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Thank the heavens that Rich Harden is signed to a long-term deal.

The kid is just nasty.  And he's learned to pitch himself out of jams well.  As he learns to pitch, he's only going to continue to get better, which is a wonderful thought for us A's fans.  We should start calling him Sawchuk because he's the A's stopper right now (I apologize in advance for the hockey reference for those of you who don't like puck).

And Kiko Calero's presence in the bullpen is about as comforting as any middle reliever since maybe Rick Honeycutt?  Can you think of anyone else as comforting since then?  Yeah, he's going to have a bad outing eventually and it might come from overwork at some point, but the feeling as fan to have him coming out of the pen is like Linus with his security blanket.

On the other hand, and this is getting old and I'm going to stop talking about it after today, but the offense once again made the opposition starting pitcher look like Cy Young, Sandy Koufax and Nolan Ryan all morphed together, a la Conan O'Brien's "If They Mated."

The good news is that the offense has officially bottomed out.  It's last in the major leagues in OPS at .629 and extra base hits with only 18, second to last in batting average, third from last in OBP.  Surprisingly, our boys in green and gold are in the middle of the pack in home runs with 10.  That's a stat many were concerned about before the season started.

So there's no where to go but up from here.  Time to start righting that small sample size, guys.  Bring it back to average by going on a tear.  I don't believe this offense is that bad...and they will eventually break out of this.  It's just odd to have so many bats silent at once.  And against people named Bush, Towers, Nomo and two pitchers who hadn't pitched very well until they got to Oakland (Shrek Colon and Washburn).

Tomorrow we get Slingblade Lackey (mmmmm, HMMMM).  Let's go Oakland!!!

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Nice Blez
Tearing a page from 'The Sports Guy' and working in the pop cultural references/links. Another great post.
Can't wait till tomorrow's game!

by tblazrdude on Apr 16, 2005 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I sure like them French Fried 'taters.
mmmmmHMMM
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!" -Brick Tamland, Anchorman

by secret ASian man on Apr 16, 2005 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

could i have some mustard with them taters?
Alaska-A, Number-one-A's-fan-in-southern-southeast-Alaska.

by ak_A on Apr 16, 2005 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmmmm......
...as others have pointed out, at least Carl can close his damn mouth all the way.

by Mission1929 on Apr 16, 2005 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Mike Scioscia blaming umps for loss?
From sports.yahoo.com/mlb, click on the A's story...

"...Los Angeles manager Mike Scioscia, who thought Scutaro might have been in Shields' way while fielding the decisive bunt."

C'mon! Scioscia is always the first to whine when things don't go his way. I watched the replay a hundred times, and Shields was nowhere near Scoot. Shields just plain made a bad throw, and Figgins made an even worse attempt (or lack thereof) of catching the throw. Eat it, Mike. It was fair and clean.

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

The offense is offensive
Somebody needs to figure out that Kielty is dead wood. Why waste a roster spot??? Multiply what he contributed last year by what he has done this year and you still get 0. But then as Blez sez a lot of people suspected the O to be OHHHH:(

by bayfrank on Apr 16, 2005 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

You're preaching to the choir
He's 0-for the entire season.

Small sample size be damned.

"I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!" -Brick Tamland, Anchorman

by secret ASian man on Apr 16, 2005 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

sm*ll s*mple s*ize
Keilty has identical numbers to Magglio Ordonez

by green star oakland on Apr 16, 2005 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mags
I think he's overrated.  His knees are degenerating.
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!" -Brick Tamland, Anchorman

by secret ASian man on Apr 16, 2005 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's on the DL again
This time out for surgery on a herniated disk.

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maglio
It's surgery for a hernia, not a herniated disk.  Much different, ahem, area of the body.

by IndianaAsfan on Apr 16, 2005 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Offense
It will only get better.  I don't think it can be any worse than it has been so far this season.

As for Rich, he's a STUD!  It's a joy watching him pitch.

GO A's!!!

by AsGirl on Apr 16, 2005 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

nowhere to go but up?
I guess it's my duty as a fan to act like that makes some kind of sense...

by matthias on Apr 16, 2005 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, they're worst in MLB
So, they have no where to go in the statistical standings, but up.  I guess they could stay last in a lot these categories, but I doubt it.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 16, 2005 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

keep the faith
We're near the top in WHIP AND our record is better than the flipping yankees. life is sweet...

by anahola fan on Apr 17, 2005 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think today's game BECAME big
by the end, because it was about not wasting back to back starting gems, as well as not starting out 0-2 vs. the Angels, 1-4 at home, and 4-7 overall.

Pulling it out was like, well...a nice kick-save from a hockey goalie?

Nico

by Nico on Apr 16, 2005 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank God for the Canadian
Harden is awesome. I like the hockey references Blez but can you please give us our 5th win (and the Angels their 5th loss) in the Standings.

by Larry E on Apr 16, 2005 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Lowest ERA, Fewest Runs Scored
The A's now have the distinction of having the lowest team ERA in the American League, at 3.40, and the fewest number of runs scored, at 37. I can't imagine any team has kept that up for a whole season...If this keeps going maybe Billy Beane should reallocate some of the salaries from the batters to the pitching staff.

by SA on Apr 16, 2005 6:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Observations from the left field bleachers
Man, what a beautiful day at the park. 25K isn't such a great crowd considering the weather, the opposition, and who we had on the mound, but they'll probably do better for tomorrow's bobblehead give-away. Personally, I've never wanted one of those badly enough to wait in the long lines. Today's giveaway was a calendar, with action photos of our young and not-so-young players, and everyone's favorite manager, and insets of them with pets (it is sponsored by a pet supplies company, but the only advertising is a small logo at the bottom of each page). Unlike last year's, the dates on this one include the scheduled games, promotions, player birthdays, and "on this day" bits of A's trivia. Pretty nice. Anyway, about the game:

-I love this kind of game. There's nothing like a great pitchers' duel, especially if you squint enough to convince yourself that the guy on the other end of it is someone good. At some point we're going to need one of those things that most other teams have called an offense, but for today the fact that one mistake would have cost the game just made Harden's dominating performance that much more exciting. And he made it seem easy. Even on the two occasions when the Angels got a runner to third, I had the feeling "oh well, no big deal, he'll get the next guy." And he did. And of course Calero was great too.

-I try to stay consistent with my opinions about certain players for as long as I can, but at some point reality is just too darn real. I've been saying, and believing, for months that Bobby Kielty was a decent player who just had a bad year, but at this point I'm off that bandwagon. (Remember to turn out the lights when you leave, ohad). In his first at bat he had an opposite field shot that went just foul, but after that, nada. Caught looking twice, and then swinging for the hat trick. Ugh. I don't know what happened to the player who put up good numbers for Minnesota a couple of years ago, but I suspect if he's ever going to show up again it's going to take a change of scenery. Maybe Sacramento. Maybe Tampa. Just not the middle of the A's batting order please.

-Byrnes was one of only a couple hitters (along with Kendall) who looked good against the left-handed Washburn, and showed nice hustle turning one of his singles into a double. So I'll only rag on his defense a little bit. In the fifth (I think) Izturis went from 1st to 3rd easily on a single to shallow left. Byrnes had the play right in front of him, but between his late break on the ball and his weak arm, he wasn't even close to making a play, and Izturis never hesitated. That's some pretty serious lack of respect, and deservedly so.

-Kotsay, on the other hand, just makes everything seem so effortless out there. It's as if he moves one or two steps, and then wills the ball to come to right where he's standing.

-Chavez needs to pick it up. And, although I love the A's patient approach, I don't think you can afford to take close 3-2 pitches with Bobby Kielty hitting behind you.

-Nice to see Durazo come in and get a hit when we needed one badly. Hatteberg had a very nice at-bat to follow it up - after getting two strikes early he took two very close pitches that were called balls and fouled off a few others - even though it ultimately ended in a double play. I thought Macha might have avoided the DP by using Thomas as a pinch-runner and trying a steal or hit-and-run, but if it didn't work and the game had gone longer, ending up with your best defensive outfielder in the DH slot would not have looked very smart, so I can't object too much. And Durazo isn't as slow as some people think anyway.

-Swisher has been only mediocre at the plate, but despite that, and the fact the he's been hitting low in the order, his hits seem to be coming at the right time - he leads the team in homers, RBIs, and managed to score the winning run today. I hope he's convinced the doubters that he belongs in the majors.

-The A's beating the Angels 1-0 on a bunt is irony at it's very finest.

by andeux on Apr 16, 2005 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

hey
wat section in lf were u in?
Lets go Oakland!

by bballfanr33 on Apr 16, 2005 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

section
137 I think. 3rd row.

by andeux on Apr 16, 2005 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

some really good, and fair, analysis andeux
Especially your point about Chavy taking a close 3-2 pitch with Kielty on deck. Plate discipline is great, but there are times to protect--and even expand--the strike zone. This was one of them.

I'm also glad you appreciated Hatte's AB--you can't control where the ball goes (well, maybe Ichiro can), so the result is less relevant than the approach.

On Byrnes' play, though, Izturis had been running with the pitch--that's why he coasted to 3rd. I was actually relieved that Byrnes didn't fire a wild throw to 3rd over the cut-off man (and into the dugout); that's what I was worried about; I'll take the lob into 2nd any day!

Nico

by Nico on Apr 16, 2005 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the comments
I don't get to see games, and was interested in what you said about the ab's.  the box scores don't tell me if a guy had a good ab or not, just what the end result was.  I know that Thomas has not had a hit yet this year but don't know if he is having any good ab's or just overmatched.  Clearly we have a major problem right now with the offense, the only question is are we going on life support or will someone start hitting?  The team is wasting some very good pitching.

by china bob on Apr 16, 2005 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rag Am Byrnes
"In the fifth (I think) Izturis went from 1st to 3rd easily on a single to shallow left. Byrnes had the play right in front of him, but between his late break on the ball and his weak arm, he wasn't even close to making a play, and Izturis never hesitated. That's some pretty serious lack of respect, and deservedly so."

I won't defend Byrnes throwing ability, but in his defense on this particular play Izturis had been running on the pitch.  I don't think anyone would have made a play on him at third.

"The bigger the game, the better he pitched."

by Catfish27 on Apr 16, 2005 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhhrrrrggg
And Kiko Calero's presence in the bullpen is about as comforting as any middle reliever since maybe Rick Honeycutt...Yeah, he's going to have a bad outing eventually ~ Blez

And when he does, I'll be right there demanding his benching and/or trade!!!  And then I'll pine for Mulder while criticizing Beane.

[/sarcasm]

How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb-thrower

by LowcountryJoe on Apr 16, 2005 7:02 PM PDT reply actions  

sciosca and the umps
if he wants to complain he can easily point to that wandering strike zone that even my thick glasses could spot from the RF bleachers.  

dang what a game though!  i've only missed one game so far, it's amazing how many more games you can go to when you don't buy beer in the stadium!

los angelheim whoevers of the wherenows?

by JMC @ Athletics Nation on Apr 16, 2005 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Blew that one-liner...
Where did that "be" come from? Gotta stop rephrasing my posts and just go with the flaw. I meant flow of course.

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily
Note that JMC only said "when you don't buy beer in the stadium".

Bring your own (decanted into a big plastic juice jug - apple looks closest) and you've got a 6-pack for the price of a single cup bought inside.

At least so I've heard tell ...

by green star oakland on Apr 16, 2005 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would a few of drops of...
..red dye go pretty far when smuggling in the non-darks?
How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb-thrower

by LowcountryJoe on Apr 16, 2005 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

beer = too many trough visits
i prefer the JD half pint in the waist.  then i buy a sovenier soda.  usually lasts all 9 innings. but only at night games.  sun + liquor = in bed by 7:30 PM.
los angelheim whoevers of the wherenows?

by JMC @ Athletics Nation on Apr 16, 2005 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gustavo Chacin
Remember The Insect? Well, it wasn't just us who couldn't hit him. He's currently in the 8th inning, 2-hitting the Texas Rangers, in Texas.

And oh, some other news that longtime ANers might find interesting: Jason Grabowski just hit an RBI double for the Dodgers. Nice to see him still contributing in the big leagues.

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I wear my sunglasses at night
Since you've mentioned Chacin, does anyone have any idea why he was wearing sunglasses at night while pitching?  They showed him sitting on the bench the next night and he was wearing his sunglasses then, too.

I thought it a bit odd.

"The bigger the game, the better he pitched."

by Catfish27 on Apr 16, 2005 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

shades
maybe it's because his future's so bright.

by andeux on Apr 16, 2005 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually
to be fair, they weren't sunglasses.  They were regular glasses, but under the shade of his cap bill, they looked like shades.  He still looks like the Fly, though.

by kent1 on Apr 17, 2005 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
They're actual glasses, but with a slight tint to them.

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 17, 2005 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting
The way they were styled, I thought they were wrap-around sunglasses
"The bigger the game, the better he pitched."

by Catfish27 on Apr 17, 2005 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chacin actually shut down
Texas last night in Texas.  So maybe it wasn't just our bats.  Maybe The Fly is just that good.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 17, 2005 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

which does suggest,
that our last 3-4 offensive shut-downs have had a lot to do with good pitchers pitching well. A lot, not all. Time for Ruby to get going, and not just because I've inserted him into my fantasy lineup. But that does reflect that I have a feeling...
Nico

by Nico on Apr 17, 2005 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way, Blez,
wondering your opinion on this. I was surprised that they didn't start Haren (on regular rest) today and Saarloos tomorrow, because not only would it have gotten Haren the two starts vs Angels but it would have meant another start for him at home instead of a start at Texas--not ideal. And the A's usually like to keep their guys on "every 5th day" turn; the 5th starter is the one who usually has to be flexible on that to keep 1-4 on turn as much as possible. Any idea why Saarloos/Haren instead of Haren/Saarloos today and tomorrow?
Nico

by Nico on Apr 17, 2005 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not Blez,
but I have an opinion on it. I agree that Haren should be going today. However, Macha said something about Haren throwing a lot of pitches in his last start and that he didn't want to wear his pitchers out this early in the season, so he decided to give Haren an extra day of rest.

by kent @ Athletics Nation on Apr 17, 2005 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I had to guess
it's because Saarloos is a sinkerball pitcher.  They tend to pitch better when their arms aren't too strong.  You give Los Kirk the extra day off, and perhaps he comes back and his pitches are up in the zone and he gets rocked.

Haren's more of a splitter, change, fastball guy.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 17, 2005 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

good points, kent/Blez
I was wondering if pitch count had something to do with it (I think Haren was at 114 last start). Also, in the "young pitcher going in Texas" analysis, one can argue that Saarloos is a "young pitcher" too. Fortunately, we're only there for 36 hours.

Anyway, it's far too early, IMO, to worry about matchups, so if they want Haren to get an extra day of rest I have no problem with that.

Nico

by Nico on Apr 17, 2005 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

could it also be that
Saarloos matched up well against the Angels during Spring Training? Although we all know many players don't really show their stuff til the games count.

by OaklandSi on Apr 17, 2005 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fly boy
IS actually a good pitcher. Last year vs the potent yankees lineup:

7ip 4H 1R 1BB 7 SO.

Last year in AA: 16-2 with a 2.86, 14-0 with a 1.86 ERA in his last 16 starts.

Last year in AAA: 2-0 with a 2.31 ERA

He doesn't K anybody because he doesn't have great (as in Rich Harden stuff) stuff. He has a cutter, fastball (various versions) and a curveball. He's very deceptive and has impeccable command (3 BB's in 14 innings this year, and last year in the minors 2.71 BB's per 9 innings). He won't blow one by you, but he WILL fool the shit out of you.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 17, 2005 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

A's fans are awesome.
A nice treat after a crazy win: http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_leftfield.jsp?ymd=20050416&content_id=1 018205&vkey=leftfield&fext=.jsp

It's about the the signs hanging in left field...and the great relationship between the fans and players.

Enjoy.

by Sharon on Apr 16, 2005 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I enjoyed that.
I noticed the "Street Thugs" sign and loved it! "Ellis D" made me giggle for ten minutes.

I would also like to say that I want us to have shirts like Batgirl's.

Granted if I would wear a "Huston Steet is my boyfriend" shirt people would just look at me like yeah, right. And then it wouldn't be funny, just sad. :)

by Jennifer on Apr 16, 2005 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

um
I would have to have multiple shirts.

by Sharon on Apr 16, 2005 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, me too....
but there's seven days a week!

Huston...
Harden...
Kotsay...
Scutaro...
Hudson...
Swisher...
Chavez...

by Jennifer on Apr 16, 2005 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I HAD to choose...
I'd probably take Swisher.

No, Kotsay.

No, Swisher.

No...this is difficult.

by Sharon on Apr 16, 2005 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

AH!
I forgot Billy Beane!

by Jennifer on Apr 16, 2005 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

well
that goes without saying

by Sharon on Apr 16, 2005 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

give me
swisher any time
Living in the mitten is second best to being Canadian...

Lets go GVSU!

by Alisa on Apr 17, 2005 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want a
"I have a non-sexual man-crush on Mark Kotsay" t-shirt. Though I'm thinking people might just look at me funny and not really believe the "non-sexual" part.

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a shame she thought of it first...
now we'd just be taking her ideas. I have to start thinking up my own shirt sayings.

by Jennifer on Apr 16, 2005 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suggestion
"If Bobby Kielty Plays For The A's So Can I"

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

funny
My crush on Kotsay is non-sexual also.

I'm serious.

by Sharon on Apr 16, 2005 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about
"I have a non-sexual man-crush on Mark Kotsay, but I have a very sexual one on his wife"

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

well
You might piss off the the object of your man-crush.

by Sharon on Apr 16, 2005 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
He'd get jealous. He'd probably want to be my only crush.

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes
That's exactly what I meant.

