Kotsay / Harden

by Colorado Fan on Apr 22, 2005 11:29 AM PDT Comment 22 comments

It's THEIR team! THEY are the leaders! Others look to them for toughness, how-to-do-ness. They will dictate how far the 2005 Oakland Athletics take this team this year, as well as for seasons to come...

KOTSAY:

Year AB AVG
1997 52 .192
1998 578 .279
1999 495 .271
2000 530 .298
2001 406 .291
2002 578 .292
2003 482 .266
2004 606 .314

8 Seasons 3727 .287

162 Game Avg 594 .287

HARDEN:

Year IP ER BB SO ERA
2003 74.7 37 40 67 4.26
2004 189.7 171 81 167 3.99

162 Game Avg 199.7 91 91 176 4.12

I really, really, really, really,really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really...

...like the direction this team is going.

Viva Oakland Athletics!!!!

Poll

What is the next step for Billy Beane?

Sign Kotsay to a long-term deal

31 votes

Trade Chavez to the Rockies for Todd Helton + Cash

3 votes

Sign Haren to long term deal (alas, Harden)

11 votes

Trade Dotel

4 votes

Trade Byrnes

5 votes

Trade Dotel, Byrnes, & Scutaro to Cubs for Derrick Lee

15 votes

69 votes | Poll has closed

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The ones that have votes

Are the things that should be done.

P.S. I think in that trade for Derrek Lee, we should get a prospect as well.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

cubs

they still need a 2b right? plus nomar will probably miss the bulk of the season. maybe they would take ginter. he's just rotting on the bench for us...

by xbhaskarx on Apr 22, 2005 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

In the poll it has Scutaro as well. Thats more than enough for Derrek Lee, we shoudl at least get a decent prospect back

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

how long is Lee signed for and

what kind of salary numbers are we looking at?

Can we get Astropitch to sell "Free Dan Johnson" T-Shirts?

by carp on Apr 22, 2005 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

7.6 million this year

8.7 million next year.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Cubs

I really see something happening. We have what they need. Although I see a Byrnes/Dotel/Scoot (either or) for Corey Patterson and a bullpen arm or prospect. I would love to see him in green and gold. I hate perpetuating rumors, but the Cubbies are hurting bad.

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by dboysick on Apr 22, 2005 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

They Love Patterson

And we don't want him either. The guys OBP is horrible. Derrek Lee is the guy we want from the Cubs. Trading Byrnes free's up room for Thomas to get in there.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

it also seems

as if the Cubs have a knack of getting pitchers hurt. Is it there regimen? Should we be leary of a prospect pitcher (if they have one) from the Chubs?

Can we get Astropitch to sell "Free Dan Johnson" T-Shirts?

by carp on Apr 22, 2005 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pitchers

They have a few really good pitching prospects. One of them has already been injured for an extended period, i don't know from what.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why?

Why would the cubs want to trade Lee? With Nomah out pretty much indefinitely, production is going ot be a major problem. They need to address pop in their lineup before they worry about closing games..........

by AlwaysSweatin on Apr 22, 2005 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Before Nomahs and Walkers injuries

I had the idea of Dotel and Maybe hatteberg and a prospect for Derrek Lee. After the injuries i have changed it to Byrnes/Dotel and Scutaro if needed for Derrek Lee and a prospect. Byrnes offsets that sort of, but giving Lee might end up being too much who knows.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lee

I would love to have Lee, he's a great hitter with speed. Plus he had a couple great seasons for me on MVP baseball last year. I just think the Cubs would be leery about parting with him, though they do need middle infield now, and scoot is definitely raising his stock on offense and defense.

by AlwaysSweatin on Apr 22, 2005 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't Kotsay

already signed for another 2-3 years?

by Jeff in Seattle on Apr 22, 2005 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

kotsay:

5.5 mil '05, 5.5 mil '06- a steal really.

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by bigelephant on Apr 22, 2005 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A bargain indeed

And I remember that when he was traded to us most of the people thought that he had a bad contract!

by Ktulu on Apr 22, 2005 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I confess

I did.

"Put a Milo on him."
-Billy Beane

by kaweahkaweah on Apr 22, 2005 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Definitely a bargain

I didn't worry about the contract, but I thought billy was crazy to trade Ramon. Of course i had never even seen Kotsay play...........

by AlwaysSweatin on Apr 22, 2005 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Precisely

I loved Ramone, but I didn't have a man-crush on him.

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by ArakSOT on Apr 22, 2005 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lee not going anywhere

I don't know why everyone thinks the Cubs are trading Derrek Lee. I really don't think it is going to happen. They obviously like the guy and he is not old or overpriced. I think it is wishful thinking in all this trade talk.

by stuck in NY on Apr 22, 2005 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nobody thinks

It's just speculation since it's a trade that fits for both teams.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fits for the A's, not for the Cubs IMO.

Reminds me of some of the trade rumors you hear out of New York papers.

by stuck in NY on Apr 22, 2005 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sigh

Why not for the Cubs. All they want is closer. Owner Jim Hendry is absolutely desperate for a closer, especially after that cost them the playoffs last year. It fits for them.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 22, 2005 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs