Boston now a frontrunner?

by Kelly on Dec 14, 2004 6:31 PM PST Comment 18 comments

Eesh. This is just up and down and all over the place.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=fanball-athleticshudsoncente&prov=fanball&type=lgns

Maybe the Boston package is Youkilis and Arroyo. But where would we play Youkilis? Isn't he a 3B/OF?

I know this trade talk is tiring but I can't seem to stay away... :-P

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Nothing new here

They're just guessing, and I think some of the ideas around here have more merit.

Beane likes Youkilis, but he LOVES Hudson.

by grover on Dec 14, 2004 6:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

youkilis

isn't worth hudson. and anyway, billy always seems to get his people (i.e. D, Cust) when they are low-profile players. but, this is the first i've heard of theo and co. in a rumor.

by ucla kid on Dec 14, 2004 6:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

can play DH. Hell maybe even LF considering Byrnes plays there with his wacky-I-dont-know-how-to-take angles-so-I-take-weird-ones-which-may-or-may-not-end up-in-alley-but-at-least-the-fans-cheer-when-i-get- one.

by suggy on Dec 14, 2004 6:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Boston

We need more than Youkilis and Arroyo for Hudson.

by boatshoes on Dec 14, 2004 6:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Boston

i heard that Hanley Ramirez was included in the package too.

by sonoma06 on Dec 14, 2004 6:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Better if they threw in Man-ley Ramirez

I REALLY cannot picture Beane dealing Hudson to Boston. NL -- likely. A non-competitive AL team -- likely. But to Boston, the Evil Empire Part Deux? Why would he do that?

Kevin Youklis isn't good enough to unseat Bill Mueller at 3B, Bronson Arroyo's cornrows are a joke, and we don't need no stinking Hanleys.

Unless Boston gives us Manny and offers to cover 70% of his salary for the remainder of his contract, I'd tell Boston to go bark up Matt Clement's tree.

by Uncle Charlie on Dec 14, 2004 6:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

hah

Amen brutha.

"obsessive" is what lazy people call the "dedicated"

by Beanecounter on Dec 14, 2004 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

I think Beane would if Boston had the right talent, but they don't. Hanley Ramirez/Youkalis and Arroyo for Hudson? I don't think so.

by dchu on Dec 14, 2004 7:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Boston trade partner..

I believe the idea that the Boston would get AJ Burnett from Florida for Arroyo and then trade Burnett and Youkalis or H. Ramirez to the A's. This way the Sox get Hudson, Florida saves money and gets a #3 kind of pitcher and the A's get a cheaper starter ($4 million in Arb.) and a young player for the future. Maybe Beane spins Ramirez to the Dodgers or the Jays but that is the general idea.

Burnett is a good but sometimes injured pitcher that if he is a free agent at the end of the year gives the A's another 2 draft picks.

As for not dealing with the Sox, (or for that matter the Yanks) think of it as this. The Sox are going to get good players just by having the Money. Beane is probably thinking he can get involved in a deal with them a get better or not and maybe suffer. The Sox and the Yanks are not going to stop if the do not get Hudson they will just move on to a Johnson or Sheets. If you help to drain the Sox minors they may become a small Yanks; a team with no minors that spends for everyone.

Just a thought.

by dougald1 on Dec 14, 2004 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If

we were going to lose a pitcher at the end of the season (Burnett) why wouldn't we just keep Hudson.

My seatbelt is broken. What do you suggest I do?

by Diesel on Dec 14, 2004 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Two reasons

Reason one for deal is money, A's save about 2.5 million

Reason two the A's get a extra player in Ramirez or someone that will be here for a few years.

These are both important to Beane

by dougald1 on Dec 14, 2004 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

2.5 M

You don't trade Hudson for Burnett to save $2.5M. I actually like Burnett, but if we did it, we'd better be getting a lot more than just him.

by jubjub on Dec 14, 2004 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Problem with that deal

Where is the pitcher that the A's can then develope into a starter for the next 5-6 years? Burnett fills the hole created by Hudson's departure but Ramirez doesn't help Oakland and the bullpen still needs to be addressed.

by grover on Dec 14, 2004 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Deal Ramirez

If Ramirez is the second player behind Burnett then maybe he is moved to LA or Atlanta or ... for a young pitcher. Ramirez is the Sox best prospect or maybe it would be one of Boston's good AA arms.

The main point is that it gives the A's a good pitcher this year and other stuff, be it a young ss or pitcher.

by dougald1 on Dec 14, 2004 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd puke

By no I'm sort of jaded enough to accept a Hudson trade if it happens, but if Hudson is traded to the Blo Sux of all teams, I think I'm going to puke. After the 2003 ALDS it'd be like adding insult to injury. I'd rather see Barry Bonds in Green and Gold than Tim Hudson in a Sux uniform (and that's saying alot).

by OaktownTribesman on Dec 14, 2004 7:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs