Blez sold out, nothing else to it.
I am sure all those people that were nice enough to give Blez and interview knew that he would try and parlay that into a money making scheme they might have said no.
Billy, Paul, and all the rest gave Blez the interview thinking how great it is a fan sight is doing this.
Noe Blez tried to make money of their kindness?
I know what you're think that its only a design and he wont help.
The thats a bad buisiness move because who would want just a design unless Blez was spending time to maintain that which will take away from his A's page
Blez did nothing but sell out. Now everyteam will have a An type blog which hurts the feel of it plus makes it no better than MLB.com
Blez you had something really special but you had to give into money
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worthless
second, you can start your own A's blog. for free.
if the people that blez has interviewed are upset, they probably wouldn't allow themselves to be interviewed by him again. maybe if you created an alternative non-sellout blog they'd give you the interview instead.
you've done nothing on this site except attack blez, which is getting a little suspicious.
instead of being jealous, go do something worthwhile...
I hope this is...
by JCase on Jan 24, 2005 12:25 AM PST reply actions
I liked this blog
What is sad is JCase thinkiing that if you dont like whats going on or if you disagree with Blez you are a giants fan or something
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 12:33 AM PST reply actions
ok
if that's the case, how come you only started posting today, and every single post has been you attacking blez?
New screen name
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
this dude...
Thank you for being bold
But AN has always been special like having the newest coolest shoes on the block. Soon everyone will have those shoes so whats special anymore.
I think all true A's fans know how much joy the A's give them seeing them win and do well. AN waqs a part of that but now it will be filled ina sea of clones and It isnt unique and special anymore.
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 12:39 AM PST reply actions
xbhaskarx
i appreciate it
but to respond to you: if blez is trying to start a business to make some money, what's the big deal? notice he's not charging you to read this site, be a member, post messages, etc. if he did, that would still be a legitimate enterprise, but at least your opposition would make sense then since it would have an effect on you.
You are a fool
Learn to accept the opinions of people yyou disagree with.
Blez has not inproved AN in a year. Aside from the interviews its the same old sight. Sell the design fine, but he better give A's fans a whole lot more
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
Bingo
I have my own blog on blogger and my template is just a generic blogger template of which I put some A's logos on. So what makes my blog different from all the others of the same template. Two things, A's logos and my opinions. My posts is what makes my blog unique. What happens here is what makes AN unique. Grant and Redsfan and Cubbieguy can do all they want with the AN/Daily Kos template and it will not be the same.
by secret ASian man on Jan 24, 2005 1:02 AM PST up reply actions
Ok
I hope Blez has some ways to make An special again because this is turninginto when MLB.copm had teams run their own sites and they switched over to all team site clones
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
Dude
And I asked Tyler to help me out, since he's obviously good at what he does.
You don't like it, it's a big blogosphere out there. Go somewhere else. But your whining is getting old.
Hmm
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
No One Knows...
I come to this site because I enjoy Blez's writing, the interest he has drawn from Beane, Schlusser, Urban, and others...and I enjoy the comraderie and banter of most of the people who post here.
Who cares about anything else? I'm sorry you're offended by whatever it is you're talking about, but your recourse is simple - you don't have to read or participate in this blog if you don't want to.
by LD on Jan 24, 2005 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
ok
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Good enough
What I'm seeing here is that you can't handle anybody else's opinion, hence your Chicken Little act.
If anyone dare disagree with you or respond to you, you cry censorship.
Your opinion is duly noted. And it's been rejected by most. Now you have the choice of either accepting it, or moving on to another site.
Its ok
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
All Talk, No Action.
I for one won't be browsing your way..I'm quite content right here.
by LD on Jan 24, 2005 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Copyrights
There's a term for that. Its called copyright infringement and is usually the province of lazy, dull, and unimaginative people.
I might even consider representing Kos/Blez pro bono.
Marc
by Zepp on Jan 24, 2005 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
the problem is...
by Cutthemullet on Jan 24, 2005 1:23 AM PST up reply actions
Bwa?
Are you joking?
Aside from that obvious mistake, I have no idea what the heck you people are talking about. Whoever owns the code can do what they want with it. The idea that my enjoyment of AN might somehow suffer because someone in Maryland is enjoying Camden Camp, or someone in Chicago is liking the Clark Street Cubhouse is ludicrous.
If AN is fun, it's fun because of the people there. The code and layout of the website facilitates what's naturally enjoyable, a discussion of Oakland A's baseball.
Reconnect with reality people. By the looks of things, McCovey Chronicles has been up about two weeks. Did anything here actually change for you in the last two weeks? Of course not.
Blez kept it from us
-Opps It was a surprise, I guess you found me out.-
Blez has always alluded to new things but this he never did, why? because he knew if he asked us we wouldnt like it
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 1:42 AM PST up reply actions
The thing Blez was alluding to...
by secret ASian man on Jan 24, 2005 1:46 AM PST up reply actions
I know
This buisness venture he never did which seems shady
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 1:48 AM PST up reply actions
Well you don't like it.
Message boards for all thirty teams exist. There are blogs-slash-boards for probably most of those. That the guy who did ours is gonna try to expand his thing to other boards and make some money offer it doesn't affect me in the slightest.
This place is still here, and it's still not costing me a cent to read or post to this site.
As always, the only downside of AN continues to be that it's as easy for complete knuckleheads to do the same.
Ok
But its hypocritical of you to judge me on my opinion
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 1:58 AM PST up reply actions
no other team had one...
earlier in another diary I compared it to an indie rock band selling out and signing with a major label (another thing I'm philosophically opposed to...I will be even if everyone else is against me and even if my allies were frauds), but it might be more comparable to Doyle Brunson's decision to publish the Super System, his poker bible, in the seventies, a decision he has regretted ever since (because it allowed others to catch up at his expense) but is so inextricably tied to that he will release the sequel in February. Now I have indirectly benefited from his decision, because of the chain reaction popularizing poker that continues to this day, but if I were him I would have never thought about threatening the intimate secret-society atmosphere of his day that became extinct the second the book was published. In hindsight, that's pretty much how he feels.
as we see, sometimes people are too myopic to consider all the ramifications of their decisions, and they regret them later...
Call me naive, but for me it's about more than just, "well, as long as I don't have to pay, I don't give a damn".
that's all I'm going to post on this topic, I've made my case
by Cutthemullet on Jan 24, 2005 6:16 AM PST up reply actions
Does everyone forget
The possessiveness ofthose claiming cyber savy amazes me.
by PhillyAs on Jan 24, 2005 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
check out...
by Cutthemullet on Jan 24, 2005 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
Every other team will have their own AN
Sounds odd but I could always say to a Giants fan "hey look at AN and see what quality of fans we have, look at the interviews and insight"
I see the book Moneyball as incredibly special, other teams have books but no one has the inside view and a book that changed the game liek Moneyball did.
AN seemed special too me to a team that is underappriciated it showed how the people liek Beane knew we existed.
It just will show Sabean, Cashman and others will do the same thing and AN loses what was special about it
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
cashman
To these4thingsiknowaretru (and anyone who agrees)
Unless, Blez sells grover and ohad, there can be no reason to think anybody sold out. Are you saying that he's not allowed to profit from AN? If AN was unique to you because of the layout, then I'm sorry but you were never a real part of the AN community in the first place.
I thought you were a troll at first. Maybe you're a giants fan laughing your ass off now. If you are, more power to you. You've succeeding in irritating the hell out of AN. But if you are an A's fan, the content here is not going to change. There's no way any other baseball blogger can get the access to their favorite GM like Blez can regardless of what blog software they use.
You seriously don't make any sense man. Even if you are a troll, there may be other people who might feel betrayed like you claim you. Think about why you come to this site. If the uniqueness of the blog layout was that important to you, then feel betrayed. Say that Blez sold out. Find another blog site to post your opinions. And leave. You won't be missed.
by davebenfremont on Jan 24, 2005 1:58 AM PST up reply actions
Ok
And yes I started reading AN from the start in HUGE part to the design. Many other fan blogs are cluttered and hard to navigate. This one was clean, crisp, interesting, thats why I read it.
" There's no way any other baseball blogger can get the access to their favorite GM like Blez can"
Why not? What makes you think billy is the only GM that will interview with fans? Billy didnt do these interviews till a legitimate web blog came to place. Once other teams come up other Gms will speak out too. Plus Curt Schilling posts on the "Son of Sam" fanpage. If you have a few Boston fans that can do what Blez does imagine Curt, Foulke, Mueller and people giving interviews. If the players in places like Boston and NY have a great fan page they can talk in and know they will not have the media pull sounbytes from they will be huge
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 2:10 AM PST up reply actions
AN is good
i'm going to go out on a limb here...
Shut yo mouth
This is a new screen name since I have a new e-mail. But its funny that a person has to have his name registered for his opinion to be validated by the all mighty god who is you.
Im an A's fan and thats all I need to be to have an opinion on A's related items
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 2:52 AM PST up reply actions
A's related items ...
What does this have to do with anything?
Blez is not the A's - Blez is an A's fan, like most people here.
What Blez does in his free time, or to make money, is up to him and has NOTHING to do with you, me, or anybody else ('cept said boss, parents, wife and daughter) and is definately not A's related.
Blez gives us a totally free ride on here, sharing his interviews with us, putting alot of free time in it - he can take it all away and there is nothing we can do about it, so let's be grateful for what we have.
As an aside, did you know that this blog was 'created' by Kos? Who used his own blog as a basis? Should the users of Kos' site be up in arms because AN ripped him off? Or maybe they should mind their own business.
Best Regards,
TK
by Tom @ Athletics Nation on Jan 24, 2005 4:21 AM PST up reply actions
Blez sold out
An started long before the format you see before you, but I bet you didnt know that.
Kos is a political site and AN is baseball related.
And I find it hypocritical you tell me I shouldnt care what he does yet you care what I think and try to dictate how I should think and care.
Blez is taking the interviews, and such that fans thought were great and tries to parlay that into money. He is giving away a special part of what makes the A's and that is fan understanding.
Blez says his dream is to write about the A's but he becomes a site designer and says he if going for his dream? BS
The A's have very few special thinks while we live in the shadow of the Giants, Moneyball and AN.
If you think I shouldnt care think that but I do care, I do
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 4:31 AM PST reply actions
Can you explain to me
Blez is taking his site design, and selling it to other people since he is so succesful. I guess we should all go tell Bill Gates to go fuck himself because he made this program called Windows and he sold it to everybody else, and now he's a billionare sellout. Your ideas are flawed man Blez isn't selling AN, hes selling a site design. Oh by the way why does it matter if it Giants? There are 29 other ones, even the Devil Rays will have one, but you aren't mad about that.
Foolish
Any idiot can make a site look like this, why would anyone buy this when I can make it in 5 minutes. He is sellign support, format, ideas, and help.
The interviews and such made this sight popular and in turn makes people want to have a site like this. If you take away all the interviews all you have is design and diaryies, and everyone has that.
Its the interviews which show that he has a product to sell. But of course blez doesnt care about keeping An special to the A's he cause only about money
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 4:52 AM PST reply actions
Another Reason I think he sold out
My point is I donated because Blez was doing soemthing for A's fans that no other team had. Blez had costs, webspace, time he spent on this site. All that cost dollars from his pocket.
I wanted to keep what he had going ( I doubt any of you thinking im a troll donated)
But I didnt donate so Blez could turn this site into a money making venture, I donated so Blez would continue doing what he did and have a special place for A's fans above what everyone else had.
Blez is a talented guy, and I am sure when the other sites start and he gives hius advice they will do well. But I wanted Blez to focus on what was special for the A's and not sell out and give away the site I really like for free.
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 5:06 AM PST reply actions
exactly
by Cutthemullet on Jan 24, 2005 5:43 AM PST up reply actions
Sounds to me
So what's your price? How much does Blez owe you?
This post makes no sense
There is a logic gap. Can you expound a bit here?
WTF?
ok
Soon he will be selling his services like he already has for a Giants blog, and soon a Reds blog.
You all say "we dont pay for material"(because none of you were nice enough to donate)but it is backstabbing to create something great and special and unique to the A's then to sell it for money.
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 5:17 AM PST reply actions
Selling his services?
I would like to take this time to fully support Blez in his pursuit of a business and also to thank him for making this the best site on earth.
Foolish
Anyone who wants to start a website can look at the source code and see how he did it for free, so why pay him?
You act if Blez is the only person alive that can run a good website.
You dont think there are Reds, or Red Sox or Yankees fans who could do just as good a job, just you wait.
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 6:37 AM PST up reply actions
So fuckign explain!
ok
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 5:24 AM PST reply actions
ok
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
not true
by kat on Jan 24, 2005 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
You know...
Just trying to be helpful.
by secret ASian man on Jan 24, 2005 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Are you....
P.S. Thx for defending me. That was awesome. :)
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jan 24, 2005 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Anything for you Green
you're right.....
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jan 24, 2005 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
The code is free
by scoop @ Athletics Nation on Jan 24, 2005 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
Good for Blez
ok
He said his dream was to get paid for writing about the A's aka Mychael Urban. But how does he do that buy selling his website design?
And if you anything about website design is those companies do not make 100 million dollars
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 5:34 AM PST reply actions
How are we screwed over?
Your right Blez only cares bout money
An will soon no longer be unique or special.
Good job Blez
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 6:53 AM PST reply actions
Please tell me specifically what is lost
Knowledgeable, passionate A's fans posting? Check.
Free access? Check.
How are we being screwed?
by kaweahkaweah on Jan 24, 2005 6:56 AM PST up reply actions
Because it will no longer be Unique
It might be at the start but do fans want to buy a pre packaged look? NO. Fans of the Giants, and NY will want a unique feel and look.
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 6:58 AM PST up reply actions
I don't read this because it is unique
Sellout, to me, means compromising the quality for monetary gain. There is no sign of that happening, or that happening in the foreseable future. Besides, it's just the format that is spreading.
by kaweahkaweah on Jan 24, 2005 7:03 AM PST up reply actions
I could care less ...
-check that! ... make that every professional sports team!
I don't come here because its "unique"
I come here beacuse I want to see and share talk and ideas about the A's!
... and after thinking about it some ...
I hope EVERY team does get as good a blog site going ...
-that-a-ways whenever I want to check into something that is going on with another
team I would be able to get into what their true fans are thinking and
talking about ...
by Bleed Green on Jan 24, 2005 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
What?
And Blez needs to sell the A's fans favorite sight so a Clevland fan can get an interview?
Why do they need this format for an interview to happen
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 7:06 AM PST reply actions
They don't
ok
What makes me mad is in a month you will have 29 other An clones so what will be so great about AN? He used the interviews people game him because he ran a free fan site and parlayed that into a money making scheme
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
Ok
"He used the interviews people gave him because he ran a free fan site and parlayed that into a money making scheme"
What the hell does that mean?
"What makes me mad is in a month you will have 29 other AN clones so what will be so great about AN?"
The format is not what makes the site! What makes this site unique is Blez, and what he contributes. Not that Blez isn't funny, but some other guy running the Astros blog might be the funniest guy in the world, and that will make that site all the better. On the contrary, he might not get interviews with Tim Purpura and so on. ONE MORE TIME, THIS SITE IS NOT UNIQUE FOR THE FORMAT!!!!!!!!!!!
no
And no offense Blez doesnt di that great of interviews. What makes them good is who he interviews
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 7:24 AM PST up reply actions
ehh
by Cutthemullet on Jan 24, 2005 7:29 AM PST up reply actions
Disagree
Like the Riccardi interview, I wish he asked more questions about him, his life, and how be runs the Blue Jays. Instead almost every question was about what he thinks the A's are doing or what it liek to work with Billy Beane
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 7:31 AM PST up reply actions
Riccardi interview
by kent @ Athletics Nation on Jan 24, 2005 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
So
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
"Blez asked for imput"
Blez asked for questions, the other guy is the one who cose what was actually asked. He took like two of the questions that we suggested here. You were almost right though.
Spell Check
I'm not trying to defend him in any way, but it just seemed way too hypocritical.
by Furious George on Jan 24, 2005 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
It's Blez's baby
Clones
The A's get no respect for all they have done. AN was a great example of a way the A's fan can go to ANY other team and say look we do this better.
But because Blez wanted a buck he is allowing, no encouraging clones
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 7:18 AM PST reply actions
i second that
by Cutthemullet on Jan 24, 2005 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
Go For It Blez
- Great Diaries and discussion with intelligent A's fans
- Interviews, posts, etc. by Blez
by Roscoe Parrish on Jan 24, 2005 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
I can't sympathize with attacks on Blez
I developed a loyalty to AN, not entirely unlike the loyalty I've had for the A's since the early 70s. And when people diss the A's, I get upset. And now, when people diss Billy Beane, the guy who runs the A's, I get upset. From your comments, I believe we have that much in common.
Similarily, when I hear people diss Blez, the guy who runs AN, I get upset.
What's the point of the diary? Are you hoping to persuade all of AN to see Blez as a sellout? To boycott the site? To send Blez nasty emails?
Reading over and over again that Blez is a sellout who only cares about money makes me want to revisit Bambi's notion about voting on diaries.
I wrote this diary
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 7:54 AM PST reply actions
I hate feeding trolls...
Oh, wait...
See that "X" in the top right-hand corner? Give it a click, and all of your woes will disappear.
by Vic @ Athletics Nation on Jan 24, 2005 8:03 AM PST reply actions
Huh?
- Just cause someone has a diffrent opinion doesnt make them a troll.
- I have donated money but Im sure have not.
But if you spent the time to read the thread you would know that
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 8:06 AM PST up reply actions
Your entire posting history on AN...
This is the definition of trolling.
Get a life.
by Vic @ Athletics Nation on Jan 24, 2005 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
q
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Click the "next page" button...
Subsequent posts have been related to something called "baseball," a game played with a ball, bat, and gloves -- perhaps you've heard of it.
by Vic @ Athletics Nation on Jan 24, 2005 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
Your entire posting history on AN...
This is the definition of trolling.
by Parklife on Jan 24, 2005 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
You're right
But I have been a viewer of AN from the first month Blez started it
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
The Winters Getting to You All!!!
my 2 cents
by HMH Ron on Jan 24, 2005 8:12 AM PST reply actions
ok
But Blez hs asked for money just through donations.
And Thank You for all who donated to the AN site in the "pre-clone" days
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 8:16 AM PST reply actions
You
what makes it unique is the people and Blez, not the damn layout.
by kat on Jan 24, 2005 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
Who Gives a Shit?
Start your own website if you dislike this so much. Seriously.
Ok
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 8:23 AM PST reply actions
What really bothers me about your post is...
by JCase on Jan 24, 2005 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
Change is good...
I first checked this sight out because it was an A's sight. Yes, it is easy and smooth. I credit Blez for his techno abilities for that. But, I keep returning because of the rest of you and your opinions. In that respect everyone has their right to an opinion. Is the one about Blez selling out going to make me stop being here on a daily basis...NO...
So, thanks for your opinion and lets move on, shall we...
Gay marriage
Now, if you found out that Blez was going to personally work on 15 other web sites, and would be abandoning AN to go deal with other projects, then that would be a different matter. But you haven't argued that and you've presented no evidence for that. And Blez has a new daughter, so I doubt he'll be doing very much blogging anywhere for a while. So here's the question: how do sites with similar formats make AN a worse experience? Not, how does it impede your ability to taunt Mariners fans by saying, "Neener neener, our blog is better than yours." How does any of this make AN worse? Who the hell are you, Nelson?
As for your rights to speak, yes, you have a right to your opinion. But you might have noticed that there's only room for 10 diaries at a time on the home screen. That makes diary space a limited, shared resource. So we have to use that resource responsibly. If you actually have been lurking here for as long as you claim, I'm sure you're familiar with the "stop the Byrnes/Cameron diary" movement. You're not the first person to be told to think twice before posting the kind of diary they put up. I have the right to post 10 diaries in quick succession listing each of the opening day/night games I went to, and asking for comments. But if I did that, the whole diary listing would be my little reminiscences. I'm entitles to the memories, but not to suck up all the diary listing space to indulge my sense of their significance.
ok
As for the Gay marrage thing. On reason the right feels that way is because a lot of liberals feel that if it doesnt hurt us and out lives let them do it (Its a valid feeling we are entitled to our own) But we live in one huge community and I will use Eminem for example (personaly I like Eminem) If one parent feels that Eminem is not right for their child(which is ok they are the parents) we live in a nation where that kids 3 or 4 friends might expose that person to Eminem without the parents concent.
What does that have to do with Gay Marrige? Just my feeling that even though some people have an attitude that if it doesnt affect me who cares, what you do might affect people who do care.
But I can dicuss the whole gay marrage issue if anyone wants to IM me
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 8:40 AM PST reply actions
I wish Blez would sell out more
I'm glad he 'sold out'. The guy gets the best interviews with Beane and put together a great site (though the whole diaries scrolling off thing does need to be fixed). He should sell out more.
A site isn't about the look, it's about the people it attracts. A team isn't about the uniform, it's about the players and community. And the other 29 teams aren't going to have the 'same' site because their teams are way less interesting and lovable than the A's.
By the way these4things, if you don't want to be called a troll, don't act like one. Keep the personal attacks down. People have offered lots of good comments on yours and your response is always "it's my opinion that if other teams have our layout, then AN will suck". Is this a conversation?
