Does Miggy hate Ramon H.?

by hedgehog on Dec 9, 2005 8:59 AM PST Comment 16 comments

I don't understand why Tejeda is ripping the Orioles right now. It's not like they didn't spend any money--himself, Lopze (2003), Sosa and Palmerio (2004). Just because they didn't spend 100 million last week? That's no reason. With Hernandez and their young pitching, the O's are certainly better now than two years ago, when Miggy first signed.

This has led some people to speculate that there are problems between him and Hernandez. Any ANer know about this, which would be news to me?

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I haven't heard of any.

I can't remember a bad word about Ramon while he was in the clubhouse here.

Does anyone know the precise timing of when Miggy's comments were released compared to the Ramon signing?

I mean, I'm inclined to believe there's no connection between the two things at all -- though I'm actually a bit intrigued by the theory that's been tossed that the trigger was really pulled on the Ramon deal to try and appease Miggy.

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by Kyli on Dec 9, 2005 9:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think

his comments may have came before Ramon was signed.

by RunRickeyRun on Dec 9, 2005 9:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think...

He looks at Ramon about the same as Javey Lopez, aren't they similar (when healthy), despite the age difference. Is that really what they need right now?

They lost their closer, have young starting pitching (including a guy who can't break 75 on the radar gun), and nothing noteworthy in the pen (Hawkins?????). Seriously I mean, talk about spending 28MM on something that should not be on the top of the list right now...

It's like having a family of 6, and buying a Porsche.

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by rook on Dec 9, 2005 9:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Lopez is still

a bit better with the bat - though that gap as closed significantly as Lopez has aged. Hernandez is a much better defensive catcher, though.

Lopez will just become the backup catcher and primary 1b/DH in the 130 or so games he's not catching. It's not redundent. If they have real reason to believe that the reduced workload will allow Lopez to bounce back to his 2004, 1997-99 performance level (assuming 2003 was a fluke) this becomes a pretty darned good offensive move.

Hawkins is a heck of a lot better than folks give him credit for. He just got unfair levels of bad press when he was struggling. Even the idea that he doesn't have the cajones to close lacks much real evidence.

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by devo on Dec 9, 2005 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Devo..

So Lopez is on the block. So that removes that idea. (They think they can swing him for pitching because there are teams out there that need catching, Houston, AZ etc)

Ramon is a defensive upgrade? Seriously? Any stats that show that? I watched a few Pads games over the last two years, and he is not a defensive upgrade over Sal Fasano. Granted he may put the signals down clearer, his rep for game calling may be misleading as it appears that (at SD) the bench was calling most of the games.

My point about Hawkins, was not meant to bash him, but to point out he is about the only name out there. Last checked, they lost Ryan and Kline and have...Hawkins, and AAAA'ers.

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by rook on Dec 9, 2005 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

seeing as to how there is

now a vacancy at 1b in baltimore.

vote mcbronsh for most disliked AN'er.

by mcbronsh on Dec 9, 2005 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

But...

They are looking at an Erstad for Lopez swap. Personally that would make my day. Love to see the grinder go out of division

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by rook on Dec 9, 2005 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

he realizes that those idiots need pitching

And they continue to ignore the problem

Why don't they just lick their fingers?

by novaoakland on Dec 9, 2005 9:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

It Starts now

BRING MIGGY BACK TO THE GREEN AND GOLD! (starts postitive mojo)

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by franzy on Dec 9, 2005 9:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

It might be after the Hernandez signing.

The AP news report on Tejada's unhappieness showed up at 9:24PM. The AP reported on Hernandez's signing at 5:21PM.

by hedgehog on Dec 9, 2005 11:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

eh ...

that doesn't necessarily mean anything and, even if it did happen later, it's very possible that Tejada had not yet heard about the signing.

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by devo on Dec 9, 2005 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Is Miggy regretful?

I am reading between the lines and considering that Miggy may have been venting to a reporter down in the D.R. and that he is now embarrassed that his comments are plastered everywhere on Sports front pages. I bet he wishes he kept his mouth closed. Who knows, but if Javy Lopez is really on the block, Billy should call.

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by Dig the Long Ball on Dec 9, 2005 12:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Seriously--

We have all kinds of pitching, from starters (Saarloos) to lefties (Kennedy) to "great arms" (Cruz and Jairo). Right now, Billy Beane can open his trenchcoat and show teams all makes and models of pitchers available for trade. And Javy Lopez would make our lineup mucho more el grande good.

Nico

by Nico on Dec 9, 2005 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Huh??

First off, I think it pretty clear that Tejada's comments occurred before the Hernandez signing-- for all we know, they came at least 24 hours before.

I don't understand why we would pursue Lopez-- Kendall is not particularly dumpable. We've made that bed. At 35, Lopez is going to be overvalued compared to his likely performance over the next few years. Let the Angels pay to get him.

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by oaktoon on Dec 9, 2005 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I was referring to DH,

and the Thomas signing, if it happens, might change the need. I looked up Lopez' career stats and his vs. LHP/vs. RHP splits are remarkable--.290/.288 AVG with OBPs also nearly identical. Also incredibly consistent career splits by month.

The one thing that would concern me is he had such a bizarre power surge and then returned to prior levels, and while I personally don't choose to speculate or suspect on steroid use I can't help but wonder in his case. His age wouldn't deter me, because the alternative (Thomas) is older and recently more injured.

Nico

by Nico on Dec 9, 2005 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know how easy it is

to set up an interview with a professional baseball player kicking back at home; but it seems to be a stretch to think that Ramon got signed, then a reporter in the D.R. was able to A) Schedule an interview with Tejada B) Have an interview with Tejada C) Publish the interview from Tejada...

All in the span of 4 hours.

I think the outburst in coincidental to the Ramon signing.

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by grover on Dec 10, 2005 12:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs