
Reminds me of some of the trade rumors you hear out of New York papers.

by stuck in NY on Apr 22, 2005 3:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

sigh
Why not for the Cubs. All they want is closer. Owner Jim Hendry is absolutely desperate for a closer, especially after that cost them the playoffs last year. It fits for them.
Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 4:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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