This post might be a good test. If I get flamed and personally attacked, then these4things is a troll. If I get a reasonable response, maybe s/he is trying to have a conversation and is still getting the hang of it.
huh
" because their teams are way less interesting and lovable than the A's"
What a wierd thing to say
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 8:46 AM PST reply actions
double huh?
Is this mike on?
Having known many Giants fans, I think of them as generally good people with bad taste, not someone to maim in gangland warfare. And I'm glad they have a decent blog. As long as Blez doesn't stop getting us the exclusive interviews... I mean, who else would spend time begging Beane to stay? Reporters are too "objective" for that...
Sorry
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
Another 2 cents
Blez has every right to sell his "unique" layout to other people, but I frankly don't think it'll make their blogs anything like AN.
by OaktownTribesman on Jan 24, 2005 9:29 AM PST reply actions
CALM DOWN EVERYBODY!
I don't have an issue with your opinions. Everybody has the right to express their opinions. That being said, I have an issue of how you EXPRESS your opinions.
Slow down, and take a good look at your posts.
When you're done, loot at cutthemullet's posts. You two guys are saying the same thing, but the result is totally different.
Discussions with cutthemullet stay as civilized discussion and we remin to agree to disagree while you manage to rile up alot of AN in the wee hours of the morning, PST. I was asleep for 6 hours and I saw like 50 posts added between the hours of 3 AM to 9 AM.
Look at the vocabulary of your posts. You start out the gate attacking Blez almost personally. That is not cool, how would you like if if some guy in the middle of the night emailed you and said your dad was a piece of shit? You wouldn't. And neither would I.
Look the format of AN is not unique. Look at Sons of Sam Horn, a Red Sox Blog. The the blog the Shilling posted on to "talk" with the fans before signing with Boston. That's the same blog of which SI cut and posted pages of when they did a story of "drama of breaking the curse."
Blogs about baseball teams are not unique. The AN site was not unique to begin with because of help from Kos. However the AN community is unique, you, me , Blez and everbody who posts here is what makes this site special.
Now, I'm done.
Blez please say something, anything to rectify this.
by secret ASian man on Jan 24, 2005 9:40 AM PST reply actions
Wrong
If anyone was here back during the 2003-04 offseason this was a much diffrent page.
One that really only had Blez writing with no diaries.
That was that site that became popular so to say the diaries were it is dumb
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 9:45 AM PST reply actions
What you just said was dumb
Newbie
I want to hear from someone who remembers the old AN not you newbies.
Anyone that say the page back then knew it was Blez and only Blez who made the site great
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
I didnt say first one with a message board
Ok
Ill go away, send the money paypal to
Ohlone63@sbcglobal.net
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
These4thingsIknoware...
I know a couple of things though:
You keep referring to the fact that if there are 29 clones, this site is no longer unique. This would mean that every community of fans from every team is exactly like ours, every one of us (even you) has a clone who is exactly like us. What don't you understand?! The format is not what makes this unique! Thats why other people having it doesnt matter. I have a question. What do you think makes this site unique? From all your arguing, whats unique to you is the format.
I know that you are smoking from a bong 4 times a day.
I know you need to edit your posts.
I know that you will eventually understand what makes AN unique.
Admit it
Yea the A's fans are so great all 200 of them.
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Nothing is wrong...
wow.....
Look, when I first saw the site layout of the Giants blog, I was surprised. I didn't feel betrayed; I didn't feel bitter. I just felt- surprised. I knew Blez had an explanation for what happened and I accept it. I really think it's no big deal. Like a lot of people are saying, if you don't like it then don't continue being a part of this site. I'm sure lopayroll really didn't like this site. No one told him to get out.
Blez really deserves more for what he's given to all of us. He spends his own time on this website. He takes time after work to give us incredible interviews and a place to interqact with A's fans. I have learned so much from this website in the six or so months I've been here that it's awesome. I wouldn't have known half the stuff I know now if it wasn't for this site.
these4things- I know you're upset. I think all of AN knows you're upset. It's no reason to go trashing on Blez. Yeah, the layout was AN's design at first, but it's Blez's design. He can do with it whatever the hell he wants. You aren't going to stop him from selling his design. I say, power to Blez. It's crazy cool that you are making a profit out of doing something as enjoyable as making us loyal ANers happy. Thanks for the awesome blog (with the exception of trolls here and there which isn't your fault.)
