Dan Patrick reporting Huddy Traded

by Kelly on Dec 9, 2004 12:39 PM PST Comment 85 comments

He's reportedly close to being shipped to St. Louis, though I'm not sure who is involved. I've yet to find any Internet sources on this - just that Dan Patrick said on ESPN radio that it's "close."

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Are you kidding me

IF this is true, we better be getting some hitting. If its Dan Haren, Kiko Calero, and their best young hitter whos in triple A, then this is not so bad. I still would have preferred Giles, but i mean i guess not...

Beanetown Baby

by ohad on Dec 9, 2004 12:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

No Top 50

The cardinals do not have a single offensive prospect in the top fifty. (1 pitcher Wainwright)

by JSCHWAN on Dec 9, 2004 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The only names I've heard are pitchers

Marquis, Suppan, and/or Haren.

Chicks dig Moneyball.

by Kelly on Dec 9, 2004 12:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The rumor

Hudson to STL, Giles to OAK, Haren & Suppan to ATL. That's the rumor on the internet boards, anyway (MLB's & ESPN's). But this makes no sense, in that the meetings haven't really even started yet, and Pedro & Pavano haven't signed yet. Once those 2 are gone, our market is much more clear & defined, and teams will be bidding against each other for Hudson only. Does not sound like Beane at all to make a deal right away, without leveraging clubs against one another by waiting, even if only for a few days. So, I for one don't believe this one.

by sign arenas on Dec 9, 2004 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Forgot to mention

Why wouldn't ATL just deal Giles for Hudson and keep him for themselves? Just doesn't make any sense.

by sign arenas on Dec 9, 2004 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

if it's the equivalent of Giles for Huddy

Beane could have done it already.

and Giles is not enough. the a's would need starting pitching also.

by OaklandSi on Dec 9, 2004 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If thats the case

I think we may as well try and steal Kiko Calero from the cards....

Beanetown Baby

by ohad on Dec 9, 2004 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If Jocketty can get this done

He is a hero in St Louis, even more so than he is now. They have got to be the national league favorites for the NLCS title this year. And the thing is, this is close to Huddys home. They made the WS. I think he extends with them. I think part of this must have been the fact that BB wanted to give Huddy a good place to go..

Beanetown Baby

by ohad on Dec 9, 2004 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Giles is legit

And I'll be excited to get him, but we need something else in addition to him in exchange for Huddy.

by Tony on Dec 9, 2004 12:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

When is Giles a free agent

When is Giles a free agent? Will Oakland lose him after the 2005 season to free agency?

I like the extra bat in the A's line up but I have to admit I kinda liked the deal Hudson for Polonco and Myers. OH well we will see what happens.

by CDN Athletics Fan on Dec 9, 2004 12:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The A's would have Giles' rights

through the '07 season. Also, we couldn't have traded for Polanco. He's a free agent.

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by nothinlikethetown on Dec 9, 2004 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Giles Contract

Wouldn't they only have him through 2006? I'd like to see his contract.

by nhayhoe on Dec 9, 2004 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He just finished his third year

He has no contract, he's a 4th year arbi case - we'll extend him for 3 years, 2.5, 4, 5.5.

Relax alright don't try to strike everyone out. Strikeouts are boring besides that they're fascist. Throw some ground balls it's more democratic.

by devo on Dec 9, 2004 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

trade makes no sense!!!

everyone wants hudson, billy'd make them all bid against each other to get the best package if he was even going to deal huddy anyway, right? this sounds like a rumor, not a legit beane move...waaay too early to make this deal.

by guy incognito on Dec 9, 2004 12:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

It seems a little too early for Beane to pull the trigger on this...

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

by secret ASian man on Dec 9, 2004 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Can't believe it

According to Ken Rosenthal too and Dan Patrick they are close.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=MLB&id=6245

Take it for what's worth.

by onestepahead on Dec 9, 2004 12:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

HUDDY'S PHYSICAL DURABILITY

If BB really moves Huddy, it has to be a calculated thought that Huddy's physical problems caused because of the huge amount of torque the guy has to exert to pitch puts him at greater risk than Mulder/Zito . . .

He could be right. It will be interesting to see how long Huddy remains an ace. I could see helping STL win a championship then fading into mediocrity.

Also, could Huddy's ultimatum have been a move to spur a trade so he could get an extension set before he potentially injures himself again this year?

by Josh on Dec 9, 2004 1:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Huddy

How can you put Huddy and mediocre in the same sentance? The guy has a .600 winning percentage. He wins on determination alone some nights. He has all of the intangables that make a great ace type pitcher, except for being a bit short.

Long live Huddy and Joe Morgan.

He HATE Me

by Misfit on Dec 9, 2004 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Long live Huddy

but Joe Morgan can go to hell.

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by nothinlikethetown on Dec 9, 2004 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I believe I said . . .

"fad[e] into mediocrity."

It's right up there. You can see for yourself.