:)

by Sharon on Apr 16, 2005 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or He Might Crush You
Kotsay looks like a tough dude.

by Eck on Apr 16, 2005 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
I'm getting all teary-eyed... sniff sniff... And I hope everybody who's bashed the "Fear Mecir" sign is ashamed of themselves after reading that closing line.

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're getting all teary eyed
and yet you still want us to believe that your crush on Mark Kotsay is non-sexual?

Fabulous.

Nico

by Nico on Apr 16, 2005 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly
That and me screaming his name, taking pictures of him and toting my Mark Kotsay handbag...

by OaktownTribesman on Apr 16, 2005 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kielty!!!!
what to do - what to do?

by kvn on Apr 16, 2005 9:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Any legnths
Copped out of g/f commitment by "having to go to work" which I did but watched the mlb feed while there and enjoyed every minute of it. (are you seeing someone else? yes, 9 guys.)
Alaska-A, Number-one-A's-fan-in-southern-southeast-Alaska.

by ak_A on Apr 16, 2005 9:18 PM PDT reply actions  

not only were you seeing 9 guys,
but two of them were switch-hitters.
Nico

by Nico on Apr 16, 2005 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah
but most of them won't even go to first base

by andeux on Apr 16, 2005 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
pretty safe you won't get hit a home run too!
Alaska-A, Number-one-A's-fan-in-southern-southeast-Alaska.

by ak_A on Apr 16, 2005 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

just watch out
for any backdoor sliders.
Nico

by Nico on Apr 16, 2005 10:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Mmmm....
Sliders.....

Slider sure are awesome, and good to eat.

"I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!" -Brick Tamland, Anchorman

by secret ASian man on Apr 16, 2005 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES
I hope this is a sign of things to come as far as pitching is concerned. What great starts back-to-back for Zito and Harden

by WhatElse on Apr 16, 2005 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Rebuttal to Andeux
This is a rebuttal to your statement "he shouldn't be taking 3-2 pitches like that with Bobby Kielty behind him. He should expand the K zone"

I said this in the other thread and i'll say it here: He wasn't expecting the fastball.

The whole webcast i herad from Korach how Chavez has struggled with breaking balls this year because he doesn't see many during sprign training. Every year he has an adjustment period at the beginning. It's a 3-1 count, Chavvy swings and misses on a breaking ball. He knows the Angels know he has struggled with it (as evidenced by his other at bats) and he is expecting another one in a three two count. But he gets a fastball. In that situation, all you can do is take and hope it's a ball. If he's expecting fastball, he swings at that guarenteed. But since it's not what he thinks (he's in the mindset of a slower pitch) it surprises him. His reaction time is slower, and he doesnt want to swing at a ball. So he lets it go. It was a ball, but called a strike anyways. There was nothign he could do.

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 17, 2005 4:14 AM PDT reply actions  

rebuttal to rebuttal
A hitter doesn't have to look for a pitch. On a 3-1 count, it makes good sense to look for a pitch or in a certain zone. With 2 strikes, it can backfire.

I think andeux's main point is that this was a time to err on the side of aggressive, not to show good plate discipline and leave it to the next guy.

It's kind of like beating out a bunt with a runner at second and two out. Nice bunt, but...

Nico

by Nico on Apr 17, 2005 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

He wasn't trying to show good plate discipline
Thats the point. He just wasn't expecting a pitch.
Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 17, 2005 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Chavy wasn't expecting a pitch,
that's a real shame, because that's what the pitcher was almost guaranteed to throw.
Nico

by Nico on Apr 17, 2005 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had to look twice to understand...
.... lol.

A= (should be) that

Kielty, rejuvenated by his new genetically created St.Pats Day/Oktoberfest, shows us why Billy and Ohad are geniuses.

by ohad on Apr 17, 2005 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

disagree
You almost never ever ever look breaking ball on 3-2.  Period.  3-2 you expand the zone and hit anything in the zone.  I'm 100% positive that Chavez would not say he was "looking curve."

He might say it was in the back of his mind or something but I just want to emphasize how rare it is to look curve on 3-2.

Remember the gamea few years ago when Giambi hit either a HR or a double against stanton to win a game in oakland?  He looked curve on 3-2.  My point is that afterwards he said "Yeah, you're not supposed to do that so it was a pretty balsy thing for me to do (look for a curve on 3-2)."  When you do it, it is an unusual, notable occurence.

Chavez merely thought the pitch was a ball; which replays showed it was...

by dude on Apr 17, 2005 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

My buddy and I
are making some San Francisco Athletics of Oakland shirts.

by tblazrdude on Apr 17, 2005 6:17 AM PDT reply actions  

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