Look at it this way. Other people, other fans now have something AN does. If they didn't totally love it, they wouldn't have bought it. It's incredibly hard not to love it. I love the layout. It attracted me to this website too. And like someone said earlier, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Hey,
by secret ASian man on Jan 24, 2005 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
umm......
It's a teacher workday because of finals last week. They get to grade them hahahah!
But I'm a little dissapointed to what i stayed home from school to. This diary is upsetting me.
Aren't you supposed to be at school?
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jan 24, 2005 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
Don't start class for another 40 minutes.
by secret ASian man on Jan 24, 2005 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
ahh...
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jan 24, 2005 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
He is right below
"have a right to voice their opinions because of the first commandment."
Dont you mean amendment not commandment
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
haha lol
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jan 24, 2005 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Don't pick on her
this whole string of dialogue:
man invites his "friends" over to his house. man says "i've got a way to make a few bucks, what do you think?" "friends" start raggin' on him with philosophical arguements about how and why he shouldn't make a few extra bucks. man tells "friends" to "screw off and get out of MY house".
this is blez's site, he invites us in, if you don't like it, weeeeeell...read the above again.
hilarious
But, hey, it's definitely funny.
The Irony...
by BootyBall05 on Jan 24, 2005 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
ouch....
I agree...
Blez owns this site. He can do whatever he wants with it. If you don't like it, tough shit.
You can:
1)Stop coming here.
2)Continue to come here and enjoy it.
3)Continue to come here and complain.
Once or twice I understand, but you're complaining ad nauseum.
What do you hope to accomplish?
We all get it, you think he's a sellout.
So select from choice #1 or #2, because #3 is making you seem like a whiner.
Jesus H
I mean, we're all A's fans and Blez is probably one of the best out there, and I for one would rather support anything he does then tear him down.
these4things: I do understand your frustration to some degree. I felt it when 2.0 came out....but you gotta know that posting 150 posts saying the same thing just isn't going to get anything done, you know?
Good luck Blez....wish I would've thought of it.
You're not a troll, just a moron
...Because you don't understand a simple concept: AN does not belong to you. It belongs to Blez. It's his venture, his time, and his money. He's not beholden to you or to me or to Billy Beane. He can do whatever the f*ck he wants with this site, and while we can grouse all we want about it, we can NOT exepct him to answer to us in any way.
Does Blez make you pay to be a part of this site? No. So you gave him a few bucks back in the OG AN days? Big deal. He already made good on your desire for him to maintain and improve the best A's fan site on the Internet.
Blez owes you nothing.
Read again
I never said he owes me anything, I never said I run the site.
Ill put this in bold
I WAS JUST SAYING HOW I DONT LIEK WHAT BLEZ IS DOING
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
If you don't like what blez is doing
But
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Ignore it
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jan 24, 2005 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
can you help Blez?
That would be very helpful!
-that-a-ways when I want to check into what the fans are up to with any team it would be easy!
by Bleed Green on Jan 24, 2005 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
From an idiot's post above...
These4things, now you've wasted too much of my time. Good luck with the English.
New rule
These4things, how old are you? Have you entered school yet? Blez' baby girl can write better than you. She was born a few days ago.
concept of "selling out" is lame
Whatever. I believe in evaluating things on their merits - and not care about what other people think or like.
by dude on Jan 24, 2005 9:56 AM PST reply actions
My two cents is:
The reason this blog works is because of the content. And, its got a nice design and makes it easy for people to post -- but that's not unique.
Blez redesigned this with the help of DailyKOS, I believe, so he was upgrading the quality of the site immeasureably.
If selling the design helps him, more power to him for his creativity and hard work. Why shouldn't he benefit? Better that than I have to pay him for the content. Which I will not do.
If you tour the blogs, every team has savvy fans; every team has Moneyball devotees. Every team has fans who have a special feeling for the A's because they are so unique.
None of that will change just because one of their bloggers has access to a better design for a blog.
Its the beauty of the internet -- and, incidentally, was Blez the first to add the word "Nation" to describe a team's fan base? I don't think so. Its what happens. The cream rises to the top.
Good luck, Blez.
by dingerpower on Jan 24, 2005 9:56 AM PST reply actions
Hmm...
Red Sox...Nation
Good Post.
by secret ASian man on Jan 24, 2005 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
congrats, blez
well, this is the first i've heard of blez selling anything related to this site. so, i'll just say congrats to him. from what i've heard, he's not selling the content (our words, his words, the words of his interviewees, etc), so i say kudos to you, blez. i LOVE this site, and if he found a way to get something more in return and not reduce the amount of content you and others put in, it doesn't affect me at all, and i'm happy for him.
to these4things, like others have said, it sounds to me like you are really bent out of shape about the wrong thing. the look of AN may now not be unique, but that is all he is selling. if it not LOOKING unique bothers you, you might consider hating all web sites.
by Eric in Atlanta on Jan 24, 2005 10:05 AM PST reply actions
Was worried there for a second...
Sounds ok to me. What is the big deal?
here
Blez is starting a group that will create designs, set up and manage diffrent teams sports blogs.
I dislike it because I liked AN because I think it as a one in a million site and soon other ones will pop as clones.
Could they be there anyway? Sure I just thought it was a sellout of Blez to do it for other teams for money
by these4thingsiknowaretru on Jan 24, 2005 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Reality check
by OaktownTribesman on Jan 24, 2005 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Congrats Blez!!!!
As long as your interest and passion does not wane from this site, I wish you all the best.
I second ..
Sold out? Who cares?
by Parklife on Jan 24, 2005 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
re: Special Blogs
It is the people and not the outline that makes a place so nice. I like AN, I'm not really going anywhere. Maybe to Barry Zito Forever, I really like BaZito!
me too.....
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jan 24, 2005 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
no clue
I have absolutely no problem with Blez benefitting financially from this (um, does anyone understand that the links to things like carpet cleaning and such are the same thing; by that I mean, there is probably some sort of financial benefit to Blez from there...whatever it is, and in whatever form it takes (wampum? beads for breats? dubloons?...doesn't matter)
I love the site; I love being able to skip something at work to read info about the A's...or, even re-read it, like i watch the same History Channel doc. several times..
if someone doesn't like it, they're free to express their opinions, and so, here's mine.
AN makes Blez money = fantastic
AN makes me happy = fantastic
Time=Money, and this site certainly takes time to put together; I'm all for it.
*just go eazy on me if it becomes a subscription site! :+)
Catfish
by catfish hunter on Jan 24, 2005 11:57 AM PST reply actions
ditto
AN makes me happy = fantastic"
If 29 other teams' fans can now also use the design to make themselves happy, more power to 'em! Unless there's some inherent evil about people having something to be happy about...
I think what Blez has done is great
agreed
Of couse my opinion will change if efforts are made to open my wallet up....
by Patrick on Jan 24, 2005 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Blez isn't exactly making a killing here
My only complaint is that Blez has created a site so attractive that it feeds my addiction and sucks up large amounts of my time, such that I'll probably lose my job and be found dead some day, emaciated and impoverished, slumped in front of a glowing green and gold screen.
Thanks Blez
In a way, this whole thing is like baseball itself. Just like this site(and all the other future 29 or whatever), each baseball team has a set format (# of players, same positions, etc.) but it is what the teams do with that format that makes them unique. That is why no other team is just like the A's and why no other blog will ever be just like Athetics Nation. Thanks Blez--love the site, keep it up. Now I feel better. Gads, Mondays suck enough as it is....
the way i see it
we are not blez's wife. we are not his newborn daughter. most of us are not his personal friends. we are not his boss, coworkers, or family members.
if he benefits off this site, so what? are you saying the thousands of sites with ads on them that aren't businesses are selling you out too?
let it go, it's the fucking internet.
CAn anyone explain the sell out comments?>
goddanm
-all this drama over a penny.
by ucla kid on Jan 24, 2005 2:44 PM PST reply actions
before I logged in...
Hahaha
How in god's name could all of you people let one trolls thread grow this insanely large? This will be my one and only post in this stupid thread.
I'm sure Blez can handle a diss from some random troll. No need for everyone to freak out about it.
by RichardP on Jan 24, 2005 4:03 PM PST reply actions
Screw Blez
Thank you Kos, for ridding me of my own personal Monday menace and helping me to restore my sanity.
by LD on Jan 24, 2005 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
El Blez
by Roscoe Parrish on Jan 24, 2005 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Glad you think that
by GreenNGoldGirl on Jan 24, 2005 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Me?
by Roscoe Parrish on Jan 25, 2005 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
Congrats Blez
by bayfrank on Jan 24, 2005 5:52 PM PST reply actions

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