The reality is that every player is going to tail off as he gets older. Because Huddy weighs a buck-fifty, he has to push his body more than other pitchers. This could have led to his problems the past couple years and could cut his career short.

by Josh on Dec 9, 2004 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

winning %

lol actually its .700 winning percentage..damn they better get someone good out of this

by AsFan4Life on Dec 9, 2004 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm having mixed feelings.

Huddy gone? It feels like someone shot my dog. But Huddy to STL? Whoo! Just down I-70!

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 1:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

kumbayah

sob

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm needing hugs.

I can't work now.

Heavy drinking, here we come.

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I feel so lonely

lots of meds today.

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn't ready.

It's too close to Christmas for this tragedy!

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

what makes this worse

is that it now appears to have been a false alarm.

But we know he's going to be traded anyway...

no more false alarms!!!!!!!

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

When I heard it on the radio

it sounded legit to me. I guess they're backing off now. Sorry for all the heart attacks I've caused in the past hour!

Chicks dig Moneyball.

by Kelly on Dec 9, 2004 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I heard it too

so it's not your fault.

It's Dan Patrick's fault.

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Now I know...

what the words "Huddy traded" feel like. I'll be ready the next time.

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

whatever

If this happens again tomorrow, I'll still be bouncing off the walls.

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Bluto said it best

"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily."

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by nothinlikethetown on Dec 9, 2004 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Jennifer's dog

You have a cute dog. What's its name?

by kent on Dec 9, 2004 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

sniff

My dog's name is Huddy. =(

Just teasing. His name is Oz.

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

That gave me a good laugh.

Beanetown Baby

by ohad on Dec 9, 2004 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

ahhh..

if this is true... i'm staying away from baseball until the season starts. :-(

by ucla kid on Dec 9, 2004 1:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I don't want to jump the gun

but if the report comes out tomorrow and we got Dan Haren and Kiko Calero, I'm gonna be pissed. I don't see BB doing that, but the possiblity is killing me. Pleeeeeease tell me we didn't get two mediocre pitchers for Huddy. Tell me there's a third team or we get half our payroll subsidized or something! They don't have any prospects worth trading for. Someone explain this to me, tell me its not true, or buy me a drink.

Today's broadcast is brought to you by..........Christ, I can't find it. The hell with it.

by nothinlikethetown on Dec 9, 2004 1:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

exactly

billy wants to win in 2005 and long term...getting mediocre pitchers does neither...if it's a trade w/ the cards, a third team must be involved.

by guy incognito on Dec 9, 2004 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You can come...

drinking with Sharon and I tonight. It's fish bowl margarita night at my local Mexican joint. You just have to get here by seven. And you have to put up with us crying and our waiters calling my "Senorita Lopez." We may be too drunk to care.

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Mexican Place???

In MO? Is it at least decent?

Fishbowl Margaritas... sonds good.

Pitcher of Margaritas for cheap at Pablitos in Hayward...better

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

by secret ASian man on Dec 9, 2004 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It's damn good.

I'm not going to explain why it's good because it would make me sound like a horrible person.

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I've always been a fan of

La Pinata. I go to the ones in San Leandro and Alameda, but I think there's one in Hayward too.

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by nothinlikethetown on Dec 9, 2004 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

La Pinata

I love La P. Except for the one in Hayward, the food's been getting worse and worse troughout the years and starting about 2 and a half years ago I started getting sick whenever I ate the chicken.

All the other La P's (Alameda, SL, Newark, Fremont) are awesome, food's good (but I don't know why they include burgers on the menu it's a MEXICAN place) and there a full tequila bar.

The Alameda one is clearly the best.

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

by secret ASian man on Dec 9, 2004 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It great

because its open until 3 am. Its the perfect spot to go sober up after a long night.

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by nothinlikethetown on Dec 9, 2004 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Or

just eat some hella good Mexican food when you're fucked up.

by Tony on Dec 9, 2004 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

Pablitos is open 24 hrs Fridays and Saturdays, also a great place to get sober (or drunker).

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

by secret ASian man on Dec 9, 2004 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Gordo's

Gordo's burritos are the best dude.

Beanetown Baby

by ohad on Dec 9, 2004 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yes

Gordo is the greatest. Super boiled chicken with guacamole and sour cream and hot sauce amigo!

by Reg on Dec 9, 2004 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it's official!

The end of the world is upon us!!!!!!

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

no deal is official

just the end of the world.

didn't want to confuse anyone.

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

My heart stopped.

And I dropped my drink. Damn you!

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

things like this happen when a person drinks

I can no longer be held responsible for the things I write.

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i think jennifer and sharon...

are two HOT chicks just looking for an excuse to party and get hammered.

i know i enjoy reading your dialogue...

i think i'm just going to throw out "huddy was just traded!!!!!!!!!!" and watch you two go at it.

it's OK to steal-just don't let billy see ya.

by bigelephant on Dec 9, 2004 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Woah buddy...

Remember, this is the internet and we may not be as we seem. I mean, despite my moniker I might be a meek white guy who likes to sip port and listen to the lieder of Franz Schubert.

