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"Wolff's A's will gather no moss"

An interesting column from Sonoma County's Press Democrat: "Wolff knows, right now, exactly what he wants to do with the Oakland A's. It's to move the team to Las Vegas unless the Bay Area trips over itself to keep the team...."

I share his conclusion that if Wolff cannot make an attractive deal for a stadium in the Bay Area, Las Vegas would be an excellent choice for their next home. Personally, since I spend time in both the Bay Area and Vegas, I would be happy either way.

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Wolff's A's will gather no moss
Friday, April 1, 2005

By BOB PADECKY
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT

In Greek mythology Sisyphus is the sinner condemned to an eternity of rolling a boulder uphill, only to have the boulder roll back down every time he reaches the top.

Funny, but I don't see Lewis Wolff, the front man for the new Oakland A's ownership group, lasting that long with his boulder.

His boulder was Charlie Finley's, and Walter Haas', and Steve Schott's and Ken Hofmann's. His boulder, in general, is selling baseball in a non-baseball town, elevating it to an essential item of existence even though no one has done that. In the specific, it's believing a brand-new $300 million stadium is all that the Oakland Athletics need to get off food stamps and live in the high-rise like so many others, even though no one has placed their money alongside that vision.

Is Wolff willing to gamble he's the guy who can make all that happen? Well, Wolff didn't get to be a mega real estate magnate by gambling. He doesn't make it up as he goes along. He doesn't get trapped the way his old fraternity brother, Bud Selig, did a couple of years ago when the teams ran out of players at the All-Star Game and he threw up his hands, confused at what to do next.

Wolff knows, right now, exactly what he wants to do with the Oakland A's. It's to move the team to Las Vegas unless the Bay Area trips over itself to keep the team. It's not to play the fool. It's not to be Schott and Hofmann, whining they are tired of squeezing water out of a rock. Whatever joy the A's achieved by making the playoffs was crushed by Schott and Hofmann claiming they couldn't keep this up much longer.

It's not to be the Haas family, saying they poured millions into the franchise only for good money to turn into a bad investment.

It's not to be Finley who poured maybe a teacup of cash - and complained even that was too much.

Wolff is not likely to engage in such unending melodrama. He will not cry out for public money because he knows there is none, not after the Raider deal soured and closed everyone's pocketbooks in the East Bay. He will not clamor for San Jose unless he - and John Fisher, the money behind the new group - woo Peter Magowan with a $100 million donation to Magowan's favorite ballpark in the name of territorial rights.

Wolff will make himself a moving target, not a stationary punching bag. In the beginning, he won't bring up Las Vegas. He'll push Oakland and a new stadium to be built in the parking lot at the Coliseum. He'll say he has investors to put up the money and all he asks in return is someone help him with a new hotel near the Oakland Airport, so bereft the area is of a four-star hotel. It'll be good for the community, he'll claim. Create more jobs, tourist dollars and tax base.

Wolff will do all that lapel tugging until he's certain the A's, when the tire has to meet the road, do not have a grip on the community. Why build a new stadium to have 6,000 people in it because the A's that year happen to be 10 games under .500.

Wolff will remember those 1992 playoffs against Toronto when the A's failed to sell out a single home game. Wolff will remember that the A's couldn't even meet the Bay Area standard: fans show up only for winners.

Wolff then will decide he's had enough. Peter Gammons, in the latest issue of ESPN The Magazine, predicts it will happen by next winter.

The X Factor in all of this is that the A's have never been on the cusp of relocation. To this point, it's all been conversation. We know mountains can be moved if the moment is white-hot; look at what happened when the Giants almost were sent to Tampa.

So bet on this: Wolff will move quickly. He will make the moment white-hot. He's 69; he doesn't have time to fiddle. He's accomplished. He is not Sisyphus. One way or another, the boulder will be moved.

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Hmmm.
This reporter seems just a TAD presumptious, don't you think?

by tblazrdude on Apr 2, 2005 5:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oakland means mega $$$$$
I get so tired of all the implications that owners don't make money in Oakland .... what a joke.  Schott and Hoffman made a KILLING!!! Why isn't that talked about more?  Probably the most money they've ever made in any investment they've ever considered. An absolute steal, what they paid for the A's, and what they got back in return.
And don't think for a second the Haas' didn't make a killing, either.  
Lewis Wolff will not move the team ... the A's are staying right where they are .... why move the team when you're guaranteed a return of millions and millions on your investment if you stay in Oakland?  
Once again, like I've heard since the '70's ... the sky is falling, the sky is falling!
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Apr 2, 2005 6:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Let's not get carried away
Schott/Hoffman could've invested $85 million in Yahoo! or Bay Area real estate and more than doubled the return they got from the sale of the A's. They did make money, but they didn't make a killing when compared to numerous other investment possibilities.

by vertig0 on Apr 2, 2005 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

a baseball town?
Vegas would be a huge mistake, I think.

The East Bay is much more baseball territory. If it's not New York or Boston, well, neither is any town or area in California that currently has a major league team.

by OaklandSi on Apr 2, 2005 6:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds all too realistic...
...but I am willing to give Wolff a chance.  

Let's hope he gives Oakland a chance.

by Mission1929 on Apr 2, 2005 7:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on this one
I wanna give the new owner a chance and believe what he is telling us. But, and this is a big but, people in his position have been known to go back on their word many times, just look at Art Modell in Cleveland and how he moved the Browns to Baltimore. That was one of the saddest days in sports history.  

It's a business but I'm willing to give Mr. Wolffe a chance on this and take him on his word.

"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball". ~Harry Caray

by sf drift king on Apr 2, 2005 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

how does the writer know:
"Wolff knows, right now, exactly what he wants to do with the Oakland A's. It's to move the team to Las Vegas unless the Bay Area trips over itself to keep the team."

This is in a sense exactly opposite (glass half empty?) of what Wolff has said. If Wolff is being honest, it would be more truthful to say "Wolff is going to trip over himself to find backers to keep the A's in Oakland".  

I find the article you posted highly suspect... where are the corroborating facts to support his opinion?

by Brian in 317 on Apr 2, 2005 7:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Don't Be So Quick, Bob!
   Badecky is a good columnist, whom I read often. But his assumption lacks the consideration of economic factors that play a large role in relocation. First, history has shown that teams don't move from larger media markets to smaller ones. The Bay Area is the largest market behind NY and Chicago. Moreover, attendance for the market has surpassed the other two in the recentt past. The A's jsut don't have the huge TV/radio contracts that the others do. This challenge, I believe, is correctable.
   Las Vegas has too many issues with gambling that has prevented professional franchises from locating there. Baseball, has one albatross around its neck from the steroid issue. If the A's move to Las Vegas, then Pete Rose should be named Commissioner!
   MLB is always concerned about economics. San Jose, despite Magowan's claim can be had for the right price. As I posted yesterday, nothing wrong with a stadium in S. Alameda County near Silicon Valley where it's proximity won't scare away big time investors.
   So let's give Wolff a chance and see what unfolds. I agree he is not going to be gathering moss anytime soon but the possibilties within the Bay Area for relocation have not been exhausted.

by Gerard on Apr 2, 2005 7:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The column
is ludicrous on several fronts.  I put a response to this up on my blog.
"[Your blog is] pretty funny. Although I kinda wanna slap Charlie in the mouth. But I guess that's the point if you're an A's fan :-)" Blez

by Nate on Apr 2, 2005 8:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If you think SBC crowds are not into the game
Wait till you see Vegas crowds. Casino rats and tourists. Yi-pee. :-/

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 2, 2005 8:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

FUCK Vegas
116ยบ HEAT means the A's would have to play in a dome. Las Vegas is a disgusting shit-hole and absolutely devoid of character and soul. I hate the Idea so much it makes me sick.

by kvn on Apr 2, 2005 10:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

NO
I'll always be an A's fan, but I won't go to see them play in Vegas.

by eck767 on Apr 2, 2005 10:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

oakland always 1st
but if oakland falls through i also see vegas as the next best option. in vegas the opportunties are endless...some people in oakland don't want to hear that but its true.

i really hope they stay in oakland. with all the residential building in the downtown core going on wouldn,t it be great to build a 38-35,000 seat stadium like fenway? man, i think that would be great to see.  

"I always like the word bold"- Billy Beane, March 30th, 2005.

by bigelephant on Apr 2, 2005 10:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

MLB won't let a team move to Vegas
becase of the risk of players and manager's betting on their own games.  MLB would likely only approve the move if the Vegas casinos agreed to prohibit gambling on A's games -- as they now probhibit gambling on UNLV games.  It is very unlikely that MLB and casinos will agree -- casinos and the NBA failed to reach an agreement a few years back -- and thus it is very unlikely that a baseball team will move to Vegas.

-nr

by prospero on Apr 2, 2005 12:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wolff
my guess, for what it's worth, is he's gonna get some other developers together and they're gonna buy the real estate around the Coliseum, build a new stadium in the parking lot, a new hotel across the freeway.

the question is where is everybody gonna park after the stadium's built?

by As Man on Apr 2, 2005 9:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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