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

by secret ASian man on Dec 9, 2004 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

very nice!

it's OK to steal-just don't let billy see ya.

by bigelephant on Dec 9, 2004 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Very true.

I have to pay people to be my friends.

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

How much do you pay?

I'm always looking to make a couple extra bucks.

by grover on Dec 9, 2004 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It depends.

We have a few options.

The Fall Guy/Gal (Deluxe Package) - Basically, this plan is designed to make me look good (which is a really difficult job, hence having to pay). If I stick my foot in my mouth, it is this person's job to distract everyone else. For instance, I say something stupid, the Fall Guy/Gal and I exchange hand signals, and the Fall Guy/Gal, we'll call this person Ryan, blurts out predetermined phrases. A popular choice is, "I like brownies," and "I like to wear ladies underwear on my head while singing Prince songs." I leave it up to the Fall Guy/Gal, though. The pay is based on the responses given and how I feel after. We have a smiley face poster like hospitals to measure my emotional pain. Pay is determined accordingly.
The basic package. This one is a simple plan to make me feel good. The "friend" and I shop together, go to the movies together, and play with paper dolls, for example. The "friend" is also required to send me various gifts for special occasions and phone calls are required daily. Again, the Emotional Pain Scale is used to determine pay.

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

paper dolls

I'm up for that.

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm certainly qualified for the job

Ptu me in a situation were only one thing could screw up the deal and I'll say exactly the magic words. What kind of benefits do you offer and do you cover expenses? Movies ticket can add up.

by grover on Dec 9, 2004 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, all expenses are covered.

I have dental and health insurance, and the "friend" gets use of the company car. There are no holidays and the "friend" usually has to work weekends. It's tough job.

by Jennifer on Dec 9, 2004 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Can my gf come along?

I'm quite talented at acting the idiot.

Relax alright don't try to strike everyone out. Strikeouts are boring besides that they're fascist. Throw some ground balls it's more democratic.

by devo on Dec 10, 2004 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

where?

by Tony on Dec 9, 2004 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Why wouldn't Beane wait?

He's got a perfect opportunity to let the market come to him.

by grover on Dec 9, 2004 1:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

ohhhh...sneaky focker

by Tony on Dec 9, 2004 1:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'm soooo sorry, Tony!

I feel like an idiot.

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You're not the idiot

I'm the one that said a movie line from, like, 5 years ago. And then threw "like" into a sentence and made sure I surrounded it w/ the proper grammar. (CA born and raised obviously)

by Tony on Dec 9, 2004 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it's so funny

b/c as soon as I hit post I was cursing myself.

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

would beane trade huddy for crappy pitchers?

plzzzzzzzzz noooooooooooooooo.........Man being an A's fan is rough..what kills me is our team is in the bayarea and schott owns fricken some chainstore, yet were a small market...fricken annoying

by oakwin2004 on Dec 9, 2004 1:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

No cards

CHeck out that rotoworld site again, above.

It now says no deal with the cards is imminent.

by nathan. on Dec 9, 2004 1:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

HEre it is...

Cardinals officials are now telling TSN's Ken Rosenthal that no Tim Hudson deal is imminent.
It looks like the Orioles and maybe the Braves and Indians are still in the running. Rosenthal also mentions the Phillies, Dodgers, Red Sox, Mets and Yankees as other potential suitors for Hudson. No AL West teams are viewed as candidates because it's assumed the A's won't trade Hudson within the division.
Source: FOXSports.com

by nathan. on Dec 9, 2004 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

BEane will play them all

I wouldn't be surprised if Huddy doesn't get traded this weekend. As I've said before, it has to be a monster deal or why let him go?

by OaklandSi on Dec 9, 2004 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Marquis isn't crap

If Marquis is included with Calero, that's a damn good deal...Marquis is a solid replacement for Huddy...and much cheaper.

Let's Go Oak-Land!

by Colorado Fan on Dec 9, 2004 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Everyone is knocking on Billy's Door

"Cardinals officials are now telling TSN's Ken Rosenthal that no Tim Hudson deal is imminent.
It looks like the Orioles and maybe the Braves and Indians are still in the running. Rosenthal also mentions the Phillies, Dodgers, Red Sox, Mets and Yankees as other potential suitors for Hudson. No AL West teams are viewed as candidates because it's assumed the A's won't trade Hudson within the division."

Sounds like Billy will be a little busy this weekend.

Let's Go Oak-Land!

by Colorado Fan on Dec 9, 2004 1:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

So, we're exactly where we were this A.M.

Which is better than where we were about 1 hr ago...but still not ideal

by Tony on Dec 9, 2004 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

except

now I hate Dan Patrick :)

by Sharon on Dec 9, 2004 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The Cards

If we deal with the cards, we should have them throw in Ankiel as a freebee. If the A's can straighten on Ankiel, we'll have three dominating lefties, Marquis and Colero. I just hope Ankiel is salvagable.

Joe Morgan Rulz - He HATE Me

by Misfit on Dec 9, 2004 